My Post About Andrew

[stayathomemom]

I give up trying to talk sense into children who do nothing but insult adults and think they are gods gift to the world. There are plenty of people I know who stutter who are not nearly as rude as some people in this forum. I came to this site to meet nice people not get insulted for my personal opinions. To those few friends in here that I made I am glad that I have met you and that you have accepted a non stutterers point of view :confused:

[Bobby]

i think you need to stay out of his life.

you say you dont stutter ? you have no idea what its like for a stutterer.

stop giving andrew a hard time for taking drugs to lessen the effects of stuttering. hes dealing with his problem the best he can.

[Flash]

I think this is getting a little out-of-hand.

You two need to resolve this issue one-on-one through IM'ing (Instant ) rather than trying to talk this through on a forum or PM'ing (Private ) because it's just too slow this way.

While I don't agree with his drug and alcohol use, I think you need to be a little less quick to start judging him. I think you need to be a little more patient. He is going through a difficult time in his his life. I know you've said you have friends who stutter and one really close friend who stutters, but, in my opinion, it's just too hard to understand what a stutterer is actually going through without having experienced it yourself.

[Bobby]

Bobby Mind Your Own Business Your Just A Punk.


you just posted on a public forum, you just made your business public. i was stating what my view was on the situation. and i gave a valid aguement.

and calling me a punk? i would have thought that someone who was older, and more mature would not have to result in calling people things like that.

[Flash]

I wasn't putting words in your mouth. I was stating a fact that you had mentioned many times on this forum which was you saying you had many friends who stutter and one really close friend that stutters.

Just like your entitled to your opinion, i'm entitled to mine and I even used the words "....but, in my opinion,..." in my post above. You're right....I' don't know what you do or do not know, but you have said that you don't stutter so I just feel like you can't comprehend the the entirety and complexity of the whole situation of what it feels to go through on a daily basis of what a stutter goes through. And for the record, the sentence I wrote before was MY OPINION, and I understand that yours will probably be different.

I can see that this is gonne get nowhere quckily.

[Bobby]

well bobby u are a punk !

of course, if you say so, then i must be a punk.

but seriously though, i would have thought that someone who is 14 years older then me(your 32, correct ?) could come up with something a little more mature, and serious for something that is as serious as stuttering.

[Bobby]

Oh my god I see I am dealing with snot nosed kids here I thought your parents taught you to have manners but I guess not.

didnt anyone teach you the use of the comma ? or simple punctuation ?

[stayathomemom]

for those who are under the age of 20 that cant accept someones opinion and have to turn around and fight them or attack them just cause of their posts then maybe this isnt the room for you. Some people appreciate my help, support and understanding.... then there are those who choose to use an escape instead of accepting their situation. But I forgot just because I am not one who stutters I dont know anything so Bobby and Flash cl. It is highly depressing to see that people like Boby and Andrew can be so cold hearted towards someone who is different. Yes I have faced my own challenges of discrimination and hurt and everything else. I may not stutter but that doesnt mean that I can not lend understanding and support to those who do. For those who have chosen to attack me just cause of my honest opinions maybe you should check out http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/stutteringchat/ cause there are people in there just like you who insult people like myself who offer understanding and support.

[Flash]

I'm not sure if this is the right thing to do but I feel like everyone, especially Andrew needs to see the original post before the edit.

Here is stayathomemom's original post before the edit:
Look I don't care if Andrew is mad at me for what I spoke as the truth. He is just an unhappy child who would rather suffer and use methods that could possibly kill him someday or turn him into the things which he hates most at home, but unfortunately he can't seem to see what he is doing is wrong , but Just cause I don't stutter doesn't mean I choose drugs and alcohol as an escape just because my daughter screams and cries. He needs to face life head on and stop being so afraid of what he can not change and learn to accept thigns as they are. However what do I know he's 18 and I am 32 I think I know a little more about life than he does. So I hope the rest of you will not think les of me for speaking my peace about Andrew :confused: :(

[stayathomemom]

