Effor and Inderal [Archive] - Stuttering Forum

happy7117

10-27-2005, 10:05 PM

I am currently on Inderal and Effexor for anxiety-depression....

I need to know if they increase stuttering- or make one stutter bad....

I need truthfull facts though!!!!

Some say they do increase stuttering- but it
was only 1 response...

I just wish i knew for a fact if these meds do hurt stuttering???

I would do anything to lessen the talking
trouble as much or little as possible... :) !!

Who knows --the meds may cause alot of
the excess stuttering...

Gary1450

10-27-2005, 10:37 PM

I had a speech therapist that said yes - they do increase stuttering because they raise dopamine levels which is supposed to be bad. Websites say the same thing.

However - I'm on Paxil and have not noticed my stuttering getting worse. In fact I speak more confidently when I'm on it.

Don't know if that helps.

gladius

10-29-2005, 05:31 PM

Lexapro helps my stuttering amazing amounts...Effexor is similar to Lexapro.

I recommend Lexapro to all stutterers. I've been taking it for years - no side effects.

I just recently got a prescription for Inderal LA - can't wait to try it...

Good luck.

gladius

cotton

10-31-2005, 01:47 AM

Hi happy! Still on effexor? If you want to read about the relationship between stuttering and effexor in people here's a google search. It's a bit tedious to look for info but it's here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-04,GGLD:en&q=effexor+stuttering

How was your stuttering before going on effexor?

cotton

10-31-2005, 01:48 AM

happy7117

11-01-2005, 01:05 AM

How was your stuttering before going on effexor?

I don't remember-- but I'm sure it was less nasty
than it is now....

It was inconveniet before the effexor, but now
it's intolerable...

The only thing keeping me sane is the idea
that I am saving up to buy a casa futura aid...

And that I will seriously hurt anyone who dares to mock me---

I've been living with the speech thing too long, and have been to nice to others about it!!!

All the "be patient" stuff does not work for me, and it just makes me more edgy for people to be patient
for garbled speech to be released....

Freaky- i wish people would fill in words for me--
contrary to what that "dont fill in stutters words"----

It's better to fill in words for stutterers then to
pretend to listen, not to respond cause they dont understand ya, and then the stutter person feeling empty inside because they were not being understood--

And the fact that devices to help stutters can
ease pain stuttering peoples feel, and that their too expensive make me or any stutterer sick!!!

To the device sellers: come compassion, they
should be at a cheap price for stutterers who can't take it anymore...

Dr Martin Schwartz relies on that airflow technique--that does not work for me... Ive tried it but it does
not work for me....

And the fluency enhancer he markets only works with that slow start: on the theory that stuttering is caused by locked vocal chords....

I stutter- but my vocal chords are not locked
when I do--!!! So his theory does not apply to me......

The reason i stutter is cause I cannot hear a second voice speaking in unison along with me!!!!

The fluency enhancer does not provide that second voice!!!!!

But the fluency master from dr jeff felixbrod provides that second voice for me to focus on to help me talk slower which in turn reduces stuttering-- its in the form of a soft buzzing noise to emulate vocal chord vibration....as long as i can focus on that buzzing noise from the fluency master I should be fine...and the fact i dont have money for it is not fine...

But because of the 2,300 price tag it's out of my range....

That's what i need- but dont have the money
for....

cotton

11-01-2005, 04:31 PM

happy7117

11-01-2005, 08:01 PM

Get off the effexor! On the scale of 1 to 10 it made me into a 9 when I'm usually a 4-7. (now I'm a 1-2) I KNOW for SURE effexor is making it worse. What are you taking it for?

I'm not against using speech devices but what will happen if you paid so much for a speech device which only works temporarily? How long will the results last? Do you suppose it's better to try speech therapy? If you relapse there are programs which offers refresher courses. I don't think you can refresh with a device.

Can't you take out credit card loans?

For the Effexor question---- I am taking it for anxiety
and depression-- and I think the anxiety and depression stems from all the pain of the stuttering...

Sure there are aids that work temporarily- so
it offers me a taste of reduced stuttering which is what i really want!!! Not a fix-- a REDUCTION....!!!

As for the Fluency Master-- that cls to
not lose effectiveness- and the results last..the
only thing needed are batteries to keep it going...

For the fluency enhancer the results are very
temporay-- when in background noise it
is hard to hear your own voice, and worse- I cannot hear my own voice when I use it...

As for the following question:: Do you suppose it's better to try speech therapy? ... whoo boy!!!

Plenty -it did not work at all for me-- no matter
how much i tried to apply the techniques outside in real-time situations--it just did not work-- because
my mind is keeping up with the conversation and the going on arounds me---it sounds very drone like-
and dull-and it sounds very fake....they even refused to try delayed feedback with me-- that was what would have helped me-- but they refused after I requested....!!! And i went to one of those intensive 4 week programs-- came home expertly fluent-- but alas 3 months later the fluency crashed crashed--
and the stuttering came back with a deadly
vengence... I hit rock bottom depression cause
of it-- and was pulled out of school for home tutoring...that fluency freedom was the most exhilariting feeling ever-- and when it went buy buy---i was a stuttering monster-- probably the stuttering
was locked up behind that super clear speec and was waiting to creep out...

If you relapse there are programs which offers refresher courses

In reguards to the above- i tried the above
refresher course for the 4 week course- it did not do anything because the techniques were already lost...
and the refresher was 2 short days....

I don't think you can refresh with a device.

Very well could be true- that's why we have to keep
on getting more devices to maintain reduced stuttering...or send the device back --to get fixed....

Can't you take out credit card loans??

