Why should mild stutterers be visiting this forum???

[happy7117]

I would think this forum is for those stutterers who want to express what they normaly cannot express outside or outside the forum.

I mean light stutterers. Do you feel you don't need this forum because you are able to express easily what you want without needed this forum to do so???

Moderate or mild stutterers. Do you consider yourself able to express yourself easily even though you stutter mediumly or mildly....???

My point is, I would think this forum is for hard-core stutterers who need an outlet for their expression that they otherwise cannot get when talking to someone.

If I can't express myself at all in the real-world which is very true, I come here to say what I want.

[emily445455]

This makes me sad :( My mild stutters affects me tremendously. It keeps me from talking to people, it keeps me from doing things, it keeps me from speaking up in class, it keeps me from a lot of things...and I cry a lot because of it.

Personally, I think stutters affect people in different ways. I have a mild stutter and am so ashamed of myself and the way I talk. I know a very severe stutterer who is totally fine with it. It depends on the person, not the severity IMO.

So, needless to say, forums and chats are ways for me to express myself I feel like I can't in real life.

[happy7117]

This makes me sad :( My mild stutters affects me tremendously. It keeps me from talking to people, it keeps me from doing things, it keeps me from speaking up in class, it keeps me from a lot of things...and I cry a lot because of it.

Personally, I think stutters affect people in different ways. I have a mild stutter and am so ashamed of myself and the way I talk. I know a very severe stutterer who is totally fine with it. It depends on the person, not the severity IMO.

So, needless to say, forums and chats are ways for me to express myself I feel like I can't in real life.

I think this is where the word irony comes in! It's the opposite of what one expects to happen happens.

For example: a person gets saved by a bad guy.

Your post is ironic because you hate mild stuttering. I would be totaly glad and relieved to have mild stuttering though.

Now having very severe stuttering which is what I have: that would put you through living hell!!!!

For the person who does not mind severe stuttering: that's ironic because I would expect a person to totaly hate being to barely get words out.

I would think a mild stutterer would be gratefull for the less stuttering they have as compared to severe stutterers.

You may hate mild stuttering, but on the flipside be GRATEFULL you are mild!!

Stuttering severely is no fun for me.

I don't how anyone with a severe stutter can take it as no problem.

I know I can't!!!

Be gratefull for some stuttering Emily.

My point, I would trade places with the mild stuttering you have in a heartbeat!!

But I would not want you to have my nasty stuttering because it might make you feel like crap.

Then again, if mild stuttering makes you upset, severe stuttering might make you less upset. Irony!

[happy7117]

[QUOTE=happy7117;20811]I think this is where the word irony comes in! It's the opposite of what one expects to happen happens.

For example: a person gets saved by a bad guy.

Your post is ironic because you hate mild stuttering. I would be totaly glad and relieved to have mild stuttering though.

Now having very severe stuttering which is what I have: that would put you through living hell!!!!

For the person who does not mind severe stuttering: that's ironic because I would expect a person to totaly hate being able to barely get words out.

I would think a mild stutterer would be gratefull for the less stuttering they have as compared to severe stutterers.

You may hate mild stuttering, but on the flipside be GRATEFULL you are mild!!

Stuttering severely is no fun for me.

I don't know how anyone with a severe stutter can take it as no problem.

I know I can't!!!

Be gratefull for some stuttering Emily.

My point, I would trade places with the mild stuttering you have in a heartbeat!!

But I would not want you to have my nasty stuttering because it might make you feel like crap.

Then again, if mild stuttering makes you upset, severe stuttering might make you less upset. Irony!

[emily445455]

Oh believe me, I am VERY thankful my stutter is mild. I don't know what I would do if it was severe...:(

I was just making the point that no matter how mild a stutter is, it still can and does affect the person in drastic ways.

[happy7117]

[QUOTE=happy7117;20811]I think this is where the word irony comes in! It's the opposite of what one expects to happen happens.

For example: a person gets saved by a bad guy.

Your post is ironic because you hate mild stuttering. I would be totaly glad and relieved to have mild stuttering though.