Flash You Moron I Told Him Exactly The Same Thing I Said In Here And You Know What I Dont Care What You Or Anyone Else Thinks! Cause He Is An Immature Child! Second Of All My Origional Post Wasnt Meant To Piss Everyone Off In Here Just Like You All Post Frustration And Problems In Here Thats Just What I Did And If You All Cant Accept That Then You Have No Heart At All. Andrew Dumped His Problems On Me And I Offered A Lending Hand And A Shoulder Several Times But He Refused Cause He Was Too Scared. But Hey Flash I Forgot You And Bobby And Andrew Just Want To Turn Everyone Against Me To Make Yourselves Look Good

[stayathomemom]

Guess peoples opinions are just worthless in here I met two people who I thought were friends Andrew and Amit and they refused friendship and support. But there were others who I will keep nameless out of respect who accepted and embraced my support and friendship.

[stayathomemom]

of course, if you say so, then i must be a punk.

but seriously though, i would have thought that someone who is 14 years older then me(your 32, correct ?) could come up with something a little more mature, and serious for something that is as serious as stuttering.


You know what for a 12 yr old you should have more manners.........lol oh wait I forgot you think your gods gift to everyone who stutters

[Andrew]

Ok here's how this started...

She was the first person on this forum who I talked to via IM. She seemed like a nice and caring person... offering help without asking anything in return. I told her I have problems saying a few words and she offered her voice mail # for me to practice which was a nice gesture. I told her I'm a little nervous about that and maybe we can do that in the future. Since then, she's been calling me selfish and coldhearted thru PM.
I tried to be your friend but u have no clue about life or true friends no wonder ur life is ed up!

What's wrong with you? I just signed on Yahoo to see if u were on and u weren't. I'm perscribed a medication for my problem, and it works, I think you should be happy I found a way to help it. I can't say I hope you find help for your stuttering problem because you don't... but best wishes with you and your husband's relationship.

I've been through alot so don't try to hurt my feelings because now is one of the few times my self esteem isnt low.

then...
FINE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BE ON DRUGS THE REST OF YOUR LIFE SO BE IT I TRIED TO BE YOUR FRIEND AND AS ALWAYS YOU SHUT ME OUT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I ATLEAST HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS A LOT OLDER THAT HAS MORE RESPECT FOR ME THAN YOU! HE ATLEAST WELCOMES MY HELP SUPPORT AND ADVICE BUT YOUR ANSWER TO ME NON STOP WAS NO BUT HEY WHATEVER. I AM 32 AND I AM OLD ENOUGH TO SAY WHAT I WANT AND SECOND OF ALL CAUSE OF YOUR ATTITUDE I TOOK YOU OFF MY LIST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE SELFISH AND COLD HEARTED AND NOT LET SOMEONE IN WHO YES DOESNT STUTTER BUT HAS TALKED TO ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO DO TO GIVE THE ADVICE I TRIED TO GIVE U AND THE SUPPORTIVE OFFERS I GAVE BUT HEY SO BE IT. THE ONE PERSON WHO I CARE ABOUT A LOT IS OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR FATHER AND HE WELCOMES MY SUPPORT AND ADVICE AND IS WILLING TO TRY WHAT I OFFER EVEN IF IT IS SCARY AND HARD BUT YOU WANT TO USE NARCOTICS TO MASK YOURS THEN WHY SHOULD I BOTHER OFFERING SUPPORT TO YOU?

Still being patient... I assume she's going through problems at home. I send this reply:
I'm sorry for not calling your voicemail and stuttering on it. I know it probably will help, but I still feel embarrased.

The past few PM's I've sent gave you best wishes with your life and were supportive msg's.

The one's I'm recieving from you are insulting and coldhearted and are ed at hurting my feelings. Stuttering is a embarrasment sometimes I need a escape because things get pretty bad here.

I hope we can still be friends after this, I understand sometimes people have problems and they have to vent on others.

Then she goes to another unrelated thread about Drug Therapy Here (http://www.stutteringforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1376&postcount=15) and divulges my personal life which I trusted her with.

I think stayathomemom is what people call a troll. For those who missed the definition of a internet troll, here it is, from UrbanDictionary.com:
Troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

Her last PM to me was:
OH WELL U REFUSED MY SUPPORT SO PAY BACKS ARFE A !

