View Full Version : What's some good jobs for people like us?
Scott1
10-23-2008, 12:00 PM
Or speech is a set back, what's some good jobs for us? I'm trying to get enough money to move out, I'm pretty stressed out which doesn't really help my stuttering at all. I live in South Florida and I'm working for the elections (Supervisor of elections) pay is $13.50 and this job is temp and ends in a month.
I usually get jobs that pay around $9 or $10 per hour.
Count
10-24-2008, 12:41 PM
Or speech is a set back, what's some good jobs for us? I'm trying to get enough money to move out, I'm pretty stressed out which doesn't really help my stuttering at all. I live in South Florida and I'm working for the elections (Supervisor of elections) pay is $13.50 and this job is temp and ends in a month.
I usually get jobs that pay around $9 or $10 per hour.
Can't you ask an easier question?
Can't you ask an easier question?
That was helpful. :)
Well the only experience with jobs I have had are retail. Perhaps you could try that. There's not very much phone usage, and it's most just talking to people. I have an easier time of talking to people face to face.
Silent
10-24-2008, 02:13 PM
Well the only experience with jobs I have had are retail. Perhaps you could try that. There's not very much phone usage, and it's most just talking to people. I have an easier time of talking to people face to face.
Yeah, jobs that are "most just talking to people" are perfect for stutterers.
And you consider yourself severe :eek:
Yeah, jobs that are "most just talking to people" are perfect for stutterers.
And you consider yourself severe :eek:
What jobs are there that involve no talking at all? Please tell me, I would love to know. :) We have to face the fact that we all have to talk at some point. Yes, my stuttering is severe.
Stripper. . . And if you are a dude; male stripper.
Hell no! Not with my flabby ass. :o
Silent
10-24-2008, 03:02 PM
What jobs are there that involve no talking at all? Please tell me, I would love to know. :) We have to face the fact that we all have to talk at some point. Yes, my stuttering is severe.
My job involves no talking at all. I work from home and communicate by IM.
In my previous job I worked in an office and communicated by ICQ, whether it was with a co-worker in another room or one sitting next to me.
There are peopl who have a fettish for flabby asses. . . . Different strokes for different folks!!! You might be in business after all.
Well you've just let us know who :P
rodnorp
10-24-2008, 04:31 PM
I work in the pharmaceutical industry. I have to talk to people all the time.
In person. On the phone. Ect. Its kinda funny. Strange too. People take the time to listen to me. I dont hide the fact that i stutter. I just go with the flow. What do i have to loose. Some idiot laughing at me. Give me a break
I've heard it all before.
My job involves no talking at all. I work from home and communicate by IM.
In my previous job I worked in an office and communicated by ICQ, whether it was with a co-worker in another room or one sitting next to me.
Well, most jobs require a minimum amount of talking. Even with the invention of the computer, we still have to do it.
I still say retail is a good job because it doesn't involve a lot of talking, and it's easy.
Stevelaz
10-25-2008, 06:29 AM
ALL jobs are good for us..............we should not restrict ourselves to menial tasks and a crappy wage just because we stutter.
Stutterers have been succesful lawyers, doctors, politicians....
Its all about attitude and how we view ourselves.
I have a stutter, but it did not stop me from running teams/offices where I was controlling 30-40 staff.
Dont just THINK you have to work in a low rate / low pay job....you dont have to.
I know it depends on severity.....I am that much of an idealist !!!.......BUT with work we can improve our speech and make improvements and move to the next level of job.............
This crappy speech issue takes up our whole life 24hrs a day, 365 days a year.....dont just lay down and let it beat us.....we must WORK hard at improving it.............its like a sport, the more you practice the better you will get.
Just dont think you must do a non speaking job because you have a stutter....avoidance of situations is what imprisons us and just perpetuates the condition.
Or speech is a set back, what's some good jobs for us? I'm trying to get enough money to move out, I'm pretty stressed out which doesn't really help my stuttering at all. I live in South Florida and I'm working for the elections (Supervisor of elections) pay is $13.50 and this job is temp and ends in a month.
I usually get jobs that pay around $9 or $10 per hour.
1. Chef (u speak with highly skilled and motivated men and the occasional woman (no man cooks for lack of something better to do) in an enclosed space with little or no outside disturbance and u r around the best in culinary art:) )
2. Truck driver (u get to travel throughout the continents...and Ice road Truckers make a shit load of dough...I watch the History Channel!)
