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springgrove
06-15-2005, 11:40 AM
How many of you write with your left hand ?
what age are you
How many of you were made to switch from left to right hand to write with ?
what age are you
llw03c
06-18-2005, 02:40 AM
i'm left handed
hello :)
i've been stuttering since around age 10 (i'm 23 now)...i (for some stupid reason) did try to switch to left hand from right hand when i was around 10...
you think this makes a lot of sense or it's just coincidence? :confused:
alok daga
08-10-2005, 12:08 PM
i am left handed...i dont remember being forced to switch to use my right hand but i remember my elder brother keeping me locked for hours in the bat for not studying. i used to cry for hours and many times wake up getting nightmares...
So far I have only seen one speech therapist once. He's some professional specialist from UK. He told me a common theory (and I know there are loads) is that, while non stutterers only have one side of their brain responsible for speech/ communication, stutterers have both left and right brains responsible. That is, during some course in their lives some bit of the part responsible for speech/ communication has moved to the other side of the brain. So it's not about being right or left handed, it's a matter of confusion between the right and left brain. Does this ring a bell to anyone? It does to me (about switching hands, see my post above).
KENcer
09-27-2005, 02:51 AM
So far I have only seen one speech therapist once. He's some professional specialist from UK. He told me a common theory (and I know there are loads) is that, while non stutterers only have one side of their brain responsible for speech/ communication, stutterers have both left and right brains responsible. That is, during some course in their lives some bit of the part responsible for speech/ communication has moved to the other side of the brain. So it's not about being right or left handed, it's a matter of confusion between the right and left brain. Does this ring a bell to anyone? It does to me (about switching hands, see my post above).
not sure about that...but i did see a speech therapist when i was around 10-11 years old(im 29 now)..she told me to speak slowly and all..does work on and off..there are times i can speak properly..and there i times i stutter frequently...its very unpredictable.
i was forced by some teachers when i was around 7-8 years old to write with my right hand..but i would switch to my left and after a while they would stop and accept that i am a lefty..
people used to laugh at me alot...these days its not so bad...almost all my friends are understanding...some of them even try to help me out..so thats cool..but still..you do get the occasional s here and there from strangers and such..and even then i just brush it aside..guess im quite used to it
Andrew
09-27-2005, 03:20 AM
I'm 18 and always have been right handed. However, my stuttering problem isnt as bad as some... authough its bad enough to make me depressed.
Dug23
11-11-2005, 11:54 PM
Im left handed for writing but right handed for sports like tennis etc... I think my brain is very confused as i have no real left or right dominance... :o
Vermillion
11-12-2005, 12:06 AM
I'm left handed but use right hand for everything else (sports)
Dug23
11-12-2005, 12:14 AM
hehe snap :D
Standingtall
11-14-2005, 03:07 PM
I'm 39, and I write with my right, but I'm pretty good on my left. I could do and a few things even better on my left but I still throw like a girl on my left. I'm left eye dominant. My girls are stuttering, and they keep switching from left to right.
I know I'm dragging up a very old thread : however I thought it might be something worth some thought.
I'm autistic - specifically a high functioning autistic, Aspergers Syndrome, with a very, very bad stutter.
I have absolutely no dominance with either hand - I'm entirely ambidexterous, with exception to writing (too many people make the mistake of believing ambidexterousity is the ability to write with either hand - it's just practice). As it was previously mentioned in this thread, the power of speech is dealt with by one side of the brain - and each side of your body is controlled by a part of the opposite side of the brain - and when the brains bias is "wonky" - is something giving way?
I just think that there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Stuttering is often hereditary - if your parent(s) have one, you have something like a 20% more chance of having/getting one yourself. This implies a genetic, therefore physical reason for it.
Unfortunately, a common symptom of AS is a very logical mind, tempting one to think very black and white. Perhaps I'm thinking too b&w in this instance, however is anyone else thinking "hang on, why isn't this being looked into?"
Looking at people who suffer more when stressed, in a state of non-relaxation - although you might think of these as emotional states, they also have a physical effect - tenseness, breathlessness etc. I'd be happy saying outright, that *it is not in the mind* - it's a physical condition that can be lessened.
Standingtall
11-23-2006, 06:09 PM
I have been to Vulcan and have learned to be logical at times, but my klingon upbringing puts common sense on the back burner.
I can a lot with either hand and depending on the task, one hand does it better. How many people see pictures in your head.
sign543
11-24-2006, 07:03 PM
I am a 36-year-old stutterer and I am left-handed. I was forced to write with my right hand in elementary school and, as a result, I am ambidexterous.
