Anyone ever use Bravina?

[Jaykon]

Anyone ever use Bravina? its marketed as a stress reducer for public speaking anxiety... thoughts?

http://www.bravina.com/

[Jaykon]

....guess not, haha

[emily445455]

I don't take pills for stuttering. :)

[Jaykon]

so you wouldn't take Pagoclone then correct?

[emily445455]

so you wouldn't take Pagoclone then correct?

Correct. :)

[Jaykon]

alright, rock n roll Emily!

I'd take it, but I'm down with your decisiveness!

[StutteringJack]

Jaykon,

I agree that you should remain open minded with all things that can helf alleviate YOUR problem. There are good arguments either way as to whether a medication should be taken or not. All people experience both the physical and mental side of stuttering differently and everyone has a differing opinion about all aspects of speaking anxiety and stuttering treatment. I know a lot of people who have benefited from using a medication to reduce thier anxiety level so although I do not take medications for stuttering myself (I use a technique) I would never discourage someone form experimenting. Some of these drugs do have some side effects and can be expensive if taken over a long period but there are some like this that you do not take all the time. It is for anxiety only where as Pagoclone will also assist in reducing the intensity of the blocks. I have tried Inderal which is taken by a lot of "normal speakers" who have to make a public presentation. They take it half and hour before the presentation and it is designed to reduce anxiety. If the drug does have a positive effect but does not agree with your system then try another one that is similar. Finally, I would like to agree with what Emily is implying and that is that medications like this should be used as a last resort, but if it works, it beats blocking and stuttering and its associatied anxiety.

[Keyo]

i dont use Drugs for stuttering.. or in other words, i try to avoid them... i believe in natural therapy as a cure for stuttering.. not in chemical... thats my own oppinion.. but well, when Pagoclone comes out, who knows.. maybe i'll give it a try someday but that wont be like a permanent treatment for me.. maybe for a couple of times not more.

[JFan]

my feeling is is there is something out there that possibly can help you....why would you NOT try it???? Just my 2 cents.

[emily445455]

my feeling is is there is something out there that possibly can help you....why would you NOT try it???? Just my 2 cents.

Personally, I wouldn't do it for several reasons. 1) Side affects. 2) I don't like taken daily pills (except vitamins). I don't know the long term affects it may have on my body. 3) I believe God allowed me to have a stutter for a specific reason. What that reason is I'm not sure.

[Keyo]

Personally, I wouldn't do it for several reasons. 1) Side affects. 2) I don't like taken daily pills (except vitamins). I don't know the long term affects it may have on my body. 3) I believe God allowed me to have a stutter for a specific reason. What that reason is I'm not sure.

Couldn't agree more... :cool:

[StutteringJack]

Personally, I wouldn't do it for several reasons. 1) Side affects. 2) I don't like taken daily pills (except vitamins). I don't know the long term affects it may have on my body. 3) I believe God allowed me to have a stutter for a specific reason. What that reason is I'm not sure.

Well some people would choose the medications to help with their stuttering because the stuttering has: 1) Side effects 2) They don't like taking daily stuttering. They know the long term affects it may have on their personality. 3) Maybe people feel they have learned the lesson that God wanted them to learn from their stuttering and now he has brought them to Pagoclone (if it works). You may say it is the lesser of two evils.

[Thomkatt]

I agree with that one. Thank God for sending pagoclone.

[emily445455]

Well some people would choose the medications to help with their stuttering because the stuttering has: 1) Side effects 2) They don't like taking daily stuttering. They know the long term affects it may have on their personality. 3) Maybe people feel they have learned the lesson that God wanted them to learn from their stuttering and now he has brought them to Pagoclone (if it works). You may say it is the lesser of two evils.

Ok...I never said it was bad to take it. I just never would.

[Jaykon]

To each their own, no?

[urbanmermaid]

Well some people would choose the medications to help with their stuttering because the stuttering has: 1) Side effects 2) They don't like taking daily stuttering. They know the long term affects it may have on their personality. 3) Maybe people feel they have learned the lesson that God wanted them to learn from their stuttering and now he has brought them to Pagoclone (if it works). You may say it is the lesser of two evils.

Couldn't agree more. Sometimes its amazing how people try to explain absolutely everything with god...........

[emily445455]

Sometimes its amazing to me how whenever I mention God everyone's panties get bunched up .........

[Keyo]

exactly Emily... i dont wanna go offtopic here talking about god coz i know not all people believe in that... but for those who does, they should at least think a little bit wisely considering that there is someone up there who gave us that ''gift'' (thats what i would call it) and differentiated us from all the people allover the world... he sure did that for some reason we even dont know, its just beyond our level of thinking...

[JFan]

Basically Emily...we all get it that you're a God/Jesus freak..... and it gets old seeing almost all your replies deal with God/Jesus. I think it's great that you feel to close to God/Jesus, and your religion.... but maybe try a few posting minus them...

[Jaykon]

exactly Emily... i dont wanna go offtopic here talking about god coz i know not all people believe in that... but for those who does, they should at least think a little bit wisely considering that there is someone up there who gave us that ''gift'' (thats what i would call it) and differentiated us from all the people allover the world... he sure did that for some reason we even dont know, its just beyond our level of thinking...

A gift? I think thats pushing it in my opinion... if stuttering is a 'gift' from God, I hope the receipts in the bag.

It's like a therapist I know says: "Stuttering is ok. I would just like to stutter less". I mean, I personally need to come to terms with the fact that I am a stutter and not deny it, but it would be nice to be able to stutter less and have a bit more control over speaking situations.

[peebee]

Sometimes its amazing to me how whenever I mention God everyone's panties get bunched up .........

I certainly agree with you on your first two points.. I've never taken a pill to help my stuttering too, but by saying you believe god gave you a stutter sounds ridiculous to someone who doesn't believe in god.

The reason people get upset when you mention god is because atheists believe in Evolution. Since there's no evidence god actually exists, you may as well say "I don't believe in taking pills for my stuttering because if I do a leprachaun will jump out of the mirror and rip out my heart". In the mind of an atheist, there's no difference between the two because both are equally implausible to them.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with believing in god, just trying to articulate to you how other people interpret your statement... i think it's great you're so devoted, but usually when people ask a question, they want examples or some kind of logical explanation for an answer... By relating an answer to a question with god is like me saying 2+2=5000

[emily445455]

but maybe try a few posting minus them...

I write many posts without menitoning anything on that topic.

[emily445455]

peebee, I gave two "logical" explinations. The third was my own personal belief. I am entitled to have it...what I don't understand is I get attacked when I mention it, yet others don't get attacked for mentioning their beