Would You Have Children If You Knew They Would Stutter?

[Violet]

Would you have children if you knew they would stutter?

What is the chance that a child would stutter if they had one... or both... parents that stutter? I don’t have any known relatives that stutter... but there is still a very real chance that they would stutter... :(

I have been thinking about this for a while... and I know that I’m only seventeen and that I think too much... but seriously though... I’m not sure whether I would want to bring someone in to this world and watch them struggle through stuttering... I would blame myself so much for carrying the blasted gene... Like talk about ethics! Would you knowingly pass stuttering onto another person...and possibly many others in future generations to come?? I would never be able to live with myself for causing anyone, particularly my baby, such hurt and pain and difficulty.

And then if your partner also stuttered, would you have children with them? ... Because then wouldn’t that raise the chance of them stuttering by a million times?? And how would you model good speaking when you and your partner both stutter? And how effectively do you think you could raise someone if you can’t talk to them properly?

Like I know that in five, ten years I will most definitely want to have children... but then would I prefer to have children struggling with stuttering or have no children at all?

But then I suppose that issue won’t ever arise unless I actually find someone... and let’s face it I have a very limited chance of getting with non stuttering guys ...and then if I was to have children with a guy that stutters the chance then of having a child that stutters will be like a million to one! :(

I suppose adoption is always an option... but I would much prefer to have little me’s and little Mr X's running around...

Grr... Curse you stuttering! :mad::(

[Box of Clocks]

I don't think you should worry about this too much. I don't know if stuttering is something that can be passed on from parents, perhaps it would be more likely that the child would just copy stuttering from an adult while learning to talk.

If they did show signs of stuttering at a very young age then you could maybe take them to speech therapy very early and this possibly might stop it before it becomes a big problem.

If the worse case scenario did arise and you did have children who stuttered and therapy didn't help then at least you, as a stutterer yourself, would be in a position to offer a lot of support and empathy. They wouldn't feel so alone if they could talk to a parent who would completly understand.

[eva]

If the worse case scenario did arise and you did have children who stuttered and therapy didn't help then at least you, as a stutterer yourself, would be in a position to offer a lot of support and empathy. They wouldn't feel so alone if they could talk to a parent who would completly understand.

I've been thinking about this issue myself too and this is a good point. I'm sure it would hurt to watch your own child struggling with the same problem you've had to struggle with, but I don't think it should be a reason not to have children.

And then if your partner also stuttered, would you have children with them? ... Because then wouldn’t that raise the chance of them stuttering by a million times?? And how would you model good speaking when you and your partner both stutter? And how effectively do you think you could raise someone if you can’t talk to them properly?

Yes I think it would be more likely if both parents stuttered. But both options are still possible, a child who stutters or a child who doesn't stutter, with only one stutter parent or two stutterers. You never know so you shouldn't worry too much.
I have a two year old little sister and I barely stutter at all when I talk to her. I've noticed the same with other kids. So I don't think it would be impossible for me to raise a child because of my speech.

[John Woo]

hahahahahahahahahahaha............................ .....

that's a little funny.............

sorry, I can't help laughing. I think every stutterer will have or already had his/her children. We have the rights to be parents just like others who are normal. Thinking too much about stutter do no good to us.

And we shouldn't escape from the real life and its duties. instead, we can choose to face the fact. if your children might stutter like us, just tell them how to deal with situations during stuttering using your experience. If they might not stutter at all, just tell them they are better than you.

As I know several mumbres of this forum have had their children. For example, C*UNT57, she has two children. one stutters and another never. And the better child even helped order foods while her mother was having trouble speaking in a restaurant. How thoughtful the child was!

Go straight ahead and never permit the stutter interfere with your life.

[Violet]

I dunno i just feel so incredibly selfish even thinking about having children.... damn there isnt an emoticon that suits my feelings.. i guess i will just have to settle with: :(

[eva]

the better child

Better? The one who doesn't stutter?

[JDRow]

and let’s face it I have a very limited chance of getting with non stuttering guys

Why do you think that? Most stutterers get married, and the vast majority get married to people who don't stutter. Why assume you'd be any different?

That's a hard question about having kids. If I was 100% certain that my child would stutter as much as I did, then I have to say I'd be reluctant to have kids. But, my fiancee really wants kids, and I think she'll be a great mom, and I wouldn't want to tell her she couldn't have children because I didn't want to have a kid who stuttered.

At this point I feel like, since I'm the only person in my family who stutters, it doesn't seem to have a huge genetic link for me, so there's probably a good chance any kids we have won't stutter. And, if they did, we'd handle it a lot better than my parents did, so hopefully it wouldn't be as severe or traumatic as it was for me.

[Happy stutter23]

very good thread,i am thinking about this for some time now.i would really like to become a father beacuse i know that i could be very good at it(i know how to cook,i clean my apartment,i do my laundry)but the thaught that my kids could stutter...i really don't know what to do.The decision of having kids it will not only be mine but my wife's to so i just have to wait and see :)
Violet you worry to much that you will not find a fluent guy,belive me guys don't give a damn about fluence hahahahahaha :D as long as you look good,cook,clean, great in bed you are ok hahahaha
here's something to cheer you up:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFRnuvpc2jQ

[sst]

I don't like kids. :) They annoy the hell out of me. Meanwhile, a lot of other s are adopting and settling down. I want to settle down, but not with a bunch of kids. That is my idea of hell. :D

[nate]

I don't like kids. :) They annoy the hell out of me. Meanwhile, a lot of other s are adopting and settling down. I want to settle down, but not with a bunch of kids. That is my idea of hell. :D

thats what i thought. then i had my babies and everyday they amaze me. they do do the simplest shit and it amazes me. they dose off and it amazes me. they fart and it amazes me. and what amazes me most of all is they are me. and they are niki... they are us. and its like the best feeling ever. Not hell my friend...about as close to heaven at it gets.

and now i even if i knew they will stutter, knowing them...i'd still have them.
Kids arent for everyone though. they scream in the middle of the night, they pull at your glasses, they drool on the remote control and it up, they get sick and worry u to death, but they are yours. and they r the best people to be around. until they hit puberty. then thats hell. Ach man! now u've got me all scared and shit see how u r?
Nate

[sst]

thats what i thought. then i had my babies and everyday they amaze me. they do do the simplest shit and it amazes me. they dose off and it amazes me. they fart and it amazes me. and what amazes me most of all is they are me. and they are niki... they are us. and its like the best feeling ever. Not hell my friend...about as close to heaven at it gets.

and now i even if i knew they will stutter, knowing them...i'd still have them.
Kids arent for everyone though. they scream in the middle of the night, they pull at your glasses, they drool on the remote control and it up, they get sick and worry u to death, but they are yours. and they r the best people to be around. until they hit puberty. then thats hell. Ach man! now u've got me all scared and shit see how u r?
Nate

I'm glad you feel that way, at least you care about your kids. For some people kids are an inconvenience, I feel bad for those children. Your kids will grow up knowing they are wanted, and that is a good thing. :) They will be good people.

But still, I would never want kids. Either by adoption, or turkey baster. :p It's too much work, and they are a money drain.

[emily445455]

and let’s face it I have a very limited chance of getting with non stuttering guys

There are men out there who love us for us and aren't turned off by the way we talk....both stutterers and non-stutterers. My husband is a non-stutterer and I am a stutterer, all the stutterers I know have a non-stuttering spouse. :)

Re: having children. Yes, my husband and I plan on having children in a few years. I have about 50% chance I would say of passing on the stuttering gene. I also have about 50% chance of passing on the Alzhiemer's gene. There are more people in my family who have/had Alzhiemer's than who stutter.

If I had to choose...I'd pass on the stuttering gene...but I don't think I get a choice.

If I have a child/children who stutter then so be it, I will be there to help them through it and someone who understands. There are worse things than stuttering.

[Adrian]

Personally if I ever have children, I will adopt. The fact that a biological child may have a slightly greater chance of stuttering has only a little to do with my fondness of adoption. While there is a huge demand for healthy white babies; there are babies with special needs, ethnic minorities, and older children that are unwanted and end up in foster care. It seems selfish to have a biological child when other children need homes.

[sst]

Personally if I ever have children, I will adopt. The fact that a biological child may have a slightly greater chance of stuttering has only a little to do with my fondness of adoption. While there is a huge demand for healthy white babies; there are babies with special needs, ethnic minorities, and older children that are unwanted and end up in foster care. It seems selfish to have a biological child when other children need homes.

Adrian, you are exactly right. Just watching those TV shows about people having 16 kids, while there are millions of kids needing homes, and never getting one, is appalling. There is a stigma attached to foster kids, and it's based on ignorance. Why pollute an already over-populated world with yet another person, when you can adopt someone who needs a family. It doesn't make much sense.

[nate]

Why pollute an already over-populated world.

my babies r not pollution!!!
*gasping indignantly*

but u r right adrian. In fact if i do get married we might adopt a few kids. but my twins will always be special to us coz they are us.
Nate

[emily445455]

Adrian, I used to think that way, about ppl were selfish if they wanted their own children instead of adopting.