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 07:03 PM
Do you ever read your posts once they have been written? Because that line really makes me laugh and laugh and laugh.........
I was hoping you would catch it, old man. :D
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 07:07 PM
I am a 36-year-old stutterer and I am left-handed. I was forced to write with my right hand in elementary school and, as a result, I am ambidexterous.
Interesting, my wife is the same way, she is left handed, but was forced to write right handed. The world was not ready for the lefty's then, how the world has changed now.
sign543
11-24-2006, 07:26 PM
Interesting, my wife is the same way, she is left handed, but was forced to write right handed. The world was not ready for the lefty's then, how the world has changed now.
What's also interesting for me is that I have medical writer's cramp and essential tremor. The writer's cramp is only in my left hand, however, and results in being almost physically unable to write after about 2 lines. I make jarring and sporadic jerks with the pen, making the writing look unreadable. (the common use of the term "writer's cramp" means that your hand hurts after writing a lot. That's not really writer's cramp...that's just getting cramped up after writing for a long time :)
I do not have this condition with my right hand, for some reason. But...my right hand shakes a lot more than my left. Essential tremor is sort of the opposite of Parkinson's, in that the tremor happens when attempting to something...rather than at rest. Threading a needle is impossible and I cannot drink with my right hand, as I've nearly thrown coffee directly in my face.
It's a neurological condition and I wonder if it's related to stuttering?
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 07:32 PM
What's also interesting for me is that I have medical writer's cramp and essential tremor. The writer's cramp is only in my left hand, however, and results in being almost physically unable to write after about 2 lines. I make jarring and sporadic jerks with the pen, making the writing look unreadable. (the common use of the term "writer's cramp" means that your hand hurts after writing a lot. That's not really writer's cramp...that's just getting cramped up after writing for a long time :)
I do not have this condition with my right hand, for some reason. But...my right hand shakes a lot more than my left. Essential tremor is sort of the opposite of Parkinson's, in that the tremor happens when attempting to something...rather than at rest. Threading a needle is impossible and I cannot drink with my right hand, as I've nearly thrown coffee directly in my face.
It's a neurological condition and I wonder if it's related to stuttering?
Interesting, I get cramps in my right hand after writing a sentence or two. I hold my cup of coffee on my left hand, or glass of Rikard's. I don't get the shakes, but my hand does cramp up that I have to stop and rub my hand or shake the cramp away.
sign543
11-24-2006, 07:36 PM
Interesting, I get cramps in my right hand after writing a sentence or two. I hold my cup of coffee on my left hand, or glass of Rikard's. I don't get the shakes, but my hand does cramp up that I have to stop and rub my hand or shake the cramp away.
That sounds very much like medical writer's cramp. If it can be debilitating, you might visit a neurologist.
I've always envied people who can write smoothly and write a lot. I enjoy "journals" and have a large collection of them...I just like how they look. Almost all of them, however, only have 1 or 2 entries. Filling out applications and long forms is particularly nasty for me.
Well, enough about me. Let's talk about you. How do YOU feel about me? *laugh* Just kidding.
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 07:42 PM
That sounds very much like medical writer's cramp. If it can be debilitating, you might visit a neurologist.
I've always envied people who can write smoothly and write a lot. I enjoy "journals" and have a large collection of them...I just like how they look. Almost all of them, however, only have 1 or 2 entries. Filling out applications and long forms is particularly nasty for me.
Well, enough about me. Let's talk about you. How do YOU feel about me? *laugh* Just kidding.
I wished I started an journal when i was young, just to go back and reread what I was thinking back then. I took drafting in technical college and I was re-trained to print and that pretty much started my cramps. People say I have very neat hand writing. I like you fine, you got soul. :D
sign543
11-24-2006, 07:46 PM
I wished I started an journal when i was young, just to go back and reread what I was thinking back then. I took drafting in technical college and I was re-trained to print and that pretty much started my cramps. People say I have very neat hand writing. I like you fine, you got soul. :D
Thanks. :) You, as well.
Ah, then probably no writer's cramp. Perhaps you just tense up too much while writing.
Even if I loosen my grip, trying to "un-tense" while writing, it gets worse. The sporadic jerks get worse and I can't write anymore. Very frustrating. Which is why I keep a blog. As a result, I type over 90 words a minute.
In class (undergrad and law school) I either use a laptop for notes...or a recorder.