3. Combat Soldier
4. Factory plant worker or sweatshop worker (yo pay gets docked for talking:confused: )
5. Teacher in a school for the deaf and hearing impaired. (u have to learn sign language first though)
6. Critic (film, book, etc), U have to have scathing sense of humor though. And u can just write down your critiquing)
7. Zoologist or Vet
8. Morgue attendant or mortician (only one requirement:nerves of steel)
9.Trades eg Plumber, carpenter, Mason and builders, Post office servers, Fire fighters, Electricians and technicians, Building Superintendents, Janitorial staff...
10.Law enforement people, Cops, Wardens, etc
Good luck
Nate
couture57
10-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Nate has some good ideas, seriously. Although I like the idea of stripper... (nah, not really, I'm too old)
When I was younger I did a lot of office work, the stuff that didn't require phone work or very much talking. Accounting clerk, mail/copy clerk, file clerk, etc. I imagine that any job that is mostly done on the computer might be a good fit. Can you type well enough to do data entry?
Later in life I changed direction completely, and used one of my talents/hobbies to start a business (custom clothing design and dressmaking in my bridal shop), which became very successful. I worked at it for over 20 years. Funny thing is, I had to do it all - a lot of talking to strangers, phone work, etc. I think I was just so "into" my work that I just didn't care about the stuttering. I knew that I was very good at my job, and nothing else mattered.
Now that I no longer work (health issues forced me to close the business 4 years ago) I find that my stuttering bothers me a lot more. Now I avoid the phone and don't like to talk to strangers at all. Probably because I spend so much time alone, and the only people I talk to are people who know me already and know that I stutter. It's like I've regressed or something. I can't imagine trying to get a job now.
Count
10-30-2008, 08:58 PM
Probably because I spend so much time alone...
Don't be alone if you don't have to, couture57. Some years ago I ran into danger to remain on this track of depression too, but I was afraid of ruining my life and luckily listened to wiser people than me saying I shall take my time and start out to change the track of my life. So, I did. Most of the time I'm still a covert stutterer, but that doesn't keep me from enjoying life and having fun. And by that time I found out that being alone is crap and no one should ever experience it. I think you can just go and talk to people because you're female and so will not be judged in the same way like males.
urbanmermaid
10-31-2008, 04:15 AM
8. Morgue attendant or mortician (only one requirement:nerves of steel)
LMAO !!! :D
i think ppl who work that have much more serious mental problems than a stutter
urbanmermaid
10-31-2008, 05:27 AM
I work in the pharmaceutical industry. I have to talk to people all the time.
In person. On the phone. Ect. Its kinda funny. Strange too. People take the time to listen to me. I dont hide the fact that i stutter. I just go with the flow. What do i have to loose. Some idiot laughing at me. Give me a break
I've heard it all before.
thumbs us rodnorp!
this isnt the stuttering forum, its the MOANING forum. i bet if i visit a forum for the blind they arent going to moan this much. I mean, face it people, nothing will get u out of this than taking appropriate medicine and adopting a positive attitude towards life, which is essential even for non stutterers. Now if u cant see the world in a positive way its ur OWN FAULT. if u dont know what medicines to take, check previous threads.
i dont think any of u has been through what ive been through yet ive managed to get my life back and track and be happy with my career, boyfriend, job, everything. if i can do it, anyone can. but it takes dedication and strength of character.
couture57
10-31-2008, 11:59 AM
I think it's not such a bad thing that we sometimes moan and whine here. I mean, where else can you go and say "stuttering makes my life suck" ? Fluent people have no idea what this feels like, and they don't want to understand.
Of course it is better to talk about the positive stuff here, but sometimes you just have to express the negatives in order to begin to put them behind you. I started out on this forum with a great big long whine - I was in a state of severe depression, meds have been changed which is helping. But talking with you folks has helped me as much as the meds have. Someone posts a message that you might think is "moaning" , and I think, oh I understand just how that person feels, and it helps me to not feel so bad about it, knowing there are others who "feel my pain" and I'm not alone. Then I read other posts that try to lift the person up and put a positive spin on the subject, and I think, oh they're right, maybe I can see it their way.