But now that I'm married and starting a family has become a very real thing....I struggle with the idea of only adopting. I also struggle with adopting after I have biological children just because that seems like it would be very hard.

If hubby and I cannot have biological children, we are not doing fertility treatment, we will adopt.

[Adrian]

If hubby and I cannot have biological children, we are not doing fertility treatment, we will adopt.

Good to hear. I have a hard time respecting people who do fertility treatment. I mean how self involved must one be to think a baby must be a biological part of them to be worthy?

[Adrian]

Why pollute an already over-populated world with yet another person, when you can adopt someone who needs a family. It doesn't make much sense.

This is also true of pets. Why pay hundreds of dollars for a pure bred dog or cat, when you can get an unwanted one at your local animal shelter for basically free? Eight million dogs and cats are euthanized each year in animal shelters in the US alone, why not save one instead of adding to the animal overpopulation problem. And, don't forget to spay/neuter too!

Anyway, I apologize for the off topic post, but this is an important issue to me.

[emily445455]

Adrian- I definitly agree. Why have 6 sickly, biological babies as a result of fertility treatment when you can have 1 or 2 healthy babies from adoption?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Someone also stated these people who have 20+ children....I say have 10 biological children, then adopt 10 :D

[eva]

This is also true of pets. Why pay hundreds of dollars for a pure bred dog or cat, when you can get an unwanted one at your local animal shelter for basically free? Eight million dogs and cats are euthanized each year in animal shelters in the US alone, why not save one instead of adding to the animal overpopulation problem.


Adrian, you are so right! I got my last dog from an animal shelter, someone had abandoned her on a parking lot in the middle of nowhere, tied to a pole. I can't understand how can anyone do that to an animal.
I don't remember I had to pay them anything, they were happy that I took her. She was a little bit restless then but calmed down after few months.

I used to think the same way about adoption too. The process of adoption is not easy though. I don't think I will ever get married, and atleast in Finland only married couples can adopt. Live-in partners are not allowed to do that. I don't understand why, even singles are allowed to adopt.

[chris2112]

Would you have children if you knew they would stutter?

What is the chance that a child would stutter if they had one... or both... parents that stutter? I don’t have any known relatives that stutter... but there is still a very real chance that they would stutter... :(

I have been thinking about this for a while... and I know that I’m only seventeen and that I think too much... but seriously though... I’m not sure whether I would want to bring someone in to this world and watch them struggle through stuttering... I would blame myself so much for carrying the blasted gene... Like talk about ethics! Would you knowingly pass stuttering onto another person...and possibly many others in future generations to come?? I would never be able to live with myself for causing anyone, particularly my baby, such hurt and pain and difficulty.

And then if your partner also stuttered, would you have children with them? ... Because then wouldn’t that raise the chance of them stuttering by a million times?? And how would you model good speaking when you and your partner both stutter? And how effectively do you think you could raise someone if you can’t talk to them properly?

Like I know that in five, ten years I will most definitely want to have children... but then would I prefer to have children struggling with stuttering or have no children at all?

But then I suppose that issue won’t ever arise unless I actually find someone... and let’s face it I have a very limited chance of getting with non stuttering guys ...and then if I was to have children with a guy that stutters the chance then of having a child that stutters will be like a million to one! :(

I suppose adoption is always an option... but I would much prefer to have little me’s and little Mr X's running around...

Grr... Curse you stuttering! ::(

Im glade you brought this up. Out of all the problems stuttering brings this is the one that really kills me. I would love to be a dad and I know I would be awsome at it lol. Its not so much that Im worried about my child stuttering, because I have doubts stuttering is genetic. Its more I dont think ill be able to raise them the best I can when Im not able to speak to them fluently and answer there billions of questions when they might not be able to understand the choppiness of my speach because of blocks. Kids do catch on to differences of language really quick I guess though. I definatly dont know If Im going to have kids because of my stutter, and thats a big :( for me. I do have hope though.

[TenaciousD]

This is an interesting topic although for myself I don't think that this can be a legitimate concern anymore ( cause last night while experiencing a severe bout of depression I cut my nuts off and fed them to my dog lol..........

but seriously--- I would say their is no need to worry too much about this.....(cause at the going rate of new/improved technology and medical scientific advances) I really think that their will soon be treatments that will tremendously eliminate the symptoms of stuttering. Unless their is a nuclear holocaust or something which would obviously slow down that rate of advance. Scary to think ---but ide venture to say that this whole nuclear holocaust situation is deffinately a possibility ( considering all of the crazies in the world ---- like chavez and the president of Iran) If the latter happens anytime soon ........Ide say who gives a shit about stuttering:D

[chris2112]

This is an interesting topic although for myself I don't think that this can be a legitimate concern anymore ( cause last night while experiencing a severe bout of depression I cut my nuts off and fed them to my dog lol..........

but seriously--- I would say their is no need to worry too much about this.....(cause at the going rate of new/improved technology and medical scientific advances) I really think that their will soon be treatments that will tremendously eliminate the symptoms of stuttering. Unless their is a nuclear holocaust or something which would obviously slow down that rate of advance. Scary to think ---but ide venture to say that this whole nuclear holocaust situation is deffinately a possibility ( considering all of the crazies in the world ---- like chavez and the president of Iran) If the latter happens anytime soon ........Ide say who gives a shit about stuttering:D

Idk. The fundametals about stuttering arent even answered yet. We probibly shouldnt expect a cure anytime soon or ever.

[Jamus]

If I positively knew that my kid would grow up with a stutter, I would probably avoid it. But since that could never be set in stone, I would not have an issue having a kid with someone b/c I stutter. Even if she had a stutter to, I wouldn't be worried about it unless it actually became an issue. There would be a far better chance of my kid stuttering, sure, but I try to live in the moment, and my life isn't going to be governed by a chance or a greater risk of my kid becoming a stutterer. If it happens, so be it, I will deal with it then.

[TenaciousD]

Idk. The fundametals about stuttering arent even answered yet. We probibly shouldnt expect a cure anytime soon or ever.

IMHO........... I disagree:o ............... I think that within the next 5 to 10 years...... theres going to be great advancement in doctor's ability to treat stuttering ,and improve the conditions of many different ailments, disorders, diseases etc. Just because every problem with stuttering hasn't been figured out yet doesn't mean that the symptoms can't be dramatically reduced or eliminated....... that being said I wouldn't cl that stuttering will be cured.....simply because its still so mysterious.....but who knows, there is alot of research being done....maybe someone will be able to come up with a valid scientific explanation for this phenomenom ( in the next 5 to 10 years )...... I honestly don't care if Im cured of stuttering....... I just care about how severe it can be........ If its so mild that its never really a problem.... Ide be a really happy man:)

[chris2112]

IMHO........... I disagree:o ............... I think that within the next 5 to 10 years...... theres going to be great advancement in doctor's ability to treat stuttering ,and improve the conditions of many different ailments, disorders, diseases etc. Just because every problem with stuttering hasn't been figured out yet doesn't mean that the symptoms can't be dramatically reduced or eliminated....... that being said I wouldn't cl that stuttering will be cured.....simply because its still so mysterious.....but who knows, there is alot of research being done....maybe someone will be able to come up with a valid scientific explanation for this phenomenom ( in the next 5 to 10 years )...... I honestly don't care if Im cured of stuttering....... I just care about how severe it can be........ If its so mild that its never really a problem.... Ide be a really happy man:)

I hope your right haha. I bet the medicine would have something to do with relaxing you somehow.

[JDRow]

I hope your right haha. I bet the medicine would have something to do with relaxing you somehow.

Studies have been done on the use of anti-anxiety medications in stuttering, and they aren't a cure, and don't seem to work very consistently. It's not simply a matter of feeling less anxious, or else taking anti-anxiety medications should work to cure stuttering.

[chris2112]

Studies have been done on the use of anti-anxiety medications in stuttering, and they aren't a cure, and don't seem to work very consistently. It's not simply a matter of feeling less anxious, or else taking anti-anxiety medications should work to cure stuttering.

yeah very true. I just have a hard time beliving its actually a physical or neurological problem since most stutters can stutter less or not at all in certain situtations, they can produce the words just not in certain situations.

[Asif]

Crows generally agree that humans put far too much emphasis on the importance of the spoken word.
They also debate among themselves what would happen if - and when - stutterers suddenly found themselves fluent.
But beings crows, they don't care all that much either way.
They can't help but be interested in everything though.

[Adrian]

yeah very true. I just have a hard time beliving its actually a physical or neurological problem since most stutters can stutter less or not at all in certain situtations, they can produce the words just not in certain situations.

This is no way rules out a neurological problem. Think of it in a demands/capacity model. Most everyone is fluent when alone (I'm actually not, but that is another discussion). When alone the demands are low and both fluent speakers and stutterers are fluent. When the demands increase, by simply having another person present, doing a presentation, etc., the fluent speaker's brain can handle the increased demands, while the stutterers cannot. Brain studies have shown that stutterers have less active speech areas of the brain then fluent speakers. So, in other words, our capacity is less and can only handle certain demands. I have heard more scientific explainations, but that is the basic jist of the theory.