I'm glad I was born in these more modern times, because I can't imagine having to take long essay exams without a computer! :)
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 08:10 PM
Thanks. :) You, as well.
Ah, then probably no writer's cramp. Perhaps you just tense up too much while writing.
Even if I loosen my grip, trying to "un-tense" while writing, it gets worse. The sporadic jerks get worse and I can't write anymore. Very frustrating. Which is why I keep a blog. As a result, I type over 90 words a minute.
In class (undergrad and law school) I either use a laptop for notes...or a recorder.
I'm glad I was born in these more modern times, because I can't imagine having to take long essay exams without a computer! :)
Your welcome.
I remember those essay exams back in high school. That is about 20 years ago, you would think my hands would get use to writing. You can type faster than I can, do you find it hard to keep up what your mind is saying to write your trying to type. I take notes in meetings, but point form and expand on them when I get back into the office on the computer. I personally haven't tried the recorder.
sign543
11-24-2006, 08:25 PM
Your welcome.
I remember those essay exams back in high school. That is about 20 years ago, you would think my hands would get use to writing. You can type faster than I can, do you find it hard to keep up what your mind is saying to write your trying to type.
We sound around the same age. I'm 36. No, I have no problem matching my thinking with my typing. I usually have the entire thought in my head...what I intend to say...then I type it out, trying to phrase it in the best way.
I'm an aspiring novelist, so writing is very enjoyable to me. I love words. I enjoy trying to find the very best way to say a thing.
For example, instead of saying, "The man in the blue coat quickly jumped off the porch and ran to his car so he could find his missing daughter,"...
...I might write, "Realizing that his panic was rapidly closing in with all of the claustrophobic feel of being wrapped in a mattress, Robert barely touched the ground as he leapt from his front porch to his Suburban. Jillian was only twenty minutes late, but the confused and jumbled cryptic cell phone message she had left only three minutes earlier spoke more of danger than of irresponsible teenage behavior."
I doubt I'll ever be professionally published, but the process is great fun. :) By trade, I'm a freelance ad and copywriter for law firms, doctors, and other companies. I currently write for a health supplement company. Not as exciting as fiction...but it pays the bills :)
What do you do?
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 08:40 PM
We sound around the same age. I'm 36. No, I have no problem matching my thinking with my typing. I usually have the entire thought in my head...what I intend to say...then I type it out, trying to phrase it in the best way.
I'm an aspiring novelist, so writing is very enjoyable to me. I love words. I enjoy trying to find the very best way to say a thing.
For example, instead of saying, "The man in the blue coat quickly jumped off the porch and ran to his car so he could find his missing daughter,"...
...I might write, "Realizing that his panic was rapidly closing in with all of the claustrophobic feel of being wrapped in a mattress, Robert barely touched the ground as he leapt from his front porch to his Suburban. Jillian was only twenty minutes late, but the confused and jumbled cryptic cell phone message she had left only three minutes earlier spoke more of danger than of irresponsible teenage behavior."
I doubt I'll ever be professionally published, but the process is great fun. :) By trade, I'm a freelance ad and copywriter for law firms, doctors, and other companies. I currently write for a health supplement company. Not as exciting as fiction...but it pays the bills :)
What do you do?
I have about 4 years on you. I'm an foresty technician, have been in this field since I graduate from High school, over 20 years now. That is where I learn how to print, in Forestry and never erase anything your write down. I enjoy the outdoors and there is less people out in the sticks, but mother nature has her way of keeping you on your toes.
I use to read a lot of books by many different authors. I even owned most of the hardy boys books when i was young and even have a few Nancy Drew. I was a hugh Stephane King reader and Tom Clancy. If you ever publish an book, I will sure read it. You already made that short story interesting, so what happen.
sign543
11-24-2006, 09:13 PM
I have about 4 years on you. I'm an foresty technician, have been in this field since I graduate from High school, over 20 years now. That is where I learn how to print, in Forestry and never erase anything your write down. I enjoy the outdoors and there is less people out in the sticks, but mother nature has her way of keeping you on your toes.
My step-dad is into the forestry service in some capacity in New Mexico, I think. He's been doing that all his life, as well. You must enjoy it. :)
I use to read a lot of books by many different authors. I even owned most of the hardy boys books when i was young and even have a few Nancy Drew. I was a hugh Stephane King reader and Tom Clancy.
Stephen King is my all-time favorite author...I also love Pat Conroy. Tom Clancy is good, but I've only read one of his books.
