Magnesium

[cotton]

Hey all. I'm taking 500mg of Magnesium daily. I'm on my 7th day now and I think it's helping my speech. I had it upped to 750mg and talked to people who I stutter real bad with and they were surprised that I'm 90% stutter-free. (I stutter when I'm mad about something) My friend who went through an expensive speech therapy is relapsing so she's thinking about using magnesium too.

It does have calming effects and makes me a bit sleepy. I slept like a log at night. Magnesium and Calcium works very effectively together. (though I'm only on Mg) As Gary says you can add B vitamins too for enhancements.

It takes 6 weeks to see full results. I'll keep you guys updated.

P.S. St. John's Wort and L-tyrosine increases stuttering.

[Gary1450]

Good job keeping up with the Magnesium - it relaxes your body's muscles so I assume it relaxes your vocal chord muscles as well. Definitely add the B Vitamins.

Be patient.




PS - I'll be answering my PM's, sorry I haven't kept up with that - I've been at meetings, conferences and workshops all this week and it sucks.

[stayathomemom]

Good job keeping up with the Magnesium - it relaxes your body's muscles so I assume it relaxes your vocal chord muscles as well. Definitely add the B Vitamins.

Be patient.




PS - I'll be answering my PM's, sorry I haven't kept up with that - I've been at meetings, conferences and workshops all this week and it sucks.
hang in there Gary it's going to be okay

[Bobby]

Hey all. I'm taking 500mg of Magnesium daily. I'm on my 7th day now and I think it's helping my speech. I had it upped to 750mg and talked to people who I stutter real bad with and they were surprised that I'm 90% stutter-free. (I stutter when I'm mad about something) My friend who went through an expensive speech therapy is relapsing so she's thinking about using magnesium too.

It does have calming effects and makes me a bit sleepy. I slept like a log at night. Magnesium and Calcium works very effectively together. (though I'm only on Mg) As Gary says you can add B vitamins too for enhancements.

It takes 6 weeks to see full results. I'll keep you guys updated.

P.S. St. John's Wort and L-tyrosine increases stuttering.

what side effects does it have. it sounds very interesting

edit: i did some research, doesnt seem to be harmful. i might try some of this as well. they say it can cause diahrea if you take more then 750mgs of it.

[cotton]

what side effects does it have. it sounds very interesting

edit: i did some research, doesnt seem to be harmful. i might try some of this as well. they say it can cause diahrea if you take more then 750mgs of it.

Hi Bobby. I didn't experience any side effects except getting sleepy earlier at night and good sleep. My breaths seem deeper too and my stomach muscles are not as tight. Even the tightness in my back muscles seem loose and not as achy. The anticipatory anxiety before speaking is reduced too, although I don't try to control it psychologically. It makes me feel calm. Today I stuttered when I asked strangers for directions or questions. Then that goes away quickly once I try to be fluent. My friend told me "wow you're not stuttering." Sometimes I would stutter so bad with him I couldn't get any words out while on the phone and had to hang up and email him an apology.

I'm taking 3 x 250mg caplets daily. It is very safe to try, easy to get, and affordable and will probably do you more good than harm since it helps with other problems. But I still don't want to give anyone false hopes.

Here's some info I collected:

"Supplements with a ratio of two parts calcium to one part magnesium are recommended for otherwise healthy individuals treating muscle cramps and aches. Taking calcium along with magnesium may also lessen an overreaction to stress that some research has linked to anxiety and panic attacks. It may take six weeks or more of treatment for effects to be felt."

"Some of the problems that Magnesium supplementation may help are: aging, aggressive behaviour, alcoholism, amytrophic lateral sclerosis, Alzheimer's Disease, Arrhythmia, Asthma, Attention Deficit Disorder, Autism, Cancer, Cerebral Palsy, Cerebrovascular, Chemical Sensitivity, Chronic Fatigue, Cluster Headaches, Cocaine-related Stroke, Constipation, Cramps, Diabetes, Fibromyalgia, Fluoride Toxicity, Head Injuries, Central Nervous System Injureis, Heart-Related Conditions, HIV, Aids, Hypertension, Kidney Stones, Magnesium Deficiency, Menopause, Migraine, Mitral Valve Prolapse, Multiple Sclerosis, Nystagmus, Osteoporosis, Peripheral vascular disease, Pregnancy-relate proglems, Eclampsi, Premenstrual Syndrome, Psychiatric Disorders, Repetitive Strain Injury, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Sickle Cell Disease, SIDS, Sports-related problems, Stress, Stuttering, Tetanus, Tinnitis, Sound Sensitivity, TMJ, Toxic Shock, Violence"