[chris2112]

This is no way rules out a neurological problem. Think of it in a demands/capacity model. Most everyone is fluent when alone (I'm actually not, but that is another discussion). When alone the demands are low and both fluent speakers and stutterers are fluent. When the demands increase, by simply having another person present, doing a presentation, etc., the fluent speaker's brain can handle the increased demands, while the stutterers cannot. Brain studies have shown that stutterers have less active speech areas of the brain then fluent speakers. So, in other words, our capacity is less and can only handle certain demands. I have heard more scientific explainations, but that is the basic jist of the theory.

Mabye the increase in demands itself is what makes us stutter, not that theres some neurological threshold that when is exceeded we stutter. And of course stutters have less active speech areas then fluent speakers, we cant possibly talk as much as fluent speakers.

[Adrian]

Mabye the increase in demands itself is what makes us stutter, not that theres some neurological threshold that when is exceeded we stutter. And of course stutters have less active speech areas then fluent speakers, we cant possibly talk as much as fluent speakers.

Brain scans were done when both stutterers and non-stutterers were not speaking and the speaking area of the brain was less active for stutterers in this case too. This would indicate a decreased capacity.

[Adrian]

Mabye the increase in demands itself is what makes us stutter

If it is not neurological then what would cause the breakdown of the speaking process? Just curious.

[chris2112]

If it is not neurological then what would cause the breakdown of the speaking process? Just curious.

Mabye its learned by accident and conditioned into you, and the fear of doing it again reenforces that you will stutter again, everytime strengthing the condition. I do not belive this really how it is Im just saying how it could be. It could be neurological too, but Id consider all the possibilitys.

[Count]

Would you have children if you knew they would stutter?


It's very unlikely that your children will develop a stutter. Look, you are a stutterer yourself. You know the signs of stuttering by heart. When your child turns 3 or 4 you will notice if he/she develops a stutter or not. If so you just take them to a speech therapy and the chance that it disappears will be 99%.
The sooner a therapy begins the better are the prospects for success.

BTW why do you think you won't get on with a non-stuttering guy? Men don't mind stuttering in women. I'm sure there are guys who feel sympathy for you because you have problems with talking.

And yes, you think too much at 17! The thing that you plan to have children at 22 makes it even more strange.

[Count]

This is an interesting topic although for myself I don't think that this can be a legitimate concern anymore ( cause last night while experiencing a severe bout of depression I cut my nuts off and fed them to my dog lol..........

but seriously--- I would say their is no need to worry too much about this.....(cause at the going rate of new/improved technology and medical scientific advances) I really think that their will soon be treatments that will tremendously eliminate the symptoms of stuttering. Unless their is a nuclear holocaust or something which would obviously slow down that rate of advance. Scary to think ---but ide venture to say that this whole nuclear holocaust situation is deffinately a possibility ( considering all of the crazies in the world ---- like chavez and the president of Iran) If the latter happens anytime soon ........Ide say who gives a shit about stuttering:D


Patrick Stewart junior has spoken. :D But nuclear holocaust is unrealistic since the Soviets have vanished. But a virus would be interesting.

I just got the idea for my first novel. It will be about a virus that kills most of humanity. There are just a few survivors in the world. The only survivor in Oceania will be a girl called Anthea. She lives in Sydney and has a stutter.

[Adrian]

If so you just take them to a speech therapy and the chance that it disappears will be 99%.
The sooner a therapy begins the better are the prospects for success.



I wish it were that simple. There is no real evidence that early intervention in speech therapy works. Sure speech therapists will cl it works, but they can't back it up with any meaningful studies. I was in therapy at three years of age and it did not help me at all. I know several with the same experience.

[Asif]

She lives in Sydney and has a stutter.

And is older than you:)

Too bad you died of the virus too.
Or if you didn't, you're on a different continent.
Have you ever tried travelling between continents, alone, on a sailboat?
I have.
Man those oceans are big. And dangerous. And the best teachers of all.

[Count]

And is older than you:)

Too bad you died of the virus too.
Or if you didn't, you're on a different continent.
Have you ever tried travelling between continents, alone, on a sailboat?
I have.
Man those oceans are big. And dangerous. And the best teachers of all.

No, she is 17 years old.

You travelled alone on a boat? How did you survive? :confused:

[Asif]

No, she is 17 years old.

You travelled alone on a boat? How did you survive? :confused:

What makes you think I did survive?

[chris2112]

What makes you think I did survive?

Because your talking to us right now. Mabye you died spiritualy or something but thats not what he asked. Id like to know too, that sounds like it would be an interesting thing to do lol.

[Asif]

Id like to know too, that sounds like it would be an interesting thing to do lol.

The Raven:
Coaxes with the one hand. Slaps down with the other.
I don't think I will accommodate you, for now.

[chris2112]

The Raven:
Coaxes with the one hand. Slaps down with the other.
I don't think I will accommodate you, for now.

I wasnt slapping you down for that, I was just saying it was obvious what he ment and you chose to go all mystical on him for some reason.

[Asif]

you chose to go all mystical on him for some reason.

What made you see it as mystical?

[chris2112]

What made you see it as mystical?

sorry, wrong word, it was more retarded.

[nate]

sorry, wrong word, it was more retarded.

Yow!:D
dee dee dee!

2 funny:D

[Asif]

sorry, wrong word, it was more retarded.

It helps if you say what you mean.
Or did the meaning change, depending upon the response?

[chris2112]

It helps if you say what you mean.
Or did the meaning change, depending upon the response?

No its just I dont really know what mystical really means. It just reminds me of a wise old guy who thinks he knows everything.

[Asif]

No its just I dont really know what mystical really means. It just reminds me of a wise old guy who thinks he knows everything.

Try using a dictionary before you go off like a bomb.
I use one almost every day.

[Violet]

It's very unlikely that your children will develop a stutter. Look, you are a stutterer yourself. You know the signs of stuttering by heart. When your child turns 3 or 4 you will notice if he/she develops a stutter or not. If so you just take them to a speech therapy and the chance that it disappears will be 99%.
The sooner a therapy begins the better are the prospects for success.

BTW why do you think you won't get on with a non-stuttering guy? Men don't mind stuttering in women. I'm sure there are guys who feel sympathy for you because you have problems with talking.

And yes, you think too much at 17! The thing that you plan to have children at 22 makes it even more strange.

oh yeah i'll only be 22! lol i just pulled out random numbers... perhaps i should up the age just a tad... :p

and yeah i guess I can just be kinda shy and have low selfesteem... :o

[Violet]

Patrick Stewart junior has spoken. :D But nuclear holocaust is unrealistic since the Soviets have vanished. But a virus would be interesting.

I just got the idea for my first novel. It will be about a virus that kills most of humanity. There are just a few survivors in the world. The only survivor in Oceania will be a girl called Anthea. She lives in Sydney and has a stutter.

OMG YES!
no wait.. thats not good.. cause i'll be lonely! :confused:

lol the sad thing is i can actually see this as a book haha.... Hey how many books are there from the perspective of people who stutter?! ... a couple years ago i picked up a book and on the back it said it was about a fat girl and her best friend who stuttered was leaving to go to a new school.. but form the writing style it seemed to be that fat girl was only friends with stutter girl because she couldn't get anyone else to be friends with her.. so i didnt read it because it seemed crap anyway...

[Count]

OMG YES!
cause i'll be lonely! :confused:


I know a great guy who will enjoy being your boy-friend. He is a fellow-countryman of you, is quite strong to protect his girl and he lives beyond the thunderdome.
http://agustin.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/15/mad_max.jpg

[Count]

OMG YES!
Hey how many books are there from the perspective of people who stutter?! ...

NOT a single one I can think of. There just a few with stutterers (mostly male) as minor characters. But I put you in that book. Isn't that great?

The name Anthea is cool for a character anyway. Never heard it before in a movie. Is it even of English origin? :confused:

[Asif]

That picture is very strange:
The guy on the first bike, holding the meat cleaver...
How can he work the throttle?
He would be crawling along at idle, brandishing his weapon, with his minions forced to stay in formation behind him.
How scary is that?

[Count]

That picture is very strange:
The guy on the first bike, holding the meat cleaver...
How can he work the throttle?
He would be crawling along at idle, brandishing his weapon, with his minions forced to stay in formation behind him.
How scary is that?

Mad Max is unrealistic. There are many things I hate about these movies. But hey, I grew up with movies like these, so why do I criticize them? :confused:

[Asif]

Mad Max is unrealistic. There are many things I hate about these movies. But hey, I grew up with movies like these, so why do I criticize them? :confused:

Guys love these movies: they wish they could be like him.
He always knows:
a: who the bad guys are.
b: that they will never be anything else other than bad guys.
c: is rather good at eliminating them.
d: has no problems making these difficult decisions.
e: has no problem scoring the best chick in the cast.

You criticise these movies because they are patently absurd :)

[Count]

Guys love these movies: they wish they could be like him.


So true. As a boy I wished to be like Mad Max.

[Violet]

i've never even heard of mad max :confused:

The name Anthea is cool for a character anyway. Never heard it before in a movie. Is it even of English origin? :confused:

i have no idea.. but i was helping out at a homeless men shelter and three homeless men seperatly called me over to tell me i had a pretty name and asked me if it was greek while seedily looking me up and down... so judging by that i'm assuming its greek...

but it means flower though! :D
my mum chose it because her name means garden. How hippy is that?