If you ever publish an book, I will sure read it. You already made that short story interesting, so what happen.
Thank you! I appreciate that.
Hmm. What happens....
Robert fumbled for his keys and started the engine of the Suburban, tearing out of the yard, sending dust and pebbles showering the rapidly retreating front lawn. He checked his cell phone again, hoping against hope that he'd missed a call from her, one where she would leave a voice mail message saying that she was fine and that the broken message was just the result of a bad connection.
He imagined how they would laugh about how silly and neurotic he was to have panicked so quickly. "Oh, Dad," she would say, laughing in that shrilly way that could only be the result of her mother's genes, as she had laughed the exact same way, though the two had never met. Margaret, his late wife, had died during childbirth and Jillian represented the sole piece of empirical evidence, aside from photos, that a woman named Margaret Baxter had once lived and changed the life of one Robert T. Collins from Blackshear, Georgia.
The phone registered no missed calls and he swore beneath his breath before turning, tires screaming, onto the main road that led to town ten miles away.
"If he lays one hand on her, I'll kill the sonuva," he growled, glancing in his rear-view mirror for the familiar sight of cruiser lights. Camino Road was well known for being heavily monitored by the local highway patrol and he fully expected a trooper to emerge from a side road at any moment, looming behind dark glasses and a wide-brimmed hat. His luck held out. No cruiser. He quickly checked his cell phone again, but felt stupid for doing so. The damn thing was right on the seat. If she had called, he would have heard it.
Except he knew that wasn't true. Often in this part of the county, the reception was bad; hence, a person could call you and even leave an entire voice message while you were banished to the land of "no signal". Once you emerged on the other side, reception bars stacked and blazing, you'd find that your in-box contained a voice message...but your phone would register no missed calls.
Okay, I have no idea what happens next...*laugh*...but you've given me an idea for a short story! Maybe I'll post it here after it's done. :)
Standingtall
11-24-2006, 09:26 PM
Wow, you got me hooked.
I though it was one of those careers where i didn't have to deal with the public, but I was soon proven wrong. I had to do a lot of talking of short wave radio's.
I use to buy the new Stepehn Kings books when they first came out. Tom Clancy was a harder to get into, he is very technical, but once his books started to get into the movies, I lost interest. I started to compare book and movie. The wife bought me last christmas the Lord of the Rings books and I have been trying to get into them. shouldn't have seen the movies first.
sign543
11-24-2006, 10:49 PM
Wow, you got me hooked.
I though it was one of those careers where i didn't have to deal with the public, but I was soon proven wrong. I had to do a lot of talking of short wave radio's.
I always try to get jobs where I don't have to use the phone much. Hard to find. My last job, director of corporate communications, required much writing and a fair amount of answering my phone. Not too bad.
My freelance writing suits me well in that capacity. :)
I use to buy the new Stepehn Kings books when they first came out.
His books are trending towards more introspective...I think he's nearly run the gamut of gore/horror. We'll see. I love his writing style. I have to be careful not to emulate it too much. <g>
Tom Clancy was a harder to get into, he is very technical, but once his books started to get into the movies, I lost interest. I started to compare book and movie. The wife bought me last christmas the Lord of the Rings books and I have been trying to get into them. shouldn't have seen the movies first.
I am one of the few who never even wanted to read the books. I am not a fan of fantasy or sf. I like stories that are set in our world, where things are familiar. I don't like having to imagine places that are...hard to imagine.
The films were fantastic. :)
Standingtall
11-29-2006, 04:14 PM
I always try to get jobs where I don't have to use the phone much. Hard to find. My last job, director of corporate communications, required much writing and a fair amount of answering my phone. Not too bad.
My freelance writing suits me well in that capacity. :)
His books are trending towards more introspective...I think he's nearly run the gamut of gore/horror. We'll see. I love his writing style. I have to be careful not to emulate it too much. <g>
I am one of the few who never even wanted to read the books. I am not a fan of fantasy or sf. I like stories that are set in our world, where things are familiar. I don't like having to imagine places that are...hard to imagine.
The films were fantastic. :)
I love to imagine things, get lost with the pictures in my head when I read a good book. I don't write, but I do sketch or draw ramdom stuff on a pad. I love film also, I can watch most of them.
In forestry, I had to take and pass an radio operator's exam, to get my certificate. I did pass, but only used the short wave radio when I had too. I had the most difficult time with my call sign, like UL630 to Ranger110.
Good luck on that new story idea. :D
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