Now having very severe stuttering which is what I have: that would put you through living hell!!!!

For the person who does not mind severe stuttering: that's ironic because I would expect a person to totaly hate being able to barely get words out.

I would think a mild stutterer would be gratefull for the less stuttering they have as compared to severe stutterers.

You may hate mild stuttering, but on the flipside be GRATEFULL you are mild!!

Stuttering severely is no fun for me.

I don't know how anyone with a severe stutter can take it as no problem.

I know I can't!!!

Be gratefull for some stuttering Emily.

My point, I would trade places with the mild stuttering you have in a heartbeat!!

But I would not want you to have my nasty stuttering because it might make you feel like crap.

Then again, if mild stuttering makes you upset, severe stuttering might make you less upset. Irony!

I apoligize for that double post. I meant to edit my post, but it said I did not type enough lines or something. I don't know what happened.

My point...this forum has a few faults::

1. We can't edit our posts after 5 minutes

2. We cannot delete an accidental post....

[happy7117]

Oh believe me, I am VERY thankful my stutter is mild. I don't know what I would do if it was severe...:(

I was just making the point that no matter how mild a stutter is, it still can and does affect the person in drastic ways.

I think I know what your saying. Any degree of stuttering is painfull.

But I guess it's the amount of stuttering that affects how painful a person can feel.

Believe me, you would be in hell if you had severe stuttering.

I don't know how I manage to not go berzerk with my nasty stuttering!!!

It takes nerves of steel to put up with it.

Over time, those nerves get tired and worn down.

Have not reached that point yet!

[andrewg818]

Anything can be viewed in ANY way.
Those who stutter midly in some situations and severely in others --gripe that their stutter is too unpredictable--they get fooled by fluency..and they're depressed by being 2 different people; others in that predicament are incredibly thankful for the fluency they have.. The question is --it's a cliche--but which way do YOU choose to look at the glass? Some situational stutterers tell severe stutterers that at least the severe ones know what to expect/it's predictable...
When I was about a year into overcoming stuttering, I met 2 different people-- One was a closet stutterer who had no visible sign of stuttering-- people in his life didn't even know about it.. Another stuttered SEVERELY on virutally every word-- everyone in his life knew. The closet st. lived in FEAR, anxiety, hating himself--- keeping a secret, stressing- -the overt, severe guy--had a job, hjouse, wife, kids--and was loving life and free.
I knew I'd rather be more like the free/ overt guy-- but that I could also do so while being fluent.

[Daniel]

My point is, I would think this forum is for hard-core stutterers who need an outlet for their expression that they otherwise cannot get when talking to someone.
If that is the true purpose of this forum, then I apologise for signing up. Once i receive affirmation, I'll ask my membership be removed, no questions asked.

[emily445455]

Daniel- I don't think anyone else feels that way. :) Are you a mild stutterer also?

Andrewg- Good point about getting fooled by good fluency for awhile and them BAM! can't talk at all, stutter on almost every word. I used to be a closet stutterer, and had the same emotions you described: fear, depression, anxiety, etc. Now that I'm trying to be more overt, I still feel those sometimes, but not nearly as bad :)

[bignick]

I would think this forum is for those stutterers who want to express what they normaly cannot express outside or outside the forum.

I mean light stutterers. Do you feel you don't need this forum because you are able to express easily what you want without needed this forum to do so???

Moderate or mild stutterers. Do you consider yourself able to express yourself easily even though you stutter mediumly or mildly....???

My point is, I would think this forum is for hard-core stutterers who need an outlet for their expression that they otherwise cannot get when talking to someone.

If I can't express myself at all in the real-world which is very true, I come here to say what I want.

Adam,

If you feel this strongly about this and you wouldnt let us mild stutterers on the forum, why dont you create your own forum and only allow people with severe stutters on. good luck on that..

I think you are slightly out of order with your comments as you dont think that I as others have been through hell because of my stutter however mild, because that is so far from the mark. I have been through hell in school, bullied on a daily basis, having no self esteem, worrying about what people think of me and holding back from doing things I enjoyed.