[Count]

i've never even heard of mad max :confused:


Good for you. You haven't missed anything. It's just some trash for guys like me.

[Count]

i
i have no idea.. but i was helping out at a homeless men shelter and three homeless men seperatly called me over to tell me i had a pretty name and asked me if it was greek while seedily looking me up and down... so judging by that i'm assuming its greek...

but it means flower though! :D
my mum chose it because her name means garden. How hippy is that?

According to my little lexicon of British names:

"ANTHEA - Used in the classical period as a byname of the goddess Hera at Argos, but as a modern given name, it was reinvented by English 17th-century poets to symbolize spring."

[Asif]

According to my little lexicon of British names:


Lol :)
I never met anyone before who actually possessed a little lexicon of British names. It paints a quaint picture.

[Violet]

According to my little lexicon of British names:

"ANTHEA - Used in the classical period as a byname of the goddess Hera at Argos, but as a modern given name, it was reinvented by English 17th-century poets to symbolize spring."

Flower/Spring/Goddess... all the same thing really ;)
I suppose it depends on where you look..

[Silent]

I would not have children if I knew they would stutter, or have any other severe disability. I don't want to contribute to more suffering.

[bignick]

I have to admit that this crossed my mind when considering it, but we would still have had them even if we know they would stutter. My wife and children are my life and regardless of any disability. They have brought so much happiness to me that I could never ever think of life without them.
Just ask any parent and most will say the same.

[Count]

I suppose adoption is always an option... but I would much prefer to have little me’s and little Mr X's running around...

Grr... Curse you stuttering! :mad::(


I have just one question, Violet. Is that you in your profile picture? If so, then there must be several guys in your environment chasing you. You just haven't noticed it yet.

[andyr78]

I have had 3 children, and none of them currently stutter. This was however one of my biggest fears the whole time during my wife's pregnancy (besides making sure they had all their fingers and toes).

[Mullen]

The most important thing to consider is just how well adjusted you as a parent would be in raising a child. I think children sense the social security, and insecurity, of their parents; and it has a way of influencing their personalities.

[Adrian]

I have had 3 children, and none of them currently stutter. This was however one of my biggest fears the whole time during my wife's pregnancy (besides making sure they had all their fingers and toes).

Good point about the fingers and toes. The truth is there will be something wrong with any child at some point in time. No one has a perfect child. Yes as stutterers, we likely have a higher then normal chance of the child also stuttering. But so what? Any number of other things are more likely to occur. If we are not prepared for this, then we should not have children no matter whether we stutter or not.

[Violet]

I have just one question, Violet. Is that you in your profile picture? If so, then there must be several guys in your environment chasing you. You just haven't noticed it yet.

Profile Picture or Avatar? Its me in my profile picture, but the Avatar is just a random picture because when i first made an account i wanted to remain anonymous in case, for some peculiar reason, anyone i knew stumbled across this site and recognised me... but then soon after i came to the conclusion that if they looked hard enough they would realise it was me anyway so i put up a profile picture of myself :p

[Bobby]

Its a hard question to answer.

I think it would be pretty hard to watch my son or daughter go through what I went through. However, in a positive way I would be able to relate to them and know exactly what they are going through, give them ideas to cope. Its hard going through it all and not having anyone understand exactly what we feel.

[emily445455]

You are very pretty Violet :)

[Count]

Profile Picture or Avatar?

I remember a profile picture by you. There was a Caucasian girl and a Japanese. So you were one of them I assume. :D

[Violet]

I remember a profile picture by you. There was a Caucasian girl and a Japanese. So you were one of them I assume. :D

Well I'm the Caucasian one :p well actually i'm like half italian, half english/irish and a bit of everything else.. :p

[jak]

when you have kids ! your stuttering becomes your least of your worries ,you dont know whats its like until you have one ,its hard on people who dont stutter and breaks alot of couples up ,you have to make alot of medical calls ,stay home from work alot ,more kids you have more stress you have ,if you are the type who wants to push everything off on your spouse so you wont have to talk you wont be married long

[Count]

...if you are the type who wants to push everything off on your spouse so you wont have to talk you wont be married long

Many women of today don't want children. Or at least not much, means just one child all in all. That's why the population in Western countries sinks so rapidly.
For example I would dislike a marriage with a woman who wants more than one child. One reason for me to break it up.

[Silent]

if you are the type who wants to push everything off on your spouse so you wont have to talk you wont be married long
I'll probably not be married at all.
I can't imagine how a marriage could happen to me. It's just too bizarre a thing. There are so many things that are easier to get, more natural and more appealing.

It's strange how so many people want to have a partner, like it's their destiny, instinct, or something like that. They must have a totally different biological makeup.

[Violet]

I'll probably not be married at all.
I can't imagine how a marriage could happen to me. It's just too bizarre a thing. There are so many things that are easier to get, more natural and more appealing.

It's strange how so many people want to have a partner, like it's their destiny, instinct, or something like that. They must have a totally different biological makeup.

haha i DEFINANTLY want a family :D

[Count]

I'll probably not be married at all.
It's strange how so many people want to have a partner, like it's their destiny, instinct, or something like that. They must have a totally different biological makeup.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Now this was the strangest comment of the year 2008, silent. You can have your own opinion of course. But at least think about it once again.
You don't want to be married. Ok, that's one thing. But you also never want a girlfriend, love etc. I promise you that this won't be a happy life. Human beings always look for someone of the opposite gender. You are a software programmer, right? Then I tell you: Love is the same program like Windows. It's the operating system of the spirit and if you don't have it you've got a problem because later on in life you will be unnerved by program failures such as depression and other stuff. Think about your life, silent.
Have a great year 2009.

[Silent]

You don't want to be married. Ok, that's one thing. But you also never want a girlfriend, love etc. I promise you that this won't be a happy life. Human beings always look for someone of the opposite gender. You are a software programmer, right? Then I tell you: Love is the same program like Windows. It's the operating system of the spirit and if you don't have it you've got a problem because later on in life you will be unnerved by program failures such as depression and other stuff.
I'm not going to learn to want things I don't currently want. It would not only be depressing but also futile, because your wants, by definition, come from yourself, not from external sources telling you what you're supposed to want.
If they're meant to change, they will. If they're not, so be it.

Have a great new year too :)

[Count]

I'm not going to learn to want things I don't currently want. It would not only be depressing but also futile, because your wants, by definition, come from yourself, not from external sources telling you what you're supposed to want.
If they're meant to change, they will. If they're not, so be it.

Have a great new year too :)

I just felt sorry for someone who is planning on spending his whole life alone.

[Imperfection]

Lately this issue has been on my mind, too. I thought that I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I passed on my stutter to any kids I could have.

Although, I doubt any guy would ever fall in love with me, least of all want to pursue marriage and children. :( As, well, let's just say I'm pretty darn ugly, and, oh, yeah, I can't even say my own freaking name sometimes on top of other crap involving my speech. >__>

But if, just IF, some Christian man ever did love me and want me to have his children, I would have to say after reading the other replies on here...I'd do it. At least if they did get a stutter after me, I could really be there for them. Not to say my parents haven't tried to understand my stutter...it's just, I know no one besides another stutterer can truly understand or comprehend what we go through--not even SLPs.

[emily445455]

Imperfection-- I am married to a wonderful Christian man when I also never thought it possible or that I was ever worth it :)

The truth is....we ARE worth it, sometimes it just takes a loving man to make us realize that. I still struggle with it sometimes and he has loved me for almost 5 years now. :) *hugs*

[jak]

when you fall in love how you look is really not a issue because when you love a person you dont see there flaws ,why does the man have to be christian? Spending life alone just sucks ! I married a women I knew for a week ,10 years later still have same women ,life is weird so dont limit yourself

[emily445455]

I can't speak for Imperfection, but when I became a Christian the only men I looked for had to be Christians.

It was a personal choice, I did not want to live my life married to a non-Christian.

[Imperfection]

My reasons are basically the same as what emily stated.

As a Bible verse put it, "a believer should not be yoked to a nonbeliever." (Or something like that--it's not the whole verse.) In my heart, I know it would just cause problems...and it's not like there's only a few Christian men in my area, so I'm not limiting myself that much. I just know what kind of man I want, and he would need to be a Christian because I am a Christian. It just would not work out if he believed in something else or nothing at all.

[Imperfection]

To clarify, because this forum does not have an edit button (which I find preposterous): "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14

So, that's what I personally go by. :)

[Count]

As, well, let's just say I'm pretty darn ugly.

I don't believe that.