Just my $.02
exactly thats the piece of therapy that might have a bigger effect on us than just the speech therapy itself. It really does help to take a few minutes and talk with some people about our disfluency. It can put a positive spin on things at time and is also really nice to know there are others out there.
urbanmermaid you could have came up with a better example...blind people...im sorry but they dont use computers. thats more of physical limitation than how our is a mental limitation. Its possible and has happened to many other people the chemicals in our brain, structure etc changes and stutter/stammer goes away. The whole thing is a mind trip and it isn't consistent
LMAO !!! :D
i think ppl who work that have much more serious mental problems than a stutter
Why???:confused:
I once seriously considered that as a vocation! Dead people dont talk, and the people who bring them there sort of want to be done with the whole thing ASAP. Besides someones got to do it? i mean if nobody did there would be rotting corpses everywhere. Right? Its as noble a proffession as being a doctor, or priest, or a teacher.
Why do u think that they are mentally troubled???
Just asking. :D
Nate
It might be a bit of a waste if someone had a talent for something like being a doctor which requires a lot of talking and then settling for something that requires no talking and it nowhere near as good as being a doctor.
I've always held jobs in sales and I even once managed a house painting franchise where I was constantly talking with customers on the phone and in person. Interacting with people is just something I'm good at and prefer to work in that field.
happy7117
10-31-2008, 11:51 PM
How can a speaking job be handled by a stutterer??
One has to be able to speak clearly and coherently.
So with a job that requires skillfull communication, how does a stutterer with a speaking job handle it?
If the job requires you to stutter and not be understood, I can understand why a stutterer would be able to keep the job.
I have went for interviews for a dishwasher, or a stockboy at P&C long ago.
I did not get hired.
I don't know of any other reason why I woudln't get hired other than the stuttering.
My ideal job would be an office job near where I live, 8 hours a day 5 days a week. No talking required.
Great money, no talking, office, in my hometown.
peebee
11-01-2008, 06:47 AM
hate to break it to you but you don't need to be fluent to wash dishes. Have you ever seen the inside of a lower class restaurant, half the staff cant speak english, lol
There are plenty of well paying unionized jobs that require no education with good raises, pensions and career opportunities. I know youre as stubborn as a mule happy but you blame your stutter on everything. Immigrants arrive in cities everyday without being able to speak or understand and they get by
happy7117
11-01-2008, 07:23 AM
hate to break it to you but you don't need to be fluent to wash dishes.
True. The interview though before getting the dishwashing gig was done by the assistant manager with my father. My father told the assist. manager all about me. The manager called me a few weeks later and asked "you want the job still Adam?". I said "Yes". He said "your hired".
Had my dad not spoke to the manager or not known the manager, and I went to see him myself for a job, what do you think the manager would have said?
Have you ever seen the inside of a lower class restaurant, half the staff cant speak english, lol
Nope I haven't. Why would non-speakers of English get hired?
I know youre as stubborn as a mule happy but you blame your stutter on everything
You'r right about stubborn as a mule.
But for me blaming stuttering on everything, I only blame it on not being able to speak right which effects my whole life.
Immigrants arrive in cities everyday without being able to speak or understand and they get by
How do they get by if they can't communicate in a language that is not understood by others?
Nope I haven't. Why would non-speakers of English get hired?
You'r right about stubborn as a mule.
But for me blaming stuttering on everything, I only blame it on not being able to speak right which effects my whole life.
How do they get by if they can't communicate in a language that is not understood by others?
Adam where do u live? are u sure its located on Planet earth?:confused:
:D
nate
couture57
11-01-2008, 06:00 PM
Happy, I think the difference may be that in most cases, an employer can comprehend the "handicap" of not speaking English. But when they talk to a stutterer, some of them immediately think "there's something mentally wrong with this person - they're retarded or something". We all know that a lot of people have that reaction, no sense in avoiding that fact. It's wrong and it hurts, but it's true.
This may sound trivial, but I think one thing to consider is how you come across in an interview aside from the stuttering. Do you use good eye contact (except when you close your eyes during a block, which is what I do) ? Does your body language indicate that you have some confidence in yourself (even if you really don't) ? Are you speaking in an intelligent manner (even though you are stuggling to get the words out) ? I think this is maybe the kind of stuff other people are talking about here. I guess they are right - we have to come across as "normal" people, even if we feel on the inside that we are "different".