This forum as far as I was aware was for people who stutter regardless of severity to share their experiences, give advice and let people know they arent alone in their daily struggle.

You disappoint me Adam.

Nick...

[Bill Hargis]

A mild stutterer has to endure as much ridicule from the idiots as a severe stutterer

[DKoz]

Yeah even though I now have a mild stutter after spending many hours in speech therapy, me and everyone else has a right to be here. Whether we have a mild or severe stutter we are all facing the same uphill battle...

[JDRow]

I don't really see any reason to judge who does or doesn't stutter enough to belong on a forum like this. If somebody is affected by their stuttering and wants to talk about it, then I think they should be welcomed no matter how much mildly or severely they stutter.

[Daniel]

Daniel- I don't think anyone else feels that way. :) Are you a mild stutterer also?

I come across as mild I suppose. It's strange, when I'm talking I don't really hear myself doing it, but when I listen to myself on a recording, in a group situation, it's probably more obvious than I'm aware of.

For me it comes down to avoiding speaking situations, keeping what i have to say short, to the point and also word substitution (a word I would never say :) ). Often I will plan speaking situations days in advance. During up and coming meetings I'll know roughly what I'll be asked to say and I'll devise ways of getting my point across, while at the same time missing the words I know I'd block or stutter on. These are just a few of the many tricks i have up my sleeve :D

I can talk on my own quite fluently and maybe I'm a lucky one, but I find talking on the phone and recording myself I can say many of the words I'd never attempt face to face. It's why I always talk on the phone when alone.

"happy7117" - I wouldn't want to trade places with you, i wouldn't trade places with anyone, I'm happy being me. I see people in wheel chairs and others that are mentally handicapped and i suppose the same goes for severe stutters, I think to myself "at lease there disability is out there", they have to face it and deal with it. They have a genuine reason to struggle in speaking situations, rather than people thinking something worse, like you're rude, shy, dumb, uninterested or even gay.

I suppose what I'm saying is that in the 24 years that I've had this problem, the last week since joining this forum, is the only time I've spoken to anyone about it. Without a doubt It's turned me into what i am today (not all bad), it's ruled my life and suppressed who i really am inside.

[Jimmy169]

I truly think, we all have so much in common, I think it's gotta be something in the head, I mean I've read about so much that hits home, and here I thought every stutterer is different...yet sometime's I wonder...

[tb1223]

I come across as mild I suppose. It's strange, when I'm talking I don't really hear myself doing it, but when I listen to myself on a recording, in a group situation, it's probably more obvious than I'm aware of.

For me it comes down to avoiding speaking situations, keeping what i have to say short, to the point and also word substitution (a word I would never say :) ). Often I will plan speaking situations days in advance. During up and coming meetings I'll know roughly what I'll be asked to say and I'll devise ways of getting my point across, while at the same time missing the words I know I'd block or stutter on. These are just a few of the many tricks i have up my sleeve :D

I can talk on my own quite fluently and maybe I'm a lucky one, but I find talking on the phone and recording myself I can say many of the words I'd never attempt face to face. It's why I always talk on the phone when alone.

"happy7117" - I wouldn't want to trade places with you, i wouldn't trade places with anyone, I'm happy being me. I see people in wheel chairs and others that are mentally handicapped and i suppose the same goes for severe stutters, I think to myself "at lease there disability is out there", they have to face it and deal with it. They have a genuine reason to struggle in speaking situations, rather than people thinking something worse, like you're rude, shy, dumb, uninterested or even gay.

I suppose what I'm saying is that in the 24 years that I've had this problem, the last week since joining this forum, is the only time I've spoken to anyone about it. Without a doubt It's turned me into what i am today (not all bad), it's ruled my life and suppressed who i really am inside.

This, I think, really hits the nail on the head, as a great example of something mild stutterers have to face that severe stutterers generally don't. This goes to show that there are different kinds of stuttering, with different kinds of consequences; and it's simply not fair to say that one is better or worse than another.

[happy7117]

I might need to clarify my starting post...

A couple of years ago before I ever found this forum, I did stutter.

I stuttered severely as I still do. But it was very inconsistent from day to day. Not every day was severe.