[Violet]

Although, I doubt any guy would ever fall in love with me, least of all want to pursue marriage and children. :( As, well, let's just say I'm pretty darn ugly, and, oh, yeah, I can't even say my own freaking name sometimes on top of other crap involving my speech. >__>

Hey don't think like that! No one is ugly. i think that concept is so stupid. we are all people. beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
There are some people who are 'technically' beautiful.. but personally i find them so ugly it makes me want to leave the room.. because you spend time with them and you realise how 'ugly' they just are.. all their previously appealing physical features just melt away and all i am able to see is the harshness in their eyes and features and mannerism.. and you realise that they are just ugly, selfish, mean people filled with so much crap and negative energy.
like we always hear all that crap about how "oh she's beautiful on the inside *awkward silence* cough.." but to me if someone is a good person and you know them you look at them as if they are the most attractive thing in the world.. and then you get those sluts who steal childrens lunches who walk around as if they are gods gift and believe that everyone wants to be them because they are so confident and self involved... and its like "ewww" why the would you want to be that?

Anyone who doesnt love you and make you happy isnt worth your time. Thats my moto at least :D
You don't want to be with those wits who sleep around and treat you like crap.. they might look appealing and cool now, but look into the future.. do you really want to be with a vein, selfish person who cannot see your good aspects? and who is only going to hurt you? no. i thought not!

There are plenty of guys out there for you.

and hey i used to feel exactly like you do.. well actually i still do :( ... so if all else fails we can live together untill we are old cat ladies who scare away the local children! *insert evil laughter here* and we can hold regular stutter parties where all people are invited! *blows party streamer* (who knows you might even meet your prince charming ;))

[jak]

Imperfection ,maybee if you did not limit your choice in men to such a small margin that you might find one? I just got home from TN so I know the culture .you are raised in a small town to be very religuos but you cant live life using Bible verses to solve everything ,people who stutter are very insecure with themselves,so we somtimes use things like religion ,drugs ,drinking etc to try to make ourselves feel better, I have a relative in TN that is dating a girl of a different religion them him and her family does not accept him so they are going to move away

[Tom]

Back on topic...

As stutterers yourselves, I'm amazed you actually believe that your stutter can be passed down to your children. Stuttering isn't genetic or neurological. I'm not going to go into what it is, I just wrote up a rather lengthy post sharing my views and theories on what stuttering is. I'm just waiting for a moderator to release it (another frustrating element of this forum which I do not understand).

[emily445455]

jak- actually I use the Bible/Jesus to solve all my everything in my life :)

I know for me, I would much rather limit my choice of men and be happy in my marriage (i.e. to a man who shares my deep love for God and His Word) than have lots of choices in men and be miserable in that aspect of my marriage.

[jak]

emily445455,what if you have kids and they dont have the same faith you do or one is ? You are going to be in for a big surprise if you have kids

[Silent]

emily445455,what if you have kids and they dont have the same faith you do or one is ?
As long as kids are just kids, they don't have a faith; they just pretend to believe what their parents expect them to. That's why parents should have compatible beliefs ;)

[sst]

As long as kids are just kids, they don't have a faith; they just pretend to believe what their parents expect them to.

Exactly. I was forced to go to church with my grandparents when I was a kid, but that didn't mean I took any of it seriously. :p

Everyone in this forum will find someone for them, that's how the world works. There is always someone out there who will like your quirks, in fact that might be what is attractive to them. I can be a goofy person and weird sometimes, but I've met many men who have thought it was great. It's just good to be yourself.

[happy7117]

Would I have children if I knew they would stutter?

Heck NO!

I would feel angry, I would be constantly apologizing, I would hate for my son or daughter to get teased.

To be living through the hell stuttering like me-is something I would not want my son or daughter to face.

[TenaciousD]

I'll probably not be married at all.
I can't imagine how a marriage could happen to me. It's just too bizarre a thing. There are so many things that are easier to get, more natural and more appealing.

It's strange how so many people want to have a partner, like it's their destiny, instinct, or something like that. They must have a totally different biological makeup.

This is a really interesting perspective........ Its deep.....I like it.:) ......were deffinately in a new age........an age where old school values and customs are examined- evaluated-- and possibly changed....... Like the institution of marriage. As more people evaluate this concept maybe marriage as we know it today...won't be a societal custom anymore

[Violet]

This is a really interesting perspective........ Its deep.....I like it.:) ......were deffinately in a new age........an age where old school values and customs are examined- evaluated-- and possibly changed....... Like the institution of marriage. As more people evaluate this concept maybe marriage as we know it today...won't be a societal custom anymore

And marriage will be allowed!!!! :D

[TenaciousD]

This is a really interesting perspective........ Its deep.....I like it.:) ......were deffinately in a new age........an age where old school values and customs are examined- evaluated-- and possibly changed....... Like the institution of marriage. As more people evaluate this concept maybe marriage as we know it today...won't be a societal custom anymore

This whole new age idea is absolutely fascinating to me and I want to expound a little more on the topic :D ......even if it means quoting myself lol.......at any rate....... I think that as time goes on new ways of communicating will be developed that will surpass the efficiency of oral communication.......... just think "traditional speech" as we know it-- could one day be a distant memory............ and so could stuttering....... science and technology------thats our hope............ A little off topic here but I prophesy that Theologians will one day ( hopefully soon ) be replaced by scientists:D

[TenaciousD]

And marriage will be allowed!!!! :D

Hopefully:)
............. Hey Ide still marry you though Violet.......even if it wasn't the norm:D

[emily445455]

emily445455,what if you have kids and they dont have the same faith you do or one is ? You are going to be in for a big surprise if you have kids

I would be very disappointed...but wouldn't love them any less.

[sst]

I would be very disappointed...but wouldn't love them any less.

Well, at least you wouldn't kick them out to the street. :)

[emily445455]

Well, at least you wouldn't kick them out to the street. :)

Unless it became a problem in my house...no, I wouldn't.

[Violet]

Hopefully
............. Hey Ide still marry you though Violet.......even if it wasn't the norm

Yeah you can be my backup if i'm not married by the time i'm 40 or something. :D

Obama's pro marriage isn't he? awesome. Australia will follow suit then... well at least once all the old people die... or maybe even before America? because we don't have our old prime minister who wants to have babies with bush anymore. he probably cried when bush had to leave. hahaha :p

I swear i was so happy that Obama was elected.. and he's not even my president haha. But seriously i wouldn't feel safe at night if it was that other old guy. (no offence to him) but doesnt he have a life expectany of a month or somthing? and then OMFG the sarah palin freak would get in. You can just tell that she has more power than he does. manipulative . perhaps it was just how the media was portraying her over here, but WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR COUNTRY IF YOU LET HER GET THAT HIGH UP?!?!?!?!?!???? she didn't even know where Africa was!!! and she got pranked by two guys pretending to be french and she actually fell for it :eek: (the recording was the funniest shit ever)

haha no offence to all you Palin supporters, but you are all wits. :D

[Count]

haha no offence to all you Palin supporters, but you are all wits. :D

Not really a supporter since I dislike the Republican party in the USA, but from the point of view of a man I have to say that Governor Sarah Palin is quite adorable as a woman and I certainly could have a lot of fun with her. Whereas from the standpoint of a clear thinking individual I consider Mrs. Palin to be extraordinarily retarded. I just cannot decide which one should be my position concerning Sarah Palin. ;)

[nate]

Not really a supporter since I dislike the Republican party in the USA, but from the point of view of a man I have to say that Governor Sarah Palin is quite adorable as a woman and I certainly could have a lot of fun with her. Whereas from the standpoint of a clear thinking individual I consider Mrs. Palin to be extraordinarily retarded. I just cannot decide which one should be my position concerning Sarah Palin. ;)

Dude...:D

Nate

[Standingtall]

Having a stutter is not good enough reason to take urself out of the gene pool. I am married and i have twin girls and my girls do stutter. They are loved and they have understanding and with that they will overcome any obstacle that will come their way. I do not regret having kids only wish i can have more.

Now, if u don't want kids, then u should not have a relationship because it would not be fair to the other half or if u are lucky u can find someone that don't want kids either. I ask u this question, would u have kids knowing they will die in the end! Will ur kids outlive u or will u outlive ur kids. Will they get cancer or some kind of unknow sickness. We have a life and we have to get out of it as much as we can. We make that choice if it is a happy one or a negative one and don't our kids deserve that chance as well.