At this point in my life, I'm not sure I could do those things successfully either, but I would sure try. I know those are some of the standard pieces of advice for ANY person seeking a job, and I guess they apply to us, as well.
When I was younger and still working for someone else, I always tried to do that, and I was successful sometimes. Of course, there were a lot of jobs I didn't get, and you're right, happy, it was probably because of the stuttering. It would make me so mad sometimes - I KNEW that was the reason I was not hired, which is actually illegal. But I never felt it was worth the trouble to pursue legal action. I wouldn't have wanted to work for a company that felt that way about me, anyway.
I also firmly believe that there were some jobs I got BECAUSE I stuttered, and the company needed a token "disabled" person. They never said so, of course, but it made sense. Back in the 70s, when the idea of equal employment opportunity was first being applied to people with disabilities, large companies were being pressured to "hire the handicapped" and I guess I fit the bill, in their eyes. Sad, but true.
hate to break it to you but you don't need to be fluent to wash dishes. Have you ever seen the inside of a lower class restaurant, half the staff cant speak english, lol
I've had a dish washing job, and I agree, it's the easiest job a stutterer could have. It paid slave wages and got pretty overwhelming, though.
Nope I haven't. Why would non-speakers of English get hired?
Well because they can pay them the lowest wage possible. Or even illegally, under the table. ;)
Jeff99
11-02-2008, 07:23 AM
i hate the term people like us. you can do any job you like. i've worked in retail for 6years before changing jobs. it's not about your speech it's about the type of person you are. are you hard working are you open to learning new things etc. sure some people will judge you on your speech, but who wants to work for them anyway then. i've worked in retail like a said dealing with phones custmers and fruit an veg the last being the hardest lol. now i'm a production super at a printing and publishing firm.
i hate the term people like us. you can do any job you like. i've worked in retail for 6years before changing jobs. it's not about your speech it's about the type of person you are. are you hard working are you open to learning new things etc. sure some people will judge you on your speech, but who wants to work for them anyway then. i've worked in retail like a said dealing with phones custmers and fruit an veg the last being the hardest lol. now i'm a production super at a printing and publishing firm.
Yeah retail was actually a pretty fun job to have. I had to use the phone maybe a handful of times, everyone knew I stuttered and helped me out, it was cool. They were good people and I made some good friends. It was easy, too. I mean, if you want to make no money and not trying anything new, stick with the dead-end job you have. But it won't hurt you to try something new.
couture57
11-02-2008, 03:03 PM
The problem that I had when I was working with the public all the time was the effect that it had on my mental and physical health. I would come home each day exhausted from the effort and stress of having to talk to people all day long. It caused some physical health problems that miraculously went away when I quit working. (Plus there was a major health problem that came up, unrelated to the stress of speaking, that's the main reason I gave it up)
But I guess I could still do it if I had to. Maybe if I did, this time I wouldn't get so stressed out by it that it actually made me sick.
Jeff99
11-03-2008, 05:27 AM
Yeah retail was actually a pretty fun job to have. I had to use the phone maybe a handful of times, everyone knew I stuttered and helped me out, it was cool. They were good people and I made some good friends. It was easy, too. I mean, if you want to make no money and not trying anything new, stick with the dead-end job you have. But it won't hurt you to try something new.
thats why i changed jobs not enough money in retail. i loved it tho i reckon it helped my speech heaps as well, talking to lots of people all day.
Bill Hargis
11-03-2008, 03:19 PM
I started out with a menial job. I earned the reputation as a good worker and they figured out that I had a higher than average IQ which all stutterers do. This led to better things, I became a welder and millwright and am retired with a comfortable pension. Even a severe stutterer can make it in this world.
Count
11-03-2008, 04:00 PM
...a higher than average IQ which all stutterers do.
Is that true? All stutterers have a higher than average IQ?
Is that true? All stutterers have a higher than average IQ?
I always viewed it as because we can't talk as well as others, we make up for it in other areas. I've always been told I'm a pretty good writer. In school English was my favorite subject.
Although recently a few people on here have made me question their intellect. :p
peebee
11-04-2008, 04:45 AM
I don't think stutterers have on average a higher then average IQ, if anything it should be lower because IQ tests generally have a large verbal component and test some social interaction/situations where stutterers wouldn't do as well.
well according to stats we have a higher than average IQ, we dont speak as other but at least were smart and catch onto things ;-)
couture57
11-04-2008, 12:06 PM
I haven't had my IQ tested since about age 12, but it was always extremely high - the last test said 165. I don't know how much faith I have in those tests, but I've always known I was smarter than 99% of the people I come into contact with. It's about the only thing I really like about myself, knowing that I am very intelligent. Doesn't do much good, though - people listen to me speak for 10 seconds and just assume that I'm stupid.