"Magnesium elimination is increased in people who use alcohol, caffeine or excess sugar, or who take diuretics or birth control pills. "

[marcopolo]

interesting... Magnesium is new news to me... Will try it as well and repost in a few weeks...

mp

[jack83]

This is good news to me! I would like to try this too.

I am confused exactly what is being taken here. Magnesium, Calcium, Vitamin B-6, or all three combined?

I'm looking at the GNC site and found the following products:

Magnesium 500mg, Vitamin B-6 200mg, and one combined Calcium (1,000mg) Magnesium (400mg) Zinc (15mg) and Copper (1mg).

I wasn't able to locate 750mg of Magnesium. Where do you guys find that?

Thanks.

[cotton]

Hi Jack. The dosage you take will be:

Magnesium 800mg and Calcium 1600mg

I doesn't have to be exact numbers. The calcium is double the magnesium.

I take 3 magnesium caplets spread out in a day = in the morning, afternoon, and night. Each caplet is 250mg so that adds up to 750mg a day. You can add a safe dose of B vitamins if you want more calm.

Okay I'm a bit nervous about the way this is going to end. Hope it works for all of us!

BTW I noticed my breathing is deeper. My lungs can fill up more air. I used to get chest pains when climbing up a flight of stairs but I don't get them anymore. Today wasn't such a good fluency day for me. I think it's lack of sleep.

[Gary1450]

I'm also doing well on this vitamin plan.

Let me know of your progress.

[cotton]

Hi Gary! What are you taking now? How are things going?

My stutter gets worse when I'm on antihistamines. I recently found out it also causes stuttering in normal speakers. So I need to stop using that and try zinc.

I talked to a nutritionist about this therapy for stuttering. She said it makes sense since Magnesium reduces muscle contraction. She said it's important to add calcium if I want to see improvements. I haven't done that yet. She says I still need speech therapy. Speech techniques work better now though. We'll see.

[gladius]

Thanks for the post Cotton...

I also was inspired by this and have ordered the 500mg Magnesium. Now I just need some calcium...

Please let us know how it works out for everybody! I will report my results asap.

gladius

[Gary1450]

I take about 400mg of Magnesium twice a day with a B-Complex.

This, in my opinion is the best thing I've tried so far in the many years of searching for relief.

I have felt much better but I think that I haven't felt the true benefit because of my caffeine consumption and occasional drinking which basically robs your body of vitamins and nutrients.

I'm trying to break these bad habits.

[doogle2k]

Hey.How is every1 doing.I hope everything is going well.I was just wondering how exactly the magnesium works cos when I stutter I become really anxious just before so Im wondering does it help anxiety as well..

Another thing...Can you buy these at a local pharmacy or supermarket or just online..If you bought online where did yas purchase.

Thanx so much..I really hope all of us get there.

Just off the topic I met a stutterer last week.She was a friend of my girlfriends.It was the first time I met someone who stuttered in a long time.I was beginning to think I was the only one in my city.She is not the worst stutterer but it is noticeable.Of course when I was talking to her Im as fluent as anything(can never understand that as it was the same as speech therapy in my teens,maybe its because Im more comfortable round them)Anyway shes so bubbly and it doesnt bother her one bit.An inspiration to us all.It doesnt have to ruin our life.I wish every1 all the luck in the world.

[marcopolo]

I take about 400mg of Magnesium twice a day with a B-Complex.

This, in my opinion is the best thing I've tried so far in the many years of searching for relief.

I have felt much better but I think that I haven't felt the true benefit because of my caffeine consumption and occasional drinking which basically robs your body of vitamins and nutrients.

I'm trying to break these bad habits.

Interesting Gary1450... I have the Magnesium but need to purchase the B Complex. I wonder what benefit calcium adds to the mix.

