Trying to understand Cho Seung-hui

[sydney]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-hui

What do stutterer's think of Cho from what we "know" about him?

[minnatrix]

It seems everybody's been interested in it lately. Everybody's been saying how much of an "evil" crazed madman he was. But in the wake of this, I couldn't help but think, "What was it that caused him to become insane?" And the answer for that is obvious, he's been bullied and tortured ever since he was small and I can't help it but to have compassion for him and hate the ones that did this to him. To me, he's both the victim and the killer.

[happy7117]

Perhaps being bullied and teased made him snap. But I would be terrified to meet him. Killing the amount of people the article said would make anyone terrified of him..

In a way, we might feel bad for him because of his nasty childhood, but on another hand, what he did is sick and insane...

That might be cause for the death penalty....

Sort of had mixed thoughts...he's nuts, but the reasons that lead him to be nuts make one feel bad for him...

[jcalm]

I do agree that bullied and teased made him snap. One thing I don't really understand though, why didn't he move elsewhere after graduated from high school? Instead he went to VA Tech along with all the people that bullied him during high school. In an article about people made fun of him about his accent when his teacher made him read out loud in class, but in the video he sent to NBC, his english was excellent. I suspected that the people who bullied him during high school continue to bullying him in VA Tech. I bet no one there for him when he needed it. No one there to cheer him up. When a person is pissed off and alone, crazy thoughts usually build up. As a result, this is what happened. After all this years, this is his revenge.

[happy7117]

Holding intense feelings of anger, sadness, and shame will make one go nuts. That's what he did. He went nuts as punishment to everyone who was cruel to him....

As you said, his murder spree is how he got back at everyone who wronged him.....

But on the other hand, he might get the gas chamber or lethal injection for those multiple killings....

If one of us met up with him, would we try to sympathise with him, or stay clear of him out of fear for our lives???? Again, I don't know....

Maybe he was not feeling accepted as he should have been...

An embittered person enacting revenge-that's him.

[minnatrix]

I think us stutterers can sorta relate to being bullied and made fun of. I mean look at where it got a lot of us. A lot of us stutterers on here are depressed.

[JDRow]

I don't think anybody being bullied is okay, but I don't think it explains something like this. Millions of people are bullied and only a few do things like this. I think if somebody is violent and crazy enough to do something like this, they would have done it whether they were bullied or not.

And in retrospect you can probably always find a time, for most people, when somebody made fun of them, and say, "Look, they were bullied." But, almost everybody gets made fun of about something at some point. I think that the idea that somebody was bullied then turns around and enacts their insane revenge makes for a story that's easy to understand, but I'm not sure it does anything to explain a situation like this, because so many people have been bullied--in many cases probably a lot worse than he was--and don't do anything like this.

[Standingtall]

I'm no expert, but to my understanding it is difficult to diagnose mental illness. I have been bullied too and a few times I snapped and kicked some butt. Almost right away I felt remorse, but not enough to take my own life. I have felt rage, but I still had control. I don't know what will push me over the edge and I hope I never find out. I don't think I will ever understand mental illness or even think of how many people are hanging on by a shoestring. I know I feel real sad for everyone involved, because there are many fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, friends affected by the whole incident. Many lives have changed. RIP to the fallen.

[3FingerBrown]

I'm sorry but there is no excuse for killing 32 people and then yourself.
It does sound to me like he had emotional and psychiatric problems but I can't excuse anyone for doing such a thing.
There is never a viable excuse for killing.
There is evil and good in all of us, he chose to take the actions he did and he is responible for his own actions.
Did he get all the help he could and should have gotten? Probably not.
Is this an excuse? HELL NO!!!
Sociologists have shown that we are all capable of both good and evil, he chose evil.

Just a note too... the news coverage of his manifesto and video disgusts me beyond belief. They gave him exactly what he wanted and did nothing to help us understand him. All the coverage and the making of excuses for his behavior only serves to justify his actions making it that much easier for the next 'loner' to follow in his footsteps.

[jcalm]

The video was useless I agree. He didn't explain anything about why he did it except acting like Osama Bin Laden. If I was Cho, I would explain everything, about the abuse, the bullying...etc I would want people to see myself as a victim too.

[AMANS]

I think the video had been cut off. Some people in the government don't want we to hear the Cho's explanations.

[jcalm]

I bet. We have the sociality to blame about the event and by editing the Cho's video, they made Cho as the bad guy and that way the government and Bush don't have to explain or make any changes to his so-called country called United States.

[3FingerBrown]

Since when does Bush work for NBC and how is a murderer of 32 people not a bad guy?
I really can't believe what I'm reading here.

They shouldn't have shown any of the video period. They should not be glorifying or humanizing this murderer.
i couldn't care less about his "explanations".

You want to blame Bush for something, take your pick...
John Ashcroft
Alberto Gonzalez
signing statements
Valerie Plame
Iraq (and ONLY 32 dead in Iraq is a good day)
WMD (or the lack thereof)
"Response" to Katrina
torture
secret prisons
renditions
Guantanamo bay
wiretaps
Harriet Myers
Walter Reed
Troops being sent to war without armor
politicizing and deprofessionalizing all government agencies
Karl Rove
haliburton
trampling of the constitution
loss of checks and balances

Thats just off the top of my head.

[AMANS]

No doubt Cho is a crazy and cruel murderer.

I’m not sure whether Bush works for NBC or not but I suspect him being in some intimate relations with NBC government body. They declared that Cho adopted Islam and had been raped when he was a child. He is a crazy violent murderer but not a raped Islamic terrorist! By editing the video they distorted the truth. They should show the original video and let everybody decide what to think and what is more important let everybody know what made Cho perpetrate this massacre.

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