I've also heard that statistics show that most stutterers are above average intelligence and also tend to be very creative. We also have a higher incidence of left-handedness than the general population. Any other southpaws here? My son who stutters is also left-handed, like me. The one area where I don't fit the stuttering "profile" is that I am female.
EddieO
11-04-2008, 02:27 PM
I am a Company Commander on the fire dept. I have to talk on the radio during emergency runs. Yep, it's probably the last job a stutterer would want, but I do it. I just talk calm and slow. I some times have blocks but the other side of the radio doesn't know it.
I haven't had my IQ tested since about age 12, but it was always extremely high - the last test said 165. I don't know how much faith I have in those tests, but I've always known I was smarter than 99% of the people I come into contact with. It's about the only thing I really like about myself, knowing that I am very intelligent. Doesn't do much good, though - people listen to me speak for 10 seconds and just assume that I'm stupid.
I've also heard that statistics show that most stutterers are above average intelligence and also tend to be very creative. We also have a higher incidence of left-handedness than the general population. Any other southpaws here? My son who stutters is also left-handed, like me. The one area where I don't fit the stuttering "profile" is that I am female.
Yup, I'm left-handed. My grandfather who was also a stutterer, was left-handed as well.
urbanmermaid
11-05-2008, 05:24 AM
Why???:confused:
I once seriously considered that as a vocation! Dead people dont talk, and the people who bring them there sort of want to be done with the whole thing ASAP. Besides someones got to do it? i mean if nobody did there would be rotting corpses everywhere. Right? Its as noble a proffession as being a doctor, or priest, or a teacher.
Why do u think that they are mentally troubled???
Just asking. :D
Nate
i just think its such a creepy thing to do.. seeing dead people and examining them.. When my grandad died yrs ago i visited a morgue and it looked pretty scary plus it kinda stank...
anyway, i just dont understand why most of u ppl dont take medication which it has been proven it helps even if a little.. I know it might not work on everyone but for chrissakes!
theres no way im becoming a morgue assistant! I can think of a better career.. hmm a model hahaha !! :p
i just think its such a creepy thing to do.. seeing dead people and examining them.. When my grandad died yrs ago i visited a morgue and it looked pretty scary plus it kinda stank...
anyway, i just dont understand why most of u ppl dont take medication which it has been proven it helps even if a little.. I know it might not work on everyone but for chrissakes!
theres no way im becoming a morgue assistant! I can think of a better career.. hmm a model hahaha !! :p
thats easy for u to say *sniff*
u r a hottie.
please be sensitive to ther peoples looks!:mad:
:D just playing. It is creepy...
urbanmermaid
11-05-2008, 02:41 PM
the only reason im not doing modeling is because i cant be so damn anorexic! im not fat but my feet arent like sticks either.. and besides eating much less or following miserable diets would depress the hell out of me :p
and besides u meet lots of superficial ppl in that kinda business which is a bit annoying too ..
Derek181
11-05-2008, 06:23 PM
you can DEFIANTELY become a model urban mermaid hahahha!!!!!!
Urban Mermaid sounds like a cool name for a trendy clothing line. I'd look into that...
Urban Mermaid sounds like a cool name for a trendy clothing line. I'd look into that...
That is actually a cool idea. Sometimes I think of random ideas of how I can become rich, I should come up with a cool idea like that. :cool:
Bill Hargis
11-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Is that true? All stutterers have a higher than average IQ?It's a proven fact
It's a proven fact
LIES!!!
the opposite is true. read the archives.
"proven fact"
by who and where???
Bill Hargis
11-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Several universities. I also have two friends from school who a have PHDs in speech pathology and teach at two major universities. They have both done extensive studies, yes it's proven although most people still think a stutterer is retarded
John Woo
11-07-2008, 06:55 AM
Well, most jobs require a minimum amount of talking. Even with the invention of the computer, we still have to do it.
I still say retail is a good job because it doesn't involve a lot of talking, and it's easy.