On the Buspar question... I Have found that it actually helps my speech. I'm not sure if it's simply from the the reduction of anxiety or from changes to brain chemicals. Anyone else doing OK with buspar.

MP

[cotton]

Thanks for the post Cotton...

I also was inspired by this and have ordered the 500mg Magnesium. Now I just need some calcium...

Please let us know how it works out for everybody! I will report my results asap.

gladius

I'm looking forward to hearing about your results. Good luck!

[cotton]

I was just wondering how exactly the magnesium works cos when I stutter I become really anxious just before so Im wondering does it help anxiety as well..


doogle, I also become anxious before speaking because I know that I'll stutter. I don't know about you but I get a tingly feeling in my head which precedes speaking. Now I don't get that feeling anymore since taking magnesium. Though I still stutter but that anticipatory anxiety is greatly reduced. Biological or psychological effect? I'm not sure. I think it's both. I feel confident when I speak now.

3 weeks + 5 days
Repetitions are cut down, and blocks are shorter. And I also noticed I'm starting to speak slower. I asked 3 people who knows I stutter the worst with - what they think about my speech? They all said there's a huge improvement. My speech now is comparable to a stutterer on a speech device. They can speak but you notice they struggle. Not everyday is a good day but more good than bad. And I also battle with anxiety and depression. I don't recall having it since starting this therapy. My resting heart rate went from 92 bpm to 76 bpm.

I don't want to get anyone hopes up that is will be the cure. Who knows? Will it be a placebo effect? No one really knows what causes stuttering. I stutter most of my life and if I can speak without fear and having long smooth conversations then I can come back and say yes it's the magnesium working.

Another thing...Can you buy these at a local pharmacy or supermarket or just online..If you bought online where did yas purchase.

I bought mine from vitamins.com
I recently found out magnesium gluconate is a better choice because it's more biologically active. I take magnesium oxide. Remember to take double the calcium if you're going to try it.

[Gary1450]

Article:


Treatments Can Control Stuttering
Nutrition articles

Fitness articles

Medical articles
By DR. MARTIN F. SCHWARTZ
New York University Medical Center
For AP Special Features

A combination of psychological, nutritional and physical techniques can help most stutterers keep their speech problem under control.

There are about 2.4 million stutterers in the United States. Their speech troubles are due to a physiological problem that is triggered by stress.

Studies have shown that under tension, every person focuses on a specific area of the body. For stutterers, that area is the larynx, specifically the muscles that control the vocal cords.

In a stressful situation, these people struggle to speak. Their vocal muscles become locked, and the result is stuttering.

The problem usually arises early in life and can be triggered by such stresses as starting school or acquiring a new baby brother or sister. The more a stutterer stutters, the more the problem becomes entrenched - a "learned struggle behavior."

Nutritional treatment includes testing for foods that trigger tension in an individual. Trigger foods can vary widely from person to person.

In addition, taking calcium, magnesium and vitamin B complex helps many people. So does an herbal preparation used for many years in England and now available here.

Physical treatments concentrate on teaching breathing techniques that unlock laryngeal muscles.

Psychological methods include relaxation techniques and training stutterers to have their listeners prepared for slow, steady speech - another way of reducing stress on the speaker.

Combination therapy for stuttering is available from many hospitals and private practitioners across the country. Information on local treatment availability can be obtained by calling a hot line maintained by the National Center for Stuttering in New York. The number is (800) 221-2483. The center also provides information about local support groups.

Stuttering is never really cured, but it can be kept under control.

The success rate for individuals who stick to these therapies is over 90 percent. But about one individual in three fails to continue the disciplined techniques that are necessary for success.

---

Dr. Martin F. Schwartz is Research Associate Professor of Surgery at New York University School of Medicine.

[cotton]

Thanks for the article Gary! I wonder if we can botox the larynx. I met Dr. Schwartz at a convention, he gave me his book Stutter No More. It does mention vitamin B1 but not magnesium or calcium. Kava Kava is an herbal muscle relaxant. I wonder if that will help. He also brought along a successful patient he treated with a severe stutter. He spoke so smoothly there was no trace of a speech disorder. Dr. Schwartz uses the Passive Airflow Technique. Maybe I'll post his instructions in a new thread later. For me I found it too hard to try on my own. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. I guess you'll need the doc to figure you out.

