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rs05d
03-28-2007, 06:54 PM
Hey everyone, I found this forum last night and have been reading everyone's stories since. It is just good to know that there are others who have had similar experiences. I find my stutter to be by far the most difficult aspect of my otherwise great life. I have been trying for about a year to take that seemingly giant leap and come out of that stuttering closet but I find the simple thought of doing that excruciating. I become dizzy, my heart pounds, and I get sweaty. I hope that this forum will serve as a kind of first step. Anyway, here's my looong story (I really need to get some stuff out, and the anonymity of the internet will hopefully make that possible).

I am almost 21 years old and am a student at Florida State University. I have an interesting stuttering history, like all of you I guess. I first started stuttering when I was in kindergarten. I stuttered terribly but it did not seem to mind me at all. My parents, even though split up, were always supportive of my problem. They set up stuttering help at my school and also at a clinic for a few years and by 5th grade it was completely gone. I had total and complete fluency. I loved giving presentations, reading for the class, and was busting with self-confidence. I was always the smartest in my grade, but I took great pride in being able to express that intelligence verbally. I would give ANYTHING and pay any amount of money to be able to go back and regain this speaking form, as this fluency did not last long.

I moved to a new school and changed households late in my 6th grade year and it was here when I started to make negative process with my speaking. I was placed in the gifted program and we often had to read books allowed and give presentations. I managed to get by but I noticed it becoming extremely difficult. It is here when I gained my patented "hesitated, uumm, you know" technique to cope with the stuttering. From this point on I was never able to do read or speak in front of a group of people again without hesitating or beginning sentences with umm/you know. I also started just speaking less in general and not being my once expressive self.

So here I am now, 20 years old and am having the same problems I had at 13 but no one knows about it. My stuttering is feast or famine. It is not noticable in most situations, but in situations where it is it really is. I have a fair amount of friends and I can communicate with them without anyone taking note. I mean, they even sometimes make fun of stutterers in my presence, and I know they would never do that if they even thought I had a stutter. I can talk on the phone with friends and people I know fine, and I can also speak alright on the phone if I'm answering (I uhh and you know quite a bit, but so do a lot of people I guess so they don't notice). On the other hand, if I have to call someone I do not know or even call to place I food order I become irrationally nervous and have a severe lock-up so I just avoid it now. I can go through a drive-thru and place an order with relative normalcy but have a hard time saying 3 words over the phone.

My biggest concern right now is that every undergraduate student has to take a public speaking course to graduate. There is no chance that I could make it through that in my current phase as giving presentations, public reading, and speeches are situations that make me go from "semi-normal, unnoticeable stutter guy of few words" to "wow, he can't say his name guy of one word every 4 seconds". I also have a hard time speaking with people in a higher position than myself so being taken serious by employers is going to be difficult as well.

I have a couple of great sources of hope though, and one of those is my mother. She was a stutterer all through school and told me a story when I was younger about how she put off her college speech class until her senior year because she just could not do it. In high school when she was called upon to read she stuttered terribly. If you look at her today though, no one would ever know she had such a bad stuttering problem. She is a nationally respected educator who gives speeches and hosts seminars for hundreds of people many times a year. I'm not sure how she overcame her problem because I am afraid to ask, but she is an incredible woman and gives me hope that stuttering CAN be overcome. I know that I could come out to her and she would understand, but I am just too embarrassed and the issue has become much bigger in my mind than it really is because I have put it off for so long. My other source of hope is the younger version of me. I believe that I was able to overcome my stuttering when I was younger because it was out in the open and I was comfortable with my problem. I did not hide it and everyone knew that I was a stutterer. I was in a comfort zone and it quickly went away. Once I was taken out of my comfort zone and began the avoidance behavior the stuttering came back and has since stuck. I hope that re-finding this comfort zone will allow me to again overcome stuttering.

I am really considering going to the university clinic for a little help as FSU has a great department of communication disorders. The only problem is there is no e-mail address, only a phone number :p . This has me questioning the logic of the people in charge over there, but maybe I'll write a letter or something. If anyone has made their stuttering problem public knowledge or made those difficult steps in seeking help I would definitely like to hear how you went about doing that. I am ashamed to admit that I am trying to seek counseling and payment options that I can take care of without anyone knowing.

Finally, I must say that all of you have stories that touch me. NO ONE deserves to stutter as it is one of the more embarrassing and debilitating problems anyone will ever have to deal with. People with normal fluency take their position for granted every day. Stuttering seems to be one of the few "disabilities" that most people are not particularly compassionate about. Sometimes the exact opposite is true and I hate that fact.

Thanks for gritting it and making it through my way too long post!

jak
03-28-2007, 10:24 PM
hey :D welcome

Standingtall
03-28-2007, 10:39 PM
I guess we can let you get away with such a long post, rso5d. :D Welcome and good to have you aboard. Looking forward in what you have to share with us. Sounds like you have an excellent role model.

JDRow
03-28-2007, 11:54 PM
Welcome.

I am really considering going to the university clinic for a little help as FSU has a great department of communication disorders. The only problem is there is no e-mail address, only a phone number . This has me questioning the logic of the people in charge over there, but maybe I'll write a letter or something. If anyone has made their stuttering problem public knowledge or made those difficult steps in seeking help I would definitely like to hear how you went about doing that. I am ashamed to admit that I am trying to seek counseling and payment options that I can take care of without anyone knowing.