I agree with you. Your opinion is right. We can do everything that we want to
do. we have enough abilities to earn our living. I am a chinese and I finished my college and proudly accepted a job as a database administrator. My income amounts to 200% the average income which the offical reported.:)
Although I can't speak with fluency, I still think I can do everything I set my mind to. when I stutter, my colleagues have to spend sometime listening to me. Sometimes they laugh and I also laugh. Then we will continue our conversation. I nerver feel outraged when they laugh . They also respect me, because I can solve key problems and my team needs me.
So do what you should, what you could, never concern with other people's laugh or something like this.
The less shame you feel, the better organized you are to cope with your life in this society. :) :D :D
Bill Hargis
11-07-2008, 02:25 PM
I don't believe I need your permission to make a statement.
TenaciousD
11-07-2008, 06:12 PM
you can DEFIANTELY become a model urban mermaid hahahha!!!!!!
Urbanmermaid's face looks like my ass.... after taking shit...:D
Nah Im just kiddin.... Your face is cute.
TenaciousD
11-07-2008, 06:28 PM
the only reason im not doing modeling is because i cant be so damn anorexic! im not fat but my feet arent like sticks either.. and besides eating much less or following miserable diets would depress the hell out of me :p
and besides u meet lots of superficial ppl in that kinda business which is a bit annoying too ..
I think that you should post a picture of yourself in a bikini.... ( front and back ) And let us decide whether or not you can model at your present body weight...:D Seriously though... I've had a really bad day and their is nothing that I can think of, that would cheer me up more right now, than to see a beautiful girl in a bikini. Especially one that stutters :D
urbanmermaid
11-07-2008, 07:06 PM
LOL tenacious. u sound like someone very lonely. i hope u find a special girls who loves u and understands you.
kisses
TenaciousD
11-07-2008, 08:46 PM
LOL tenacious. u sound like someone very lonely. i hope u find a special girls who loves u and understands you.
kisses
I appreciate the sympathy that you directed to me here ( its kinda cute )...... but honestly it isn't neccessary..... I'd actually be quite content with a picture of a girl in a bikini ..... and a bottle of lotion :rolleyes: or maybe vaseline :D
I appreciate the sympathy that you directed to me here ( its kinda cute )...... but honestly it isn't neccessary..... I'd actually be quite content with a picture of a girl in a bikini ..... and a bottle of lotion :rolleyes: or maybe vaseline :D
in the top right hand of the screen is a drk blue phrase that ye might've missed mate. Private messages. click on it and see what happens:D
TenaciousD
11-08-2008, 12:00 AM
in the top right hand of the screen is a drk blue phrase that ye might've missed mate. Private messages. click on it and see what happens:D
Nate... thanks for the advice. Ive been urbanmermaid all day... I actually think she wants to have with me:D I can tell by the way she been typing lol.....
Jody Fuller
11-08-2008, 01:10 AM
I've always been a fan of stuffing envelopes or assembling products at home...
You really should be able to do anything want to do or have the means to do, with or without the stuttering. It would also depend on the severity, as well. It might be hard to be a telemarketer but that's such a crappy job anyway...
Jody
urbanmermaid
11-08-2008, 06:32 AM
LOL :P
ladies of the forum!! we have to find Tenacious a girlfriend!
i cant help because i have someone very special in my life of which im very proud ;)
Stevelaz
11-08-2008, 04:56 PM
As far as I am aware (I could we wrong though) I have never heard of any empirical evidence that proves that people who stutter have a higher IQ than non-stutterers.
If you could send across a link to the research, that would be excellent, as we all could do with a boost !!
Statistics can be manipulated to prove or unprove whatever you want..example...if I only knew 1 stutterer and he could play the banjo and ride a unicycle backwards, I could extrapoltae that to a silly degree and say that
"All stutterers studied have the ability to play the banjo and ride a unicyle backwards"
The drug companies also will only publish results if they put their product in a good light.....they will only use people in groups and sub-groups that will likely to be succesful and not always give data on people that dropped out of the study (ooh why did they drop out....because it was not working or the side effects were crappy).
