View Full Version : Where do people get all the wrong information?
Count
01-25-2009, 11:45 PM
Recently I had to face the following comment by some person on Youtube:
"It's myth that a genius mind could have the 'condition' of stuttering. Temporarily, one could stutter, but as a 'condition', it's a serious problem. It's caused by the altering of perception, effecting the way in which one thinks in various locations of the brain. Trauma can cause stuttering temporarily, until the area of the brain that processed the traumatic input recovers, it may be hard to perceive there, thus thinking gets temporarily redirected. Only DAMAGE causes permanent stuttering."
So, I heard about several geniuses who stutter like Sir Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, Winston Churchill, James Earl Jones etc.
Am I mistaken? I think it's proven that these people had the condition of stuttering.
grantM
01-26-2009, 12:03 AM
There is lots os hear-say and mis-beliefs. Look at the research and look for established and supported trends in outlooks. I have never heard myself that a genius mind could not support stuttering lol.
agantx
01-26-2009, 12:35 AM
In our world people are informed about many disorders and disabilities like being blind or deaf. Unfortunately this is not the case for Stuttering Disorder. Most people don’t know that it even exists. The ones who know often have stereotypes and don’t understand it. They think stuttering is weird since it comes and goes and is made worse by nervousness and stress. Because of all this all of us should do everything we can to raise stuttering awareness and to destroy false stereotypes about stuttering. That’s part of the reason why I started a blog about stuttering recently. I hope my blog will make at least a small difference in this world.
grantM
01-26-2009, 12:39 AM
I Because of all this all of us should do everything we can to raise stuttering awareness and to destroy false stereotypes about stuttering.
Exactly! Hit the nail on the head. Imagine if the 60,000,000+ of us all raised our voices at once and hit the media!
Jamus
01-26-2009, 01:46 AM
"It's myth that a genius mind could have the 'condition' of stuttering.
A person who is labeled a genius does not mean they have the ability to overcome anything in their lives. The stereotype is that PWS are dumb or stupid. PWS and science have long proved that we are as intelligent as anyone else. That's a pretty shallow and ignorant comment made by this person.
grantM
01-26-2009, 02:01 AM
Very much so. I work with some big wigs in Maths who are called geniuses and some of them have very poor hygiene, various social phobias and other nasties lol
Mullen
01-26-2009, 02:02 AM
I find it particularly disconcerting that Wikibooks feels a need to make a connection between serial killing, murder-suicides and stuttering.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Speech-Language_Pathology/Stuttering/Famous_People_Who_Stutter/Serial_Killers_and_Murder-Suicides
It's striking that out of the hundreds, if not thousands, of such cases it is only able to come up with four that actually involve stutterers.
grantM
01-26-2009, 02:21 AM
Yes but in all forms of media stutterers are normally portrayed in a poor light. It is up to us to change things.
Jamus
01-26-2009, 02:43 AM
I think most of the time stuttering is related to being anti-social, or having social phobias that tend to paint them into a corner by society. Being withdrawn.. and therefore not all 'there' or not right in the head. The theroies and stereotypes go on and on unfortunately.
Bill Hargis
01-26-2009, 03:02 PM
I happened to see an old law and order rerun. It showed a very deranged man, a psycopath, and murderer, he stuttered severly. That is only one of the stereotypes that plague a stutterer. Many people think we are merely retarded. Many think it is a source of amustment. Many people are alive because it is illegal to kill them.
JDRow
01-26-2009, 04:14 PM
Considering how many stutterers believe completely false things like that they stutter because of a psychological problem or a childhood trauma, I don't find it at all surprising that the average person who come to wrong conclusions about stuttering.
Mike85
01-26-2009, 07:10 PM
Since even scientists haven't figured out yet what is exactly causing stuttering, its no surprise that there is so many wrong information floating around...
chris2112
01-26-2009, 07:49 PM
I happened to see an old law and order rerun. It showed a very deranged man, a psycopath, and murderer, he stuttered severly. That is only one of the stereotypes that plague a stutterer. Many people think we are merely retarded. Many think it is a source of amustment. Many people are alive because it is illegal to kill them.
lol yeah it is pretty sad how stutters are put in a bad light alot. Whatever happend to porky pig? he was a good man.
grantM
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
Whatever happend to porky pig? he was a good man.
I worry more about his forgotten friend Gabby Goat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabby_Goat)! He was silently snuffed out
chris2112
01-26-2009, 10:44 PM
I worry more about his forgotten friend Gabby Goat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabby_Goat)! He was silently snuffed out
"audiences felt that the goat's behavior was too offensive to be funny."
LOL yeah, a goats offensive, not making fun of stuttering haha
grantM
01-27-2009, 05:20 AM
"audiences felt that the goat's behavior was too offensive to be funny."
LOL yeah, a goats offensive, not making fun of stuttering haha
Man that goat made Mr.T look super soft.
divisi
01-27-2009, 12:01 PM
I find it particularly disconcerting that Wikibooks feels a need to make a connection between serial killing, murder-suicides and stuttering.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Speech-Language_Pathology/Stuttering/Famous_People_Who_Stutter/Serial_Killers_and_Murder-Suicides
It's striking that out of the hundreds, if not thousands, of such cases it is only able to come up with four that actually involve stutterers.
Whenever I quote words from Wikipedia or Wiki-something, I always include a word of caution (something like "beware: quoted from Wikipedia, all cautions apply").
grantM
01-27-2009, 08:34 PM
Actually Wikipedia is normally very accurate with its information and is not fat behind the Encyclopedia Brittanica. More academics are using it to direct students to as a first port of call
Mike85
01-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Actually Wikipedia is normally very accurate with its information and is not fat behind the Encyclopedia Brittanica. More academics are using it to direct students to as a first port of call
On my university Wikipedia doesn't count a reliable source...
Count
01-28-2009, 11:22 AM
On my university Wikipedia doesn't count a reliable source...
But Wikipedia IS a reliable source! If someone adds wrong information to an entry, other people will correct it at once. I've been using Wikipedia for my presentations since 2005 and the info I got there has always been 100% correct. It's the easiest and fastest way to improve your knowledge.
Mike85
01-28-2009, 01:58 PM
But Wikipedia IS a reliable source! If someone adds wrong information to an entry, other people will correct it at once. I've been using Wikipedia for my presentations since 2005 and the info I got there has always been 100% correct. It's the easiest and fastest way to improve your knowledge.
Trying telling that to my teachers hehe. If I make a report and use Wikipedia as source for my information and put it in my sourcelist I will get have to redo it. :(
chris2112
01-28-2009, 03:54 PM
But Wikipedia IS a reliable source! If someone adds wrong information to an entry, other people will correct it at once. I've been using Wikipedia for my presentations since 2005 and the info I got there has always been 100% correct. It's the easiest and fastest way to improve your knowledge.
Wikipedia is usually always correct with science stuff. I have seen some funny untrue things on celebraties though haha.
grantM
01-29-2009, 08:39 PM
The good thing about Wikipedia is that is gives you a very good general understanding and this leads to more established sources
Count
01-29-2009, 09:54 PM
If I make a report and use Wikipedia as source for my information and put it in my sourcelist I will get have to redo it. :(
Why don't you fake your source list? lol
grantM
01-29-2009, 10:05 PM
*KEEPS QUIET* lol
Depends if the marker has time or the interest to check it. Or if they have a deep knowledge of the sources you have quoted
Mike85
01-30-2009, 11:03 AM
Why don't you fake your source list? lol
I usually do that these days. But its not always easy to find the same information that is listed on Wikipedia from another source. ;)
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