I dont know what a credit card loan is but,
we (my father and I) took out a money loan from the bank to pay for the fluency enhancer...god I'm still having to pay back this ugly loan even when it quit
working.....!!!

It makes me so mad about the enhancer deal--it
looked promising- then it blows up in my face after 2 weeks....

Note for Dr Schwarts

Oh the airflow technique works for some people
but not all people-- and not for me..

Oh yeah-- Dr Schwartz also blames the device
not working on the stutterer because the stutterer
has not practiced the air flow technique....

Well for some the air flow technique may not work
because the lips and jaw tighten up- and no sound comes out....!!! In my case!!!!! :mad:

cotton

11-04-2005, 04:45 PM

What are the estimated success rates for the speech therapies you went through? What problem areas did they focus on? Larynx, jaw muscles, breathing....?

I knew a stutterer who tried the Airflow therapy with Dr. Schwartz but it didn't work out. He went for Hollins and is stutter free even after a few years. Look up Hollins. From what I hear it sounds promising. The astronaut John Glenn took his wife there and other celebrities too. It also addresses your lip and jaw muscles and other factors involved. I heard from a friend that Hollins lowered their costs.

I don't want to sound like a salesperson here. There are statistics to compare with.

why? why? why are you still on effexor?? I had anxiety problems too and there's so many meds for it you can try out. Why are you sticking with something that makes your stutter worse?

happy7117

11-04-2005, 09:00 PM

Actually-- the only reason why I can't get oiff the effexor is cause my parents need to check with the docter who prescribed the stuff....the only thing from
stopping me from getting off this effexor
posion is the doctors and parents permission....

Indeed I'm infuriated that I'm not already off
this poison, but word has to come from the doctor...

I'm actually thinking of quiting cold turkey- and have been thinking that for months now----

But I don't want to mess up my body....

Oh and also-- the airflow does not work for me either..so Dr Schwartz cls are not
entirely true.....!!!!

I could try hollins but the price is probably in the thousands which i cant afford-- like all the other therapy intense programs are----in thousands...

I attened the Starbuck Fluency Clinic in Geneso,
NY-- and it's pretty much your standard 4-week
intnesive therapy program....we tackeled everything
imaginable to help stuttering:::

Breathing, facial contortions, easing into words,
gentle contacts-- pull-outs--inteviews, telephones,
i pressure situations, speeches, but
after 4 months from after the clinic ended-
the stuttering returned as nasty as it was before I went to the clinic...

They say one has to consciously apply these
speaking strategies accurately and consistently every time you open your mouth... and it's literaly impossible because it's not spontaneous, and it's very
abnormal-- and one cannot consciously think of these skills every mintue of our life...so we
naturaly revert to stuttering and the foolisihness that goes with it....

Oh yeah-- do you suggest i quit taking effexor cold turkey-- or wait for that dumb's doctors
permission witch could take weeks or month... frankly
I want to just stop taking the effexor without having to see a doctor- but I'd probably end up
getting very sick...but then again it's killing my talking...

gladius

11-04-2005, 09:22 PM

Replying to past post, I still take the Lexapro everyday and I love it, 20mg in the morning. The Inderal LA has no complications with Lexapro. I'm very excited...

gladius

cotton

11-04-2005, 09:24 PM

I find it unnatural too even though I was told I sounded better - but I prefer to stutter! I think a large part of stuttering is to do with how we feel about ourselves when we talk. I heard that recovered stutterers are trained how to consciously use their speech muscles and master it -- they can switch their stutter off and on and it soon feels natural.

Oh yeah-- do you suggest i quit taking effexor cold turkey-- or wait for that dumb's doctors
permission witch could take weeks or month... frankly I want to just stop taking the effexor without having to see a doctor- but I'd probably end up
getting very sick...but then again it's killing my talking...

Don't go cold turkey! It'll drive you nuts. You'll need to wean off little by little. There are some people who go off effexor by themselves without doc's permission. If you're taking a large dose, you'll be probably put on another med like a SSRI while weaning off to prevent shock and reduce the withdrawal symptoms. If you do want to wean off by yourself it's best to ask an anxiety/depression board and get as many answers as possible. I've weaned myself off all my psych meds -- even with a small dose -- let me tell you it's no fun!

happy7117

11-04-2005, 09:46 PM

gladius

11-04-2005, 09:54 PM

I highly recommned Lexapro - it improved my anxiety and stuttering significantly with no side effects.

gladius

JustinH

01-28-2011, 05:38 PM

What about this Lexapro im hearing such good things about!!!!

There is also Progoclone as part of that research study being done....

Lot's off options-- but im willing to go for anything!!!

This is inspring me to get better- and make that change sooner than later!!!!

Lexapro is the patent extender drug that roots from Celexa. They put more active ingredient in it, and call the new drug Lexapro (and give it a premium price).

If cost is no option or insurance is paying the bulk of the medication, then try lexapro.

Celexa is dirt cheap, I think 20mg of celexa is on the $4/month walmart prescription plan. The generic is called Ciatalopram.

I have been on 20mg celexa for about 8 weeks now, and it has helped my social anxiety somewhat. It does not improve stuttering or worsen it.. I'm going to try 30mg or 40mg next and see what that does.

mike2009

03-21-2011, 04:45 PM

I've taken Zoloft, Lexapro and Celexa, each for about a 2-3 year stretch. No change in my stuttering, although I was generally more relaxed and focused. Horrific weight gain (40+ lbs) within a few months of going on each of them, however.

I've also tried Risperdal (no effect on my stuttering) and Inderal (likewise, no effect)