Lies, damn lies and statistics
BTW - If we were all so smart, with super IQ's....why do we all make as many typos as we do (myself included).....ha ha ha
Diego
11-08-2008, 07:13 PM
Hey guys, first post here. I put an intro up but it has to get approved first =) From what I've read on the higher IQ thing, its not that we are born smarter or anything, its that IQ basically tests your ability to solve a problem. Since many stutterers are constantly trying to avoid speaking situations it's like they are constantly trying to solve a problem which in return increases their ability as problem solvers. They talked about that in a book called "Stutter no more". Like with everything though, theres always exceptions to every rule. =) As for jobs, we can do almost anything, IT would probably be the best field for us. Not much talking. Just you and the screen.
this cl abou intelligene and stuttering being correlated reminds me of a joke:
Alright two guys are fishing, usually it's Bob and Bill, but I'm going to mix it up, so now it's Ahmed and Trevayne.
So Ahmed and Trevayne are fishing, and Ahmed is like
"You know T-dog (thats Trevaynes MC name), I think I should go back to school and finish my education.
and T-dog is like
"Excellent you should do that puny Mortal, go back to college"
So Ahmed goes back to college and selects his courses, of course he has to take the basics. So he selects Math, English, Physics etc, but then he comes across "Logic"
He walks up to his Professer and asks "Sir what is logic?"
The Professer began to explain.
Prof : Do you have a lawnmower?
Ahmed : Yes I do.
Prof : If you have a lawnmower, you must have a lawn, which means you own a house, and since you have a house you definately have a family, and since we live in Texas you're a Heteroual.
Ahmed was dazzled
Ahmed : WOW PROFESSER! How did you know that!
Prof : That's logic my friend.
So Ahmed goes to meet T-dog in a bar.
T-dog : Ahmed mate, How was college, Carlos here wants to know all about it.
Carlos : Omg yeah spill the beans foo!
Ahmed : Well I learned about logic.
T-dog : What's logic?
Ahmed : Well... do you own a Lawnmower?
T-dog : No.
Ahmed : You're then.
there was once a study done in a uni of PWS and it was found that they typically scored higher than average on IQ tests than their non-stuttering counterparts. i dont have the research but i do recall it did hapen.
Nate
happy7117
11-09-2008, 05:43 AM
I have not said this already-surprised I have not!
But urbanmmermaid, you are very finetabulous.
Makes me ask the question: What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this!
andyr78
11-09-2008, 09:25 AM
Hello everyone, haven't visited here in a while. Been very busy at work and home.
The topic of this thread intrigued me and I would share my story. I have been working for the same company now for 10 years. I have done just about every job in the building, but have been working in the warehouse for over 4 years now. Back in early August my supervisor was fired. His position opened up and I put my name in the running. I didn't think I had chance because my manager knows I stutter but has always told me to hang in there and something good will happen. I have always been one of the hardest workers there. Well turns out I did get the promotion and a pretty good raise as well.
My advice to anyone is to get your foot in the door, and show your strengths. Make everyone around know that you are going to put forth 100% effort in everything you do. Hard work these days can get you pretty far. Don't let anyone discourage you from trying. Now I am responsible for a staff of 13 people, who all know that I stutter.
The biggest thing I was worried about was how will I do in meetings, or if I have to sit down one-on-one with one of my employees. Well I can't say it is easy, but I have now done it twice and it has went well. My stuttering did show, but I did my best to not let it bother me.
Warehouse jobs usually pay pretty good money and you don't need to talk very much.
andyr78
11-09-2008, 09:30 AM
I really can speak English. I guess this forum does not allow you to edit your messages after you post them. My second sentence should read "I wanted to share my story".
Bill Hargis
11-09-2008, 02:37 PM
True, you can make unsupported, false, erroneous statements anytime you want. It is, after all, your reputation on the line not mine. Your statement sets the tone for the rest of your possible statements lacking credibility, validity, and reliability.
I am not one of those young members who are impressed by your age and your cls of having achieved fluency with a device. I merely asked for references so I can peruse and validate your haphazard cl. If you cannot handle it you should not let your fanboys see you sweat.
I never tried to impress anyone. I did achieve fluency with a device. All who are close to me know I am not a liar as you cl. I am not sweating as you with your ego think I am. You have insulted other people on this forum by calling them fanboys and I am sure you will come back with something to keep this going. I don't have to prove anything to you, this forum is for support and encouragement so I'm not going to dignify your retort by even reading it.