[studentdoc]

Thanks for the article Gary! I wonder if we can botox the larynx. I met Dr. Schwartz at a convention, he gave me his book Stutter No More. It does mention vitamin B1 but not magnesium or calcium. Kava Kava is an herbal muscle relaxant. I wonder if that will help. He also brought along a successful patient he treated with a severe stutter. He spoke so smoothly there was no trace of a speech disorder. Dr. Schwartz uses the Passive Airflow Technique. Maybe I'll post his instructions in a new thread later. For me I found it too hard to try on my own. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. I guess you'll need the doc to figure you out.
Please share the instructions.

[EddieO]

I have been taking corral calcium for a while now. It's supposed to cause wonders for your health. I guess it's probably about the same as regular calcium.
People were asking about "what does calcium do?"
Calcium helps your body absorb vitamins and minerals as well as medication. It's like your body is absorbibg every bit of what you are taking.
How much B6 is everybody taking?
Thanks,
Eddie

[aKoChiC86]

Yes, I can see magnesium as a cheap and probabble effective way. But this is only temporary right?
One 400mg pill a day is OK, but that makes 365 pills every day for the rest of your life. Or does the body adapt to it and ine the long run elminate/soothen ones stuttering??

[Vermillion]

I just purchased 250mg Magnesium, 500mg Calcium, B-Complex (with 500mg Vitamin C).

Does anyone know what time of the day I should be taking these vitamins?

[Perad]

I just purchased 250mg Magnesium, 500mg Calcium, B-Complex (with 500mg Vitamin C).

Does anyone know what time of the day I should be taking these vitamins?

Read the box, if it says consume with food then have them with dinner. If it doesn't say this then the best time is probably in the morning.

If you take it long term it won't make a difference what time you take it.

This is the first time i have heard of this and after i bit of googling i think i will give it a go.

I have a question, should you consult a doctor before you start taking it? Also where do you get it from, can you get it from a supermarket or have you got to go to a pharmacy?

[Vermillion]

Read the box, if it says consume with food then have them with dinner. If it doesn't say this then the best time is probably in the morning.

If you take it long term it won't make a difference what time you take it.

This is the first time i have heard of this and after i bit of googling i think i will give it a go.

I have a question, should you consult a doctor before you start taking it? Also where do you get it from, can you get it from a supermarket or have you got to go to a pharmacy?

You can get it from any General Nutrition store, drug store, supermarket. I got it from London Drugs in the 'Supplement' section."

I don't think it is important to contact a health professional unless you have a certain problem (heart disease, allergies, kidney probs)

[Perad]

I have been taking corral calcium for a while now. It's supposed to cause wonders for your health. I guess it's probably about the same as regular calcium.

What i have read on the internet is that magnesium interferes with calcium absorbtion. As a result mixing it with a calcium supplement is probably good for you.

Link
http://www.wizardofvitamins.com/science/nutrients/magnesium.asp

Saying that on another site it says that a calcium deficiency can lead to insomnia/anxiety/nervousness.

Link
http://www.acu-cell.com/acn2.html

I also looked into the b-complex. A defiency in this can also lead nervousness etc

Link
http://chetday.com/vitaminbdeficiencies.html

All 3 are linked to nervousness. So the chances of them helping are pretty good. I will be getting myself some of these. I don't think that it will lead to a cure but a good diet can improve almost every aspect of your life. Perhaps it can lead to a big improve in stammering as well.

[Gary1450]

There's lots of ways to help your stuttering indirectly and I'm a big believer in vitamins, especially Magnesium and the B-complex.

[737]

So its been a while...

Any feedback with results of magnesium, calcium and B vitamins???


...or have the people who have tried it had such a success that they don't visit the forum anymore.

[Silent]

I tried magnesium a couple years ago but I overdid it and got nose bleeds. I would take 5 or so effervescent tablets a day.
The recommended 1 tablet a day didn't do anything to my speech.

[stutterpress]

I'm interested in knowing more about Magnesium. In how much time does the effect begin to show? Would like some feedback!