I'm not saying who's right or wrong, but I'd just like it to stop. I'd rather she insult me via PM than publicly because I have enough problems already and joining this forum was my last resort. :(

UPDATE: What a nice PM from stayathomemom who wants to help stutterers like us.
U ANDREW AND YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SORRY I EVER MADE ANY ING EFFORT TO BE YOUR FRIEND YOU SNOT NOSED DRUGGED ADDICTED STUTTERING LOSER! ATLEAST MY LIFE ISNT ED UP LIKE YOURS.

Does anyone else here see things my way?

[Flash]

I regret ever posting in this thread and getting myself into this. Can't change the past though.

My intentions were not to piss off anyone, to make myself look good, or to make any enemies. I just wanted to give you another view and to say my opinion on this whole matter.

I don't understand why you started to and continued calling people names. Resorting to naming calling is immature and for a person of your age, I thought you would know better. I'm just trying to talk to you like a civilized human being but you seem to be "adding more fuel to the fire" every time you make a new post. I hope you can clam yourself down and talk this over in a nice friendly manner.

I'm not asking for you frirendship, but I am asking for you to respect my opinion and others as well. I respect yours. Now please respect everyone elses.

Edit: I was told to edit my post and make sure people knew that I was referring to stayathomemom.

[Bobby]

You know what for a 12 yr old you should have more manners.........lol oh wait I forgot you think your gods gift to everyone who stutters

you know for a 32 year old, you should be better at maths. 14 years older then me, if your 32.

that means i'm 18

you stupid . get a ing clue

edit:

how can you say i have bad manners, i started off trying to communicate with the level of manners i thought was required. then i get this PM from you.

"KISS MY ASS PUNK!

I swear if I was your mother I would beat your ass so screw you u little F** ing punk! "

just leave. do everyone a favour. just leave.

[Andrew]

I just talked to stayathomemom and it was all a big misunderstanding. We both felt we were right, said some things against eachother, but that's all over now. I appreciate all of you coming to my aid but it turns out we misunderstood eachother and we are friends again now. We're both part of a stuttering forum and this forum is here to help... not hurt. No need for flaming. :)

[stayathomemom]

you know for a 32 year old, you should be better at maths. 14 years older then me, if your 32.

that means i'm 18

you stupid . get a ing clue

edit:

how can you say i have bad manners, i started off trying to communicate with the level of manners i thought was required. then i get this PM from you.

"KISS MY ASS PUNK!

I swear if I was your mother I would beat your ass so screw you u little F** ing punk! "

just leave. do everyone a favour. just leave.


Nope sorry Bobby not gonna give you the satisfaction!

[Bobby]

Nope sorry Bobby not gonna give you the satisfaction!


whatever, i dont give a .

i dont know if your a mother, but if i was your kid, i would consider killing myself if you did any of the stuff you mentioned in the PM's u sent me.

IF I WAS YOUR MOTHER WHICH THANK GOD IM NOT I WOULD BEAT YOUR ASS!

[Andrew]

mv MyPostAboutAndrew FlamingThread

(Only the linux guys/gals r gonna get that 1):confused:

[Standingtall]

This is Standingtall, I'm glad to read that everything is okay now. We all know the purpose of this forum is to encourage each other, even if we stutter or not. I for one, always wanted to know someone that didn't stutter, to get to know me, because I want them to understand. My stutter is the most intimate part of me, it is with me, when I'm awake and use to be when I was sleeping, but I don't have those dreams anymore. I have friends, and they are respectful and one has been with me longer than I know my wife. Stayathomemon just wants to help any way she can and I can see, she is a straight shooter and I respet that. In fact a perfer a straight shooters, because I can be one too. I understand you guys, because I have been there. I use to be a heavy drinker and spent most of my free time in the bars. Mostly to meet women, but I don't seem to stutter in the bar. I soon realize after, I can't hear my own voice because of the music. My bitterness got the better of me and my brothers told me to straighten out or they are going to put me in rehab. So forget about the harsh words to each other, because it is normal human behavior to defend one self, hey we have something in common with the normal speaking world. We all have different lives, so lets all respect that. I'm the oldest of 10 and I'm the only one that stutters. I'm ready to share my experience and read all the wonderful stories, don't feel so lonely, and lets get back to encouraging each other.