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hans76
04-16-2007, 07:35 AM
Hi all,

Great site you all have going here and its so nice to have a place to interact with other people who have the same issues!

Well, I guess this is the intro section, so I will give you all an intro to me (LONG)!

I have stuttered most of my life, starting from about age 5 I recall. My sister stutters as well unfortunately. She is 3 years my junior. The place I grew up in didnt really have any real speech pathologists back in the day, so as such, I never got any therapy. Just the usual, slow down, calm down and then speak, and other sayings from my parents. They really did mean well, but unfortunately those suggestions probably just further entrenched the stuttering for me. My stuttering was and does consist mainly of repetition style, with rarely any blocks as such, so you could say I had a mild to moderate stutter.

High school had its good times, but the bad times did outnumber the good ones. I remember the times in class when we has to read out chapters loud in class. Like other forum members, I used to scan ahead and try and figure out where I would have to read so I could rehe! That didnt work when the teacher picked randomly of course. I remember the sweats before I had to speak, the pain when I stuttered on the words in Shakespeare, the few snickers in the classroom, and the sheer terror I felt in class and at home days before a presentation.

These events made me become, understandably, very withdrawn and anti social, even though I loved meeting new people and socializing. I was so ashamed and guilty of my stuttering, I didnt even discuss it much with my parents, or talk about how I really felt about my stutter.

Over the years my stuttering came and went in phases, I cant pin point when I had greater fluency though. Suprisingly through university, I didnt stutter as much and made it through my presentations without much problems (though the anxiety and tension were always there), and I only stuttered a bit around certain people, some close friends, go figure!

I recall one really painful incident when I went to an admin office in university to renew my meal plan, and the officer asked me my name. At that time I had a little problem with my name. So when she asked me what my name was, I said its spelt H-A-N-S. Then she asked me how do you pronounce that. I replied saying different people say it a bit differently! How lame eh? Then she asked how would I introduce myself, so then I just stuttered and said it. I felt mortified after that incident and was depressed for a while after.

Other things I noticed was I tended to stutter a bit more around figures of authority, but I stuttered very little if any around girls! Indeed I dated some very attractive (and a few gorgeous) women over the years and barely stuttered around them!

Well, during uni and shortly after graduating, I battled depression and got involved heavily in drinking and some drugs as an esacpe mechanism. Wrong I know, but at that time I couldnt deal with it. Everyday was a struggle, thinking about how I would talk and get through the day, deal with ordering certain items like coffee, what people would think of me, consumed me. When I graduated I took up crappy jobs when I could have done so much better with my degree.. but I was held back by my stuttering. Drinking and drugs provided a great escape, although just temporarily.
My eating habits became poor as well, and my health suffered for many years.



I always had ambition to make it big, but stuttering really held me back. As a result of my poor jobs, I had to depend on my parents 2-3 years after graduating for helping me out with some expenses and with rent. It felt awful. I was capable of so much more but this damn stuttering had destroyed my spirit. To add to my depression all around me I saw younger guys, and my classmates, doing so much better than me in fantastic jobs. While I was stuck in these crappy jobs trying to make ends meet. Trying to get through each day without stuttering. Trying daily to subsitute words. Trying daily to avoid situations where I had to speak to a group or strangers. I was so sick of it all, sick of not being able to speak fluently. And all these negative emotions were making me into a depressed and bitter person. I even think of not having any kids or adopting them to avoid having my kids go through anything near what I went through.

Finally after about 3 years after graduating I left the country to go to a new place to try and start fresh. I settled down in the new city and decided to start my own business with my brother. Its now been three years and I have yet to seriously do a proper week of prospecting new customers. The reason? My fear of talking on the phone and stuttering, and also my fear of getting rejected outright (no interest in our products). Over the years I have become really fearful of rejection due to my stuttering and past experiences.

My brother has kept the business afloat with his work but now I have finally had a major breakdown. I am sick of all this and sick of stuttering ruling and ruining my life. I want to oercome the fear, the shame, guilt, and not miss out on my life. I am so tired of it all and really I want to start fresh and make a positive change to my life, I want to forget the past hurtful experiences, how I long to just be somewhat normal and worry about normal things people worry about other than how am I going to say the word coffee today?! I want to achieve in this life, I want to make a good living for myself and my wife and possibly future family, I really at times feel I have been robbed in this life, though I am most thankful that all God has given me and the good times I have had as well.

I just turned 30 this year and recently got married last year to a wonderful woman.

Well, thats all for now, and thanks to all those who read my post. It feels like a ton of bricks being lifted from my back.