Bill Hargis
11-09-2008, 02:44 PM
I really can speak English. I guess this forum does not allow you to edit your messages after you post them. My second sentence should read "I wanted to share my story".Enjoyed your story. Hard work always pays off
urbanmermaid
11-09-2008, 05:35 PM
i rely on the forum to inform me about updates on pagaclone.. if theres a place where u'll learn first it'll be here.. its always nice to hear other ppl's stories even if sometimes they're really (and unnecessarily) negative...
couture57
11-09-2008, 05:35 PM
andyr78, what a great and encouraging story! I agree with you - hard work generally pays off in the end. It's too bad that PWS seem to have to work twice as hard as fluent people to be noticed in a job, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Hard work has its rewards.
If the membership of this forum is any indication, we are generally a pretty intelligent lot.
If the membership of this forum is any indication, we are generally a pretty intelligent lot.
Really????:confused:
like real as in for real???
well i'd like to know what logic u used to come that conclusion! theres only one Phd and i'd wager it was a fluke.
not the Phd but the fact that he's here:D
we're normal people. We bicker and fret and moan and spell english badly and type in an even stranger patois, and have lives that are negative, and positive and full of strife and happiness. Were no better than anyone else. We're no worse either.
couture57
11-10-2008, 12:54 AM
Maybe so, nate, but we don't worry about using words like "patois" because we have confidence that others here will know what it means. :D
Big Jay
11-11-2008, 08:35 PM
:cool: In response to urbanmermaid we arent moaning we are sharing how we feel with others who are like us. There is unfortunately no medicine out there yet that cures this so until there is Let us Vent to people who TRULY understand the bullshit we go through on a daily basis.I do have a positive outlook on life but things arent always peaches and cream
happy7117
11-11-2008, 10:10 PM
BTW, how is Pagaclone coimg along? How long do we have to wait untill it comes out??
happy7117
11-11-2008, 10:13 PM
I never tried to impress anyone. I did achieve fluency with a device
I am so proud of you. A man after my own dreams and wishes. Keep using the device if you still have it, and I am sure you will acheive bigger and greater fluency.
And to all the nay-sayers against a device to help fluency, wake up and read Bill's testimony!
I am so proud of you. A man after my own dreams and wishes. Keep using the device if you still have it, and I am sure you will acheive bigger and greater fluency.
And to all the nay-sayers against a device to help fluency, wake up and read Bill's testimony!
Why don't you wake up? Have you not read the other posts from people who have used the "devices" and said they do not work? It only "works" (which it doesn't, anyways) for people who do not block? You say your stuttering is the worst ever, which must mean you have blocks. What will you do when you finally realize these things do not work? :p
TenaciousD
11-12-2008, 08:38 PM
Why don't you wake up? Have you not read the other posts from people who have used the "devices" and said they do not work? It only "works" (which it doesn't, anyways) for people who do not block? You say your stuttering is the worst ever, which must mean you have blocks. What will you do when you finally realize these things do not work? :p
Happy what kind of device do you want cause I have a casa futura small talk daf device that I could mail to you... It didn't work for me. And I agree with sst.... most people that I've encountered that have used devices didn't achieve fluency. But who knows.... maybe a device will help you.
Happy what kind of device do you want cause I have a casa futura small talk daf device that I could mail to you... It didn't work for me. And I agree with sst.... most people that I've encountered that have used devices didn't achieve fluency. But who knows.... maybe a device will help you.
Bless u T-dog.
Happy dream just came true, now he can get a girlfriend with the device lol. I doubt it will work though, those things are a waste of money when the whole stutter/stammer disorder has to do with how our brain function.
to me seems like a way for bad people to separate us from our money.
Bill Hargis
11-13-2008, 03:11 PM
Happy what kind of device do you want cause I have a casa futura small talk daf device that I could mail to you... It didn't work for me. And I agree with sst.... most people that I've encountered that have used devices didn't achieve fluency. But who knows.... maybe a device will help you. Happy, here's a chance for you to try a device. Maybe it won't help, maybe it will the worst that can happen is you still stutter. I had severe blocks like you. Don't get your hopes up too high, a device helps some people and some it don't. You've been offered a DAF, try it there's nothing to lose. Good luck
Don't get your hopes up too high, a device helps some people and some it don't.
Finally, some sane advice.
Scott1
05-19-2010, 12:38 AM
bumping a old thread but it's seems like stutterers are just screwed, stuttering isn't seen as a disability and I cannot get a full time job to even get out of this woman's house.
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