I had never ever considered myself a person unable to completely say stuff, so I never thought of myself as a stutterer.

I had an extremely positive attitude, so I never ever thought of myself as a stutterer although I was one.

It never ever crossed my mind that the stutter would prevent me from doing things I want to do.

Hard to make sense when my mind is cluttered with anger!!!!

Although I did stutter, people considered me as very outgoing and chatty.

I felt outgoing and chatty because I was able to get my point across. I stuttered somewaht, but I could still get my point across fine.

Knowing I could get my point across with a little bit of hinderance made me feel like "I'm not stuttering. I'm just having a little trouble".

Ever since I accidently misused a device in the year 2001, my stuttering has gotten so much worse that I have considered myself a full fledged stutterer.

I guess the part about not needing a forum if one is a mild stuttering depends on the attitude.

If one is a very mild stutterer, they might feel like "I have a little trouble talking, but I realy don't feel like a stutterer, so why should I consider myself a stutterer?"

[happy7117]

Adam,

If you feel this strongly about this and you wouldnt let us mild stutterers on the forum, why dont you create your own forum and only allow people with severe stutters on. good luck on that..

I think you are slightly out of order with your comments as you dont think that I as others have been through hell because of my stutter however mild, because that is so far from the mark. I have been through hell in school, bullied on a daily basis, having no self esteem, worrying about what people think of me and holding back from doing things I enjoyed.

This forum as far as I was aware was for people who stutter regardless of severity to share their experiences, give advice and let people know they arent alone in their daily struggle.

You disappoint me Adam.

Nick...

The part I don't get is how mild stutters can go through hell.

Wouldn't nasty stutterers go through hell???

I would think mild stutterers would have it so easy.....

In my opinion, mild stutterers should be gratefull to not be severe.

I would love to be a mild stutter--no bull!

My post was not meant to dissapoint, but I guess you did not agree with it-- that's what opinions are for though..

[Daniel]

My post was not meant to dissapoint, but I guess you did not agree with it-- that's what opinions are for though..
Couldn't agree more; The basis of freedom of speech, is the ability to openly criticise someone else's views and opinions. :p

I don't doubt for a second how difficult living with such a severe stutter is, from you own account it's obviously hell and I'd never wish that on anybody. As someone who might be classed as a mild stutter, I can only go so far as to try an understand the difficulties and challenges that brings with it. But maybe being a mild stutter brings me a little closer to understanding your own personal struggles.

On the severity of one's stutter vs effects on one's life; I think trying to link the severity of the stutter to the impact it must have on a persons life, is perhaps a little ill-conceived. We're all different, our life experiences varied and the effects of stuttering, no matter how severe will all differ. Only the stutter themselves, if they articulate honestly can really truly tell us how it's effected them.

[nate]

Opinions are like arseholes, everybodies got one.


Ever since I accidently misused a device in the year 2001, my stuttering has gotten so much worse that I have considered myself a full fledged stutterer.


How? Did u trip slip and fall on a device, or did it flu magically into your ear when u werent looking? What kind of device was it? Explain please.
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[nate]

My Niki says this is like saying why go to the hospital when u r a little bit sick, go just before u breath your last! WTF?

[nate]

My Niki says this is like saying why go to the hospital when u r a little bit sick, go just before u breath your last! WTF?

[mo885]

I just want to agree with what others have been saying. It does not matter if a person has a mild stutter or a severe stutter a person with a mild stutter could be more effected by it then someone who stutters severely. I have a mild stutter but it effects me a lot, sure I'm happy that I don't stutter severely but that doesn't change that stuttering is hard and effects me.
I just feel like you have a lot of pity for yourself like you are in the worst situation then anyone else. You have to stop looking at life that way and always thinking about needing a device because a device won't cure you. I'm sure you also know for a lot of people the devices wear off in time and the person is right back where they started from?

[emily445455]

The part I don't get is how mild stutters can go through hell.

Wouldn't nasty stutterers go through hell???

I would think mild stutterers would have it so easy.....

In my opinion, mild stutterers should be gratefull to not be severe.