[Vegeta]

Hey violet!
Listen.. My mother had a stuttering problem but she has surpassed a long time ago. She got perfectly fluent naturally!
She began to stutter when she was struggling and my grandfather told her to stop, breave and then speak correctly. The moment she realized that she stuttered, that was the moment she began stuttering. The same happened with me. I was about 5 I think and I was at a shop. And then I started to stutter without knowing it. The guy in the shop asked my if I knew that I stuttered :( :( :( then I asked him what that was... and that was it. :/
But 5 in 100 children stutter and only about 1 in 100 realize that. So just make sure that your children do not gain conscious about stuterring. ;)

[nate]

Hey violet!
Listen.. My mother had a stuttering problem but she has surpassed a long time ago. She got perfectly fluent naturally!
She began to stutter when she was struggling and my grandfather told her to stop, breave and then speak correctly. The moment she realized that she stuttered, that was the moment she began stuttering. The same happened with me. I was about 5 I think and I was at a shop. And then I started to stutter without knowing it. The guy in the shop asked my if I knew that I stuttered :( :( :( then I asked him what that was... and that was it. :/
But 5 in 100 children stutter and only about 1 in 100 realize that. So just make sure that your children do not gain conscious about stuterring. ;)

someone told me that once...turned into one of the worst habits ever. every time i'd block i'd breath and i sounded like a loon on acid. and then to not make it obvious i'd suck it in through my teeth and it would make a sucking sound sound.i sounded like a loon on weed.
dont do it violet.
Nate

[Standingtall]

someone told me that once...turned into one of the worst habits ever. every time i'd block i'd breath and i sounded like a loon on acid. and then to not make it obvious i'd suck it in through my teeth and it would make a sucking sound sound.i sounded like a loon on weed.
dont do it violet.
Nate
I am very much intuned with nature, but i never heard a loon on acid. What is it suppose to sound like. :D

[nate]

I am very much intuned with nature, but i never heard a loon on acid. What is it suppose to sound like. :D

Not loon as in the bird. Ach man! Loon as in loony...loony tune? they all had speech impediments...daffy duck had a list. As did sylvester. And porky had a stutter. Only Bugs was ok. Even tweety had something wrong...couldnt say S..." i tot i taw a putty cat, i did, i did tee a putty cat" Memer?
:)
Nate

[emily2020]

I'm 17 also and have thought about the same issue many times. Stuttering is definitely genetic in my family: my dad, my dad's dad, my dad's maternal grandmother, and one of my sisters all stutter. Thankfully, as far as I know, all of their stutters (as well as mine) have been pretty mild. Nonetheless, it's probably caused all of them as much heartache and anxiety it has me. I assume I would marry a non-stutterer- just because there are so many more of them out there. But, it would be so hard for me to risk having a child that stuttered. Of course, I would love them no less- but it would hurt to see them go through what I have (even as a mild stutterer). It kills me to see my youngest sister get nervous about presentations (and she's an even milder stutterer than me) and I can't imagine my child suffering in that way. On the other hand, I would be able to help advise them more--and hopefully be more vocal about it than my dad has to me. It's a toss up, but I think if I really wanted kids someday I would go through with it. One could argue that stuttering builds character and we can't let it stop us from having a full life.

[Violet]

I'm 17 also and have thought about the same issue many times. Stuttering is definitely genetic in my family: my dad, my dad's dad, my dad's maternal grandmother, and one of my sisters all stutter. Thankfully, as far as I know, all of their stutters (as well as mine) have been pretty mild. Nonetheless, it's probably caused all of them as much heartache and anxiety it has me. I assume I would marry a non-stutterer- just because there are so many more of them out there. But, it would be so hard for me to risk having a child that stuttered. Of course, I would love them no less- but it would hurt to see them go through what I have (even as a mild stutterer). It kills me to see my youngest sister get nervous about presentations (and she's an even milder stutterer than me) and I can't imagine my child suffering in that way. On the other hand, I would be able to help advise them more--and hopefully be more vocal about it than my dad has to me. It's a toss up, but I think if I really wanted kids someday I would go through with it. One could argue that stuttering builds character and we can't let it stop us from having a full life.

yeah true.. gee you have heeps of relatives that stutter.. i've got none (well discounting all of the possibilities of unknown great great great great aunts and uncles stuttering) so i suppose, looking at genetics (and discounting the fathers genes) your children would more likely stutter than mine.. but then i suppose you can never really tell can you..?
And we would be very prepared for them to stutter, and it's proven that early intevention has a very good success rate.. so who knows, they might not even have a stutter at all or grow out of it. *crosses fingers and toes*

and yeah, i think that stuttering does build character, as does everything else.. I just think that it only really emerges once the person becomes more comfortable within themselves..how ever long that takes :p

and additionally: do you think that "types of stutters" are inherited? Like if your relatives grew out of it as a teen, you would have a higher rate of growing out of it. or if your relatives had a very mild stutter, you would have a mild stutter.
What would happen if you had a relative with a very severe stutter on your mums side, and a relative with a mild stutter on your dads side? would you have a moderate stutter? hahaha :rolleyes:

[grantM]

Facts from Dr. Susan Block of Latrobe Uni.

# Approximately 70% of people who stutter have a family history
# There is a chance that an adult who stutters will have children who will stutter too
# The chance of this occurring varies according to whether the parent is male or female and whether the child is a boy or a girl
# There is no relationship between the severity of stuttering and the extent of stuttering in the family history

[Violet]

Facts from Dr. Susan Block of Latrobe Uni.

# Approximately 70% of people who stutter have a family history
# There is a chance that an adult who stutters will have children who will stutter too
# The chance of this occurring varies according to whether the parent is male or female and whether the child is a boy or a girl
# There is no relationship between the severity of stuttering and the extent of stuttering in the family history

Thats really interesting.. it makes sense the chance changing if the child is a boy or girl.. but how does the gender of the parent who stutters affect the chance of passing on stuttering? does Dr Susan Block say? :confused:

[grantM]

I know from reading that stuttering is far more prevalent in males than females.

[Imperfection]

So does that mean that if someone who had a father who stuttered, they'd be more likely to pass on the gene, as more males stutter than females...or what? :confused:

I, too, would like to know if Dr. Susan Block went on to say if having a father or having a mother that stutters would increase the likelihood the child(ren) would stutter.

[justthere]

i probably would not have children if i knew 100% that they would stutter....i would just adopt.

[emily445455]

So does that mean that if someone who had a father who stuttered, they'd be more likely to pass on the gene, as more males stutter than females...or what? :confused:

I, too, would like to know if Dr. Susan Block went on to say if having a father or having a mother that stutters would increase the likelihood the child(ren) would stutter.

I have no idea how all that genetics stuff works.

My mother stutters and passed it on to 2 out of her 3 daughters and neither of her 2 sons. :confused: No idea...

[Zachary]

Would you have children if you knew they would stutter?

What is the chance that a child would stutter if they had one... or both... parents that stutter? I don’t have any known relatives that stutter... but there is still a very real chance that they would stutter... :(

I have been thinking about this for a while... and I know that I’m only seventeen and that I think too much... but seriously though... I’m not sure whether I would want to bring someone in to this world and watch them struggle through stuttering... I would blame myself so much for carrying the blasted gene... Like talk about ethics! Would you knowingly pass stuttering onto another person...and possibly many others in future generations to come?? I would never be able to live with myself for causing anyone, particularly my baby, such hurt and pain and difficulty.

And then if your partner also stuttered, would you have children with them? ... Because then wouldn’t that raise the chance of them stuttering by a million times?? And how would you model good speaking when you and your partner both stutter? And how effectively do you think you could raise someone if you can’t talk to them properly?

Like I know that in five, ten years I will most definitely want to have children... but then would I prefer to have children struggling with stuttering or have no children at all?

But then I suppose that issue won’t ever arise unless I actually find someone... and let’s face it I have a very limited chance of getting with non stuttering guys ...and then if I was to have children with a guy that stutters the chance then of having a child that stutters will be like a million to one! :(

I suppose adoption is always an option... but I would much prefer to have little me’s and little Mr X's running around...

Grr... Curse you stuttering! :mad::(

I'd love to make a few monsters of my own in 4-6 years. My stuttering issue and the potential for my offspring to stutter has not affected my reasoning whatsoever. Though I've struggled quite a bit with stuttering, I have had moments I would not trade for the world, ever. Life is SO MUCH GREATER than dealing with a stuttering issue.

I'm sure you can think of a ton of things you love and cherish in life. Try working out your answer from that angle ... Your kids will love the same stuff.

[grantM]

I remember reading about that movement in deafness circles where the parents (usually both deaf themselves) of deaf kids refuse to give them medical help until they are old enough to make their own decisions. They feel safe, secure and productive with their deafness and see no need for their kids to be treated.

[thaddeus]

:eek: You can call me mr. i bring controversy, after i say this but
i think stuttering can be stopped when you get to it ahead of time like 8 an younger
why?
because my sister stuttered and when my mom first noticed my sister starting to stutter she jumped on it right away made my sister read, talk aloud and other stuff and it worked.
If you get to a child before there brain fine tunes and "sets" i think theres hope

is there a stuttering gene:Yes you should know that especially if stuttering is in your family

can genes be turned off:Yes

and to answer the question yes i would still have kids but considering women pass the stuttering gene im good to go

[Violet]

You can call me mr. i bring controversy, after i say this but
i think stuttering can be stopped when you get to it ahead of time like 8 an younger
why?
because my sister stuttered and when my mom first noticed my sister starting to stutter she jumped on it right away made my sister read, talk aloud and other stuff and it worked.
If you get to a child before there brain fine tunes and "sets" i think theres hope

is there a stuttering gene:Yes you should know that especially if stuttering is in your family

can genes be turned off:Yes

and to answer the question yes i would still have kids but considering women pass the stuttering gene im good to go

what what? women pass on the stuttering gene? where did you hear that??? :confused: :eek: :(

Most children are cured at a young age if it is addressed, but not all. I was in speech therapy from a very young age and was cured of apparently a multitude of speech problems, but they couldnt cure the stutter. :(

[Count]

I was in speech therapy from a very young age and was cured of apparently a multitude of speech problems, but they couldnt cure the stutter. :(

What were those other speech problems? I can't imagine something worse than a stutter.