My heart goes out to all those dealing with their stutter.

Hans

Standingtall
04-16-2007, 03:34 PM
You sure are not shy with that long post. You can usually tell a lot about a person, from their writing. Good to meet you and looking forward in what you have to share with the rest of us.

Hans
04-21-2007, 01:21 PM
From one Hans to another: Maybe being a Hans gives us so much to say? Great to meet you.

floraleffects
04-22-2007, 09:37 PM
Hello there...

U know wut? While i was reading ur post i felt like i was reading wut i wanted 2 say .. more or less ... i used 2 be an overachiever till high school .. helped by the fact that i skilfully n with quite talent hid my stuttering ... i can say that i led a normal life except for the few occasions where i had one of those bad stuttering days or when i decide 2 leave my room n interact with ppl in my parents' presence n they start staring n lookin 4 words i stutter in 2 show signs of resentment ... u know ppl don't really understand stuttering .. i haven't met another stutterer myself till this day ... u can understand that but results can be quite devastating...

Anyway... i had 2 leave the country for university .. n there where my crisis started .. i was alone so i had 2 do everything alone ... i made it through first semester with a top-on-the class cuz i never left home n anything required talking i didn't do ... next semester and 4 5 years later i drastically dropped 2 a B minus n never really recovered, i had 2 face ppl with my stutter cuz i no longer had the privilege of 'hiding' .. i lost a 20 kilograms and still counting and and all forms of health damage ... but i didn't do drugs ... n know sth ... i went to a therapist that damaged me further cuz all wut i felt all through was am a 'disabled person' .. u know i can go on and on about how that destructed my spirit .. 5 years now n i am still broken ... it's really sad that saying the word 'coffee' cd damage u 4 the rest of the day ... but know wut ... u see almost every other problem as trivial n u can handle it a lot better than non stutterers...

long post, huh? sorry .. i like 2 'talk' lol

3FingerBrown
04-23-2007, 04:37 PM
Hans76,
Sorry that I didn't see this sooner.
Very pleased to greet you, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post and can relate to a lot of what you have said.
Congratulations on getting married!!! I can see how the prospect of providing for a family has made getting by the way you have been not good enough any longer.

One piece of advice with your friends… I too was very ashamed after I graduated university and thought it would be easier to not see my friends rather than have them feel sorry for or ashamed of me for not sharing in their successes.
Living in same apartment? Yup
Seeing anyone? No
Anything good going on professionally? No…
If you don’t answer the phone, eventually even friends stop calling, don’t let yourself repeat my mistakes.
Have you discussed your stutters with your stuttering sister?

Its really nice to read an introductory post such as yours, as Gene said you can tell a lot about someone from their writing.
I see that you are in New York and if the new city you refer to is NYC or is anywhere near NYC I belong to an NSA (National Stuttering Association) which meets twice a month in Manhattan. PM me if you want more details, it’s a great bunch of adult PWS and my membership has really been a cathartic experience for me.

Question, as a newlywed have you discussed any of this with your wife? I’m sure she knows that you stutter but does she know how much pain and fear it causes you?

Happy that you found us,
Ari

hans76
06-30-2007, 02:52 PM
Hey everyone, Im back! Had to go off on some urgent business and very slow net there so was cut off.. anyways, just got back gonna rest a bit, then post once i get up :)

Thanks for all your kind messages!

hans76
06-30-2007, 03:01 PM
And about your questions Ari, no we dont discuss it much (me and sis or me and my wife). I stutter very little in front of my wife, but come on she knows i do, but we havent talked about it really.. and recently she has been on my case to get out there more, drum up more business.. but I dont think she knows the real reason I feared calling pple is because of the stutter and not because I am not hard working or lazy etc.. :(

timitao
07-01-2007, 07:56 PM
i don't mean to pry, but you will cause yourseld more pain but not being open about reasons why. And if you can't be open to your wife, well who can you be open to.

I just know how it feels to not explain completly the whole truth to ppl, and now i don't give a f...
it's a funny thing aswel, the more honest u r with someone the more they appreciate it.

But hey thats just my opinion.

Pennywise
07-02-2007, 09:26 PM
hi Hans....i understand how you feel.....evidentially reasons ;)

stuttering has no sense! and i think it is the capital problem....you know, something like 'stuttering' is, ruin and lead on our life.

Dianne
07-03-2007, 07:09 AM
Guess a stutter is more of a 'disadvantage' than a 'disability'.To me it was/is both and the only thing that affects me is the fact that I stutter-not if it is called a 'disabliity' or not.