I would love to be a mild stutter--no bull!

My post was not meant to dissapoint, but I guess you did not agree with it-- that's what opinions are for though..

Sometimes mild stutterers can feel like they're living in heck too. I know I do sometimes. :( We feel the same emotions you do, just perhaps to a lesser degree. We feel shame, anxiety, we get sad, mad, depressed....

I am thankful I do not stutter severely, but I stutter enough for it to affect me in my every day life. I still haven't met my neighbors of almost a year now because I have such a hard time saying my name, and just talking in general.

The grass is always greener on the other side I guess...or seems to be to us on the "wrong" side of the fence.

[Marrow]

Surely the more people on the forum the better as u get a wider range of opinions. What about people who used to stutter but dont anymore or people who are just interested in the subject of stuttering, im preatty sure there was at least one person who used to come on her to do some research questions or something a while back. Also im preatty sure people have come on here in the past to ask advice about their relatives/friends who stutter.

To summarise, more people the better.

[Standingtall]

I would think this forum is for those stutterers who want to express what they normaly cannot express outside or outside the forum.

I mean light stutterers. Do you feel you don't need this forum because you are able to express easily what you want without needed this forum to do so???

Moderate or mild stutterers. Do you consider yourself able to express yourself easily even though you stutter mediumly or mildly....???

My point is, I would think this forum is for hard-core stutterers who need an outlet for their expression that they otherwise cannot get when talking to someone.

If I can't express myself at all in the real-world which is very true, I come here to say what I want.
Adam,
i find your words very hurtful and so disappointing. Very discouraging and kind of depressing. We have been on here for a very long time, you only beat me by a few months. i have read your story and you have read mine. I went from a severve to mild, not over night but as my confidence grew over the years.

Let me give you some advice Adam, don't compare each's other hell. Mine could scare you straight or i can find yours just a drop in the bucket. Each one of us as gone through our own hell that we don't dare wish on anyone.

I can see your point that we should be so lucky compared to you and we should be happy that we can express ourselves better than you can.

We all have our reasons for joining this forum. i joined because i was lonely, depressed and looking for understanding. This is a great place to meet people and i have made some great friends. We had laughts, joked around and we had formed a bond. The true friendships, we don't spend most of our time talking about out stutter, we talked about everyday lives and just have a good time. I was part of a great group of people and i missed my friends.

I don't mind you venting your frustration, but this forum is open to everyone including non-pws and for everyone to network with each other. Those are my two cents worth in my humble opinion.

[Jimmy169]

Happy, I was wondering what make's you consider yourself to be a severe stutterer? I mean how do you stutter? Do you get these speech blocks where you wanna say something but you can't, it's like your vocal cords lock up, or do u kinda bump and trip over many words? I think I am a mild stutterer, but I don't really know what the difference is. I've had moments where I thought it was severe, like I just couldn't talk without stuttering or getting speechblocks, and I've had moments where I was fluent and felt like I could talk for hours and hours without a single stutter.

[Roley]

My gosh folks, who cares on this forum whether a person is a very mild or very severe stutterer? Everybody should be welcome, 'cause we're all in the same boat. Otherwise you purists should start severestutterer.com -- for the select few! Also, encouraging mild stutterers to join the forum would help cut out some of the hot air and BS I read every every time I look at the forum.

[JDRow]

Also, encouraging mild stutterers to join the forum would help cut out some of the hot air and BS I read every every time I look at the forum.

What does that mean?

[Bill Hargis]

We have all been discriminated against because of stuttering, let's don't discriminate against our own.

[climberszen]

I beleive that the forum provides an opportunity for all types of stutters to come together and learn, vent, and talk with people that "understand". I would describe myself as a "mild" stutter, but in a recent evaluation (2 months ago) the University of Wyoming Stuttering Clinic's evaluation was moderate-severe. However, I suspect a good part of that measurement was based on how I perceive how stuttering impacts my personal life. So at the end... what am I? I am not sure... but I can say that after 42 years... I believe I have useful advice for younger stutters.... or even older stutters.... and I hope to learn from you guys