[Violet]

What were those other speech problems? I can't imagine something worse than a stutter.

ummm i'm not exactly sure because i was very very young, but apparently there were like something like eight things :confused: i had a lisp, and would do wierd things with words like replace letters or something? and also couldnt actually say lots of sounds. but i dont have much recollection of any of that stuff :p

[emily445455]

What were those other speech problems? I can't imagine something worse than a stutter.

I dont know...I think I'd rather stutter than have Broca's Aphasia...definitly. That would suck.

My sister has an /r/ articulation problem and a stutter. The articulation problem bothers her way more than her stutter does.

I think it has more to do with attitude and personality than with the speech disorder.

[thaddeus]

Yes it is true women pass the gene
at first that was somthing ive always "thought" but wasnt sure of until
one day when i had a "speech teacher" she said tell me what you know about stuttering so i did
then she said did you know that women pass the stuttering gene.

The reason why i assumed women did is because know one on my dads side stutters and on my moms side my uncle stutters "so severly" and one of my other cousins stutters
and with the stuttering people i know there relatives on there moms side stutter

That was one of the theories i had ,where i turned out to be right
and other thoery i had is that stuttering and toretts are similar is ways,
and on youtube some girl posted the same thing, so im not alone in my thinking
solutions come from theories

[BenLZ]

I think it would be irresponsible to breed if you knew your child would have a stutter. Do society a favor. Of course this is a purely hypothetical issue because there is never a 100% chance that a child will stutter, but if the parents do then it greatly increases the risk. In general, I just don't think people with serious inheritable disabilities should be reproducing and, frankly, I wouldn't mind some legislation to put that into effect (not that it would ever happen here).

[chris2112]

I think it would be irresponsible to breed if you knew your child would have a stutter. Do society a favor. Of course this is a purely hypothetical issue because there is never a 100% chance that a child will stutter, but if the parents do then it greatly increases the risk. In general, I just don't think people with serious inheritable disabilities should be reproducing and, frankly, I wouldn't mind some legislation to put that into effect (not that it would ever happen here).

You know why that would never happen? because your utterly wrong. Stutterers can lead full and happy lives and frankly, I think it builds charactor and lets you grow mentaly and into maturity earlier then a non sutterer. The only thing I would be worried about is having trouble explaining things about the world to my kid, but kids learn to understand different ways of speech quickly.

[Derek181]

this is by far the stupidest thing ive ever heard. not having kids because you think they will stutter!!!! hahaha

[JDRow]

I think it would be irresponsible to breed if you knew your child would have a stutter. Do society a favor. Of course this is a purely hypothetical issue because there is never a 100% chance that a child will stutter, but if the parents do then it greatly increases the risk. In general, I just don't think people with serious inheritable disabilities should be reproducing and, frankly, I wouldn't mind some legislation to put that into effect (not that it would ever happen here).

You'd like the government to pass a law making it illegal for stutterers to have children? You'd like to see stutterers forced to undergo sterilization, lest they inflict a child who stutters upon society?

That's the most f-ed up thing I've heard in a long time. That viewpoint would have fit right in in Nazi Germany. Seriously, man, screw you.

[JDRow]

Not to mention, my fiancee's father is disabled and the whole idea that disabled people shouldn't reproduce just disgusts me. Even if a disability is inheritable, disabled people can live happy, productive lives. Who the hell are you or the government to decide that some condition makes somebody unworthy of reproduction?

[bignick]

BenLZ,

Its very sad that you think as you do but at the end of the day its your opinion.

I am luckily enough to have 2 boys, it did cross my mind that they might stutter but it was always a reason not to have children. They are my world and they bring me so much happiness that you obviously dont understand, just ask AGOFCR, standing tall, nate and anyone else who has children and they will tell you that you would do anything for them, to protect them and to try and bring them up as best you can showing them what is right and wrong.

maybe one day you will realise what a stupid comment to make and find out how special having children is.

Nick.

[emily445455]

I think it would be irresponsible to breed if you knew your child would have a stutter. Do society a favor. Of course this is a purely hypothetical issue because there is never a 100% chance that a child will stutter, but if the parents do then it greatly increases the risk. In general, I just don't think people with serious inheritable disabilities should be reproducing and, frankly, I wouldn't mind some legislation to put that into effect (not that it would ever happen here).

Wow, definitly disagree. Everyone should have the oppurtunity to have children, and those children should have the oppurtunity to have a life....even if it's not "perfect" or even "normal".

Legislation....awhile back, there was an organization that would sterilize people because they were deaf and/or blind. Good reason right? Then it lead to those who weren't education or speak proper English.

[emily445455]

Good reason right?

Just so everyone knows, this statement was sarcastic.

[needausername]

Yes, I would probably still have children (even if I knew they would stutter) if I ever get married. I would do my best to support, sympathize, and try to not rush them to speak. IMHO, only a person who stutters truely knows and understands what another pws goes through.

[Jake]

Stuttering sucks, but it is not the end of the world. So you trip over a few words and people give you weird looks - who cares? I have a 2 year old daughter and she is by far the best thing that ever happened to me. I doubt she will stutter, but if she does, so be it. I certainly won't love her any less. Plus I still think there will be some form of medication or treatment for stuttering within the next 15 years to make it all a moot point.

[Violet]

Yes, I would probably still have children (even if I knew they would stutter) if I ever get married. I would do my best to support, sympathize, and try to not rush them to speak. IMHO, only a person who stutters truely knows and understands what another pws goes through.

hey what does IMHO mean? :confused:

[eva]

I think it would be irresponsible to breed if you knew your child would have a stutter. Do society a favor.
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

No, wait... Hitler said "Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized."
That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Your opinion is the second.


I'm surprised to hear women pass the gene... I didn't even know there is a stuttering gene??

hey what does IMHO mean?
In my honest opinion?

[needausername]

hey what does IMHO mean? :confused:



In My Humble Opinion

[grantM]

I think it would be irresponsible to breed if you knew your child would have a stutter. Do society a favor. Of course this is a purely hypothetical issue because there is never a 100% chance that a child will stutter, but if the parents do then it greatly increases the risk. In general, I just don't think people with serious inheritable disabilities should be reproducing and, frankly, I wouldn't mind some legislation to put that into effect (not that it would ever happen here).

Yes that is one of the worst opinions I have ever read! Terrible! I think having a stutter or a disability is actually doing society a favour. We help to create a rich diverse mix. We can also lead incredibly good lives bettering society and ourselves and I can bet that stutterers are very little of a financial burden!

[Violet]

In My Humble Opinion

hahaa can't believe i never guessed that! and i'm guessing that IMO is "in my opinion" hahaha i have serioulsy never heard of that before! :p

[Violet]

Yes that is one of the worst opinions I have ever read! Terrible! I think having a stutter or a disability is actually doing society a favour. We help to create a rich diverse mix. We can also lead incredibly good lives bettering society and ourselves and I can bet that stutterers are very little of a financial burden!

so very true! :D
makes me feel better about having stutter babies!

[claragazza]

I'm surprised to hear women pass the gene... I didn't even know there is a stuttering gene??


I'm surprised too. I don't think this is true. I have two kids and one at least does not stutter (the other one is too yound to speak yet so we'll see, but I'm not so worried).

[emily445455]

In My Humble Opinion

Or in my honest opinion :) That's what I always thought it was anyways.

[Violet]

I'm surprised to hear women pass the gene... I didn't even know there is a stuttering gene??

well i suppose there is a gene for everything to do with us.. and it might not be a deifnite gene, but more a gene which makes us more suseptable to having speech problems..

It is impossible for "women to pass the gene" namly because with a basic knowledge of biology, it is pure random which X from the two X chromosomes from the mother will meet the X or Y chromosome from the father. meaning that it can also be passed by the father because they have an X chromosome as well.
and also, (i am producing this all from thin air and everything i say could be wrong, but i doubt it) i bet that the reason why there are more males who stutter than females is because it is carried on the X chromosome and is recessesive, meaning that if a guy ends up getting an X chromosome with said "stuttering gene", they stutter.. i female on the other hand needs to get TWO X chromosomes with said "stuttering gene" to make them stutter.. meaning that many females out there could just be carrying the gene and could potentially have children that stutter.
so if my theory is correct, a female can carry the stuttering gene and not stutter and pass it on to children, and a man can't do that.. but if they stutter it doesnt really depend on what they are, there is still a chance that their kids will stutter..

haha my bio teacher was explaining this to my class (using the example of things like colour blindness and hemophilia, not stuttering) and it reminded me of what stuttering was like with the genes and all. :p

haha he would be so damn proud :D

PS: Now that i think about it, have there been any major studies about family history and where the "Stutter Genes" come from?

[Mullen]

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

No, wait... Hitler said "Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized."
That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

It may not have been as ambitious as Sweden's but didn't Finland have its own sterilization program? Some say it went on right up into the 1970's.