I don't have experience with doing that, but I do understand what you're going through. I have been considering going to the clinic at my university, and came across the same issue with them only giving a phone number. Considering that every other office on campus I've ever had to contact has had an e-mail, it seems very strange and it also made me wonder about the clinic. I wouldn't say that it's at all public knowledge because I don't talk much, but I stutter severely so anyone I talk to is aware of it, and I still find it very difficult to ever talk about. I don't use the phone at all, so I've been thinking of asking my sister to call the clinic for me, and even though she's fully aware that I stutter and would be completely supportive about therapy, and has even mentioned it to me in the past, I can't seem to get to where I can bring it up to her. I can relate to how difficult it is.

rs05d
03-29-2007, 12:21 AM
JDRow, isn't it illogical for us to be afraid of talking to people about our stuttering who would completely understand and help any way they can? I have gone to my mom with the full intention of sitting down with her to discuss my problem, but every time the moment comes I push it aside out of fear. There is really nothing to be afraid of except for hurt pride which is apparently a strong deterrent. I can't even muster up enough courage to e-mail her about it.

I have noticed the same thing you have in regards to the e-mail situation. Every single department at the university has a multitude of e-mail addresses except the center for speech disabilities. It really makes no sense at all and is a fairly annoying.

Hans
03-29-2007, 08:45 AM
rsO5d
My biggest hurdle for a long time was accepting myself, the way I was. The non-acceptance I thought I saw in other's faces was really my own, reflected back at me. I've learned to believe that I deserve to be loved and valued. No one will love me more than I love myself.

Marrow
03-29-2007, 04:12 PM
Hey rso5d welcome to the forum.

I'm in my 3rd year at Uni and i ended up seeing someone at my university about my sutter for a few times in my first year.

Basically on the Uni entrance form (form you have to fill out before you go to university) i wrote i had a stutter in the disability section. Thought it was better to get it out in the open sraight away, and it made things alot easier.

In most of the departments at my university they have a disabilities tutor. I am studying geography and they assign each tutor to about 6/7 students in the first year. Seeing i had wrote that i have a disability they made sure that my tutor was also the disabilities tutor. After most tutorial sessions which were once a week he used to keep me behind and ask me if i had any problems, how the course was going etc. I mentioned i was having some problems with presentations and he sent me to an assesment centre to get my stutter assessed which was on campus. Then i went to disabilities centre a few times to talk over my stutter with someone, but it wasnt like speech therapy. From what i can remember it was just making sure i could cope with the course and if there were any problems.

I think there was an option to get some speech therapy but i turned it down. Think at the time i could'nt be bothered. I'd had some speech thearapy when i was about 9/10 but i can't really remember if it worked or not. Having said this getting thearapy could benifit you as every individual is different.

I'dadvise going to see the department of communication disorders (dcd) at FSU. If you know where the department is maybe you can go along in person as for me i find it easier to talk to someone face to face then over the phone. Other than that you could maybe go to your course department (which ever subject you study) and ask if they could contact the dcd on your behalf.

As for making my stutter public knowledge, when i meet new people ill generally stutter straight away so its obvious. Theres nothing wrong with getting help and you shouldn't be ashamed about having councelling. If people judge you for this then thats their problem and they obviusly havent grown up at all.

Hope this helps,

Nick

3FingerBrown
03-29-2007, 05:34 PM
Welcome to the forum RS05D,
Sounds to me like you already know what you have to do...
Avoidance behaviors can only be dealt with by facing them head on.
Seeking counseling and talking to your mother are both great ideas and solid places to start.
Might I suggest seeking out an NSA chapter self help group where you can speak to other people who stutter as well.

Your embarrassment and sense of shame are nothing to be ashamed about.
Shame isn't the sense that you have done anything wrong, its the feeling that you yourself are wrong.
If you face your avoidance behaviors you can eventually overcome your anxieties.
If stuttering doesn't make you neurotic than you were probably already crazy to begin with.
I also suggest looking into cognitive behavioral therapy to help you understand and deal with your altered perceptions and beliefs about yourself.
You don’t need to share all your darkest deepest secrets but I would tell your friends and new people that you meet that you have a stutter. Advertising it kills the giant blinking pink and green elephant in the room and puts you at greater ease.

You know what you can do, you just need to believe it.
And there was no gritting involved in reading your post. Your insight and sense of hope are commendable and I can see that you are serious in wanting to find a way to help yourself.
You are not alone and we understand what you are going through.
The secret to expanding comfort zones is to never lay back and be comfortable. If you aren’t challenging yourself and sticking your neck out then you aren’t extending your comfort zones. I very much look forward to reading your input in this forum and being here to support you on your journey.
I never talked to my mother about my stutter when I was younger and when I did as an adult it was too late, her attitudes and beliefs were already solidified and you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
If I were you I’d talk to your mom. If you can’t start the conversation eyeball to eyeball then start with an email, tell her what you told us.
Thank you for sharing,
Ari

jcalm
04-01-2007, 04:12 AM
People with normal fluency take their position for granted every day.

Well said here. I admire them and I envy them. But I know everyone in the world has their own issues and problems and stuttering is happen to be one of ours:o. Just be strong and be positive:)

divisi
04-01-2007, 10:11 PM
I enjoyed a lot your introductory post, rs05d! Welcome to the forum. If I were you, I'd try to get rid of that supposed pride, and talk directly to your mother, face to face.