[Stevelaz]

Its been a few years since Cotton started on the Mg, are the effects still working?

[Stevelaz]

Has anyone else tried Magnesium?

What results did you have ?

[yonex]

Is it ok if the calcium has vit. D in it too?

Thanks

[supergeo]

For those interested, I've been taking Magnesium (500 mg) and Calcium (999 mg) a day total for the last 5 weeks or so. So far I've not really noticed a big difference. I should say my stutter is more of the blocking type.

[yonex]

Ive just started taking magnesium, calcium and vit B-12 complex.

the calcium pill has 600 mg + vit D

Ill keep you guys posted

[nate]

I just started taking Cal Mag...Apparently its supposed to help u sleep and is better for u than KLONOPIN. So anyway I took my first pill last night and I slept till 6 am. However...I had the worst freaking night mares , 3 in a freakin row. In one I was a vampire in a comic book and they were trying to stake me, in the second I was screaming for sugar coz one of my babies was hypoglycemic or something, and in the last one I was being chased by something. WTF?
It was really bad.
Anybody have something similar happen???
Nate

[yonex]

I just started taking Cal Mag...Apparently its supposed to help u sleep and is better for u than KLONOPIN. So anyway I took my first pill last night and I slept till 6 am. However...I had the worst freaking night mares , 3 in a freakin row. In one I was a vampire in a comic book and they were trying to stake me, in the second I was screaming for sugar coz one of my babies was hypoglycemic or something, and in the last one I was being chased by something. WTF?
It was really bad.
Anybody have something similar happen???
Nate

Hey nate that is pretty ed up...whats a hypoglycemic

hmm what amounts are you taking?

The only effects I have had so far is I'm more drowsy....maybe a little bit more relaxed.

[nate]

I stopped.
After 2 more nights i woke up up with a nose bleed. And i dreamt that my babies stuffed toys were alive and were coming for all of us!
I'm done.
Nate

Hypoglycemic is low blood sugar.

[Silent]

I stopped.
After 2 more nights i woke up up with a nose bleed.
I've had that too from overdoing magnesium.

[ratboy]

I stopped too... made my stomach a bit irritated and didn't help my stutter at all. back to the drawing board I guess.
I had said in the past I was interested in zyprexa; tried it, didn't help ME -they do say it helps about 1/3 of us. You guys might want to try it out for yourselves though.

My current fixation is PROPRANOLOL (aka, Inderal):
http://thevoiceinstitute.com/hope.htm
http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster/casestudy/case10.html
http://www.stutteringforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-352.html
http://www.stutteringforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-413.html
http://www.stutteringforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-285.html
http://www.stutteringforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2374
http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/isad6/papers/molt6.html (Press Ctrl+F and type "propranolol")

Medical Journal articles:
Adler L, Leong S, Delgado R. Drug-induced stuttering treated with propranolol. J Clin Psychopharmacol. 1987 Apr;7(2):115-6.
Cocores JA, Dackis CA, Davies RK, Gold MS. Propranolol and stuttering. Am J Psychiatry. 1986 Aug;143(8):1071-2.
Kymissis P, Martin E. Antistuttering medication? J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 1990 Sep;29(5):840.
JP Brady. The pharmacology of stuttering: a critical review. Am J Psychiatry, Oct 1991; 148: 1309 - 1316.

[urbanmermaid]

Personally I take magnesium when i feel im about to get a migraine... I dont have them as often as i used to, probably due to the medication im taking. I normally get them after a really long day or when im tired. I read online that when u have a migraine the level of magnesium is really low and it does indeed relaxes the muscles and helps with anxiety.

[supergeo]

Default Yeap, Mg doesn't help at all... Propranolol?

I've taken propranolol for a couple of months to see if it would help my OCD. Unfortunately it didn't, though there seems to be very little side effects with short term use of the drug, so it's certainly worth a try to see if it helps you.

[Paranoid]

700mg of magnesium + 900mg of calcium + B complex

The calcium is obviously a little higher due to eating cereal and yogurt...

I've been able to control my anxiety and paranoia a lot more, which has in turn lessened the stuttering but then again I am always weary of certain words and how I substitute them to conversation accordingly... ing demented lol:D