[grantM]

There is some loose evidence floating around that perhaps the Nazis did focus some attention on stuttering people so I have been told

[BenLZ]

Not to mention, my fiancee's father is disabled and the whole idea that disabled people shouldn't reproduce just disgusts me. Even if a disability is inheritable, disabled people can live happy, productive lives. Who the hell are you or the government to decide that some condition makes somebody unworthy of reproduction?
Disabled covers a wide range of conditions, and I think my words have been twisted a bit. If someone had their leg blown off in a war, that's not something that their child is going to inherit. My uncle has a terrible case of muscular dystrophy and it was devastating in my family to see him just degenerate over the years. If he was able to have kids, and there was a 100% chance of that kid having muscular dystrophy, would you really encourage bringing that child into the world? The disease rots your brain.
You know why that would never happen? because your utterly wrong. Stutterers can lead full and happy lives and frankly, I think it builds charactor and lets you grow mentaly and into maturity earlier then a non sutterer. The only thing I would be worried about is having trouble explaining things about the world to my kid, but kids learn to understand different ways of speech quickly.

Full and happy lives? Maybe mild stutterers, but for those with a strong stutter it is extremely difficult. I just don't think it's right to bring a severe stutterer into this world when you know FOR A FACT that this is something he or she will have to deal with and struggle through. I just couldn't bring my child through it, and it's the same way for certain other diseases, even depression. Someone who KNEW 100% that their child would have severe depression shouldn't be breeding either. It's really for the kids.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

No, wait... Hitler said "Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized."
That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Your opinion is the second.


I'm surprised to hear women pass the gene... I didn't even know there is a stuttering gene??

There's no stuttering gene known. This is a theoretical discussion about procreating despite knowing for certain that your child would stutter.

[emily445455]

There is some loose evidence floating around that perhaps the Nazis did focus some attention on stuttering people so I have been told

It wouldn't surprise me one bit. We do seem a little "freakish" to those who don't understand stuttering (which I doubt Nazi Germany did...).

[chris2112]

Full and happy lives? Maybe mild stutterers, but for those with a strong stutter it is extremely difficult. I just don't think it's right to bring a severe stutterer into this world when you know FOR A FACT that this is something he or she will have to deal with and struggle through. I just couldn't bring my child through it, and it's the same way for certain other diseases, even depression. Someone who KNEW 100% that their child would have severe depression shouldn't be breeding either. It's really for the kids.


There's no stuttering gene known. This is a theoretical discussion about procreating despite knowing for certain that your child would stutter.

This really is a theoretical discussion because no one really knows if stuttering is really inherited. Living a full and happy life is really a matter of perspective, if you arent happy because you stutter, thats just yours. Think about the scientist Steven Hawking. He is completely paralyzed, he can do nothing but twitch his mouth. This does not stop him at all, he still has a remarkable passion for life and discovery and is extreamly successful. Compared to him, severe stuttering is a joke. I think if your unhappy because of your stutter, you might not want to have children, because your children might not only inherit your stutter but your perspective too, and that I think is the real danger.

[Mullen]

My father had a severe stutter. One of my early childhood memories is that of my older brother who is fluent joining the cub scouts. I still remember the excitement of it all, his enthusiasm in going to the JCPenney store to buy the uniform, having his picture taken with my father to commemorate the event, the pleasure my father took in just being a father.

They lasted one meeting. Neither one of them said what actually happened: my brother was too stoical, my father too ashamed to explain why neither one of them wanted to go back.

There's more to not wanting to have children than the fear of passing on a bad gene.

[chris2112]

My father had a severe stutter. One of my early childhood memories is that of my older brother who is fluent joining the cub scouts. I still remember the excitement of it all, his enthusiasm in going to the JCPenney store to buy the uniform, having his picture taken with my father to commemorate the event, the pleasure my father took in just being a father.

They lasted one meeting. Neither one of them said what actually happened: my brother was too stoical, my father too ashamed to explain why neither one of them wanted to go back.

There's more to not wanting to have children than the fear of passing on a bad gene.

What do you think happend?

[thaddeus]

Hello to Claragazza and Violet

I wasn’t going to comment on what Claragazza said but it got me thinking.
There’s many disputes on what causes stuttering from vaccines to it being inherited. But as for vaccines that cant be true stutterings been around longer than vacines.Genes can lie dormant, inactive for years and when the right situation comes they show up and become active. Just because you have one child that stutters doesn’t mean they all will. Different things can effect each pregnancy , each wombing(incubation) isn’t the same.
Genes can effect everything from eye color ,hair color, hair type (curly, straight),weather you have a high risk for high blood pressure or heart disease, so would it be to far fetched to say there’s a stuttering gene?
You might have one child with blue eyes and the rest with brown eyes. Why is that? genes change. Some genes might show up in one child and not in the rest.

Stuttering been around for decades so what’s the one thing people will always pass on? there genes. If stuttering was just an anomaly that happened once every blue moon it wouldn’t be as present as is it.

I might be wrong about some of that im thinking off the top here but most is right.


<B>Hey Violet</b> You made me realize there was something I was wrong about, something I over looked. Im thinking out loud here , stuttering is on my moms side yes but I didn’t go back further enough, actually my grandfathers side stutters, but when you said its impossible for women to pass the gene I realized that she simply got the trait that would inhibit stuttering from her dad my grandfather( what do you think about that?)I think there is deff a stuttering gene and weather it becomes active or not depends on the meshing of the two different peoples genes and traits, and weather one of them has the stuttering gene?Like with me stutterings on my gradfathers side (my moms dad) , I have my moms family traits stronger than my dads family traits her genes must of been more dominant .I have her family temper and some other traits also.

To say women 100% pass the gene is incorrect, but to say they don’t have a role in it at all is wrong its fifty fifty i think.

[BenLZ]

This really is a theoretical discussion because no one really knows if stuttering is really inherited. Living a full and happy life is really a matter of perspective, if you arent happy because you stutter, thats just yours. Think about the scientist Steven Hawking. He is completely paralyzed, he can do nothing but twitch his mouth. This does not stop him at all, he still has a remarkable passion for life and discovery and is extreamly successful. Compared to him, severe stuttering is a joke. I think if your unhappy because of your stutter, you might not want to have children, because your children might not only inherit your stutter but your perspective too, and that I think is the real danger.

Unfortunately, it is not only "my problem." This attitude is shared by countless stutterers, and completely makes sense. This condition is devastating for some of us who are by nature exuberant people, and have been forced into this shell of confinement. A stutter is a major disadvantage in a society that judges people largely by how they speak.

[chris2112]

Unfortunately, it is not only "my problem." This attitude is shared by countless stutterers, and completely makes sense. This condition is devastating for some of us who are by nature exuberant people, and have been forced into this shell of confinement. A stutter is a major disadvantage in a society that judges people largely by how they speak.

This devastating attitude that you talk about usually comes naturally to stutterers, I would know lol. I wouldnt say it makes sense though, whats the point in resenting something you cant change, something that you have to live with whether you like it or not? You can learn to accept what is or you can die having lived an unhappy life, doesnt really matter which one you choose. The point is it is your choice.

[Mullen]

What do you think happend?

It's pointless to speculate on the details of what happened, but it was obviously something that made them feel apart from the rest of the fathers and sons at the meeting.

To my brother's credit he identified himself with my father, and not others.

[chris2112]

It's pointless to speculate on the details of what happened, but it was obviously something that made them feel apart from the rest of the fathers and sons at the meeting.

To my brother's credit he identified himself with my father, and not others.

I imagine that they might of had to introduce themselves and your father stuttered and the other kids laughed or something like that. This is something we need to come to terms with as stutterers, we need to see passed the illusionary importants of being judged by others. He could have gone back in spite of the embarassment and shown your brother that we shouldnt be ashamed of our differences.

[Mullen]

I imagine that they might of had to introduce themselves and your father stuttered and the other kids laughed or something like that. This is something we need to come to terms with as stutterers, we need to see passed the illusionary importants of being judged by others. He could have gone back in spite of the embarassment and shown your brother that we shouldnt be ashamed of our differences.

That's very true; though I don't think my brother would have been too keen on the idea. And frankly I'm not sure how such a strategy would have played out.

From my own experience it isn't as though I stutter before a group of people, then cause them to feel awkward and embarrassed, and then I'm suddenly accepted. There's a subtle nuance of pity (which I find unpleasant), then a forced sociability which never really rings true, and then the relief of being away from the situation. I can hardly fault my father for feeling the same way as I do, if he did.

[chris2112]

That's very true; though I don't think my brother would have been too keen on the idea. And frankly I'm not sure how such a strategy would have played out.

From my own experience it isn't as though I stutter before a group of people, then cause them to feel awkward and embarrassed, and then I'm suddenly accepted. There's a subtle nuance of pity (which I find unpleasant), then a forced sociability which never really rings true, and then the relief of being away from the situation. I can hardly fault my father for feeling the same way as I do, if he did.

I dont blame him either, it is an incredibly difficult situation. I do think if you accept your stuttering and dont seem so awkward and embarrassed in front of people, they wont feel awkward either. Mabye they will be suprised at first but if you dont accept you stutter its almost impossible for someone else to.

[Mullen]

I dont blame him either, it is an incredibly difficult situation. I do think if you accept your stuttering and dont seem so awkward and embarrassed in front of people, they wont feel awkward either. Mabye they will be suprised at first but if you dont accept you stutter its almost impossible for someone else to.

I think the key is to persevere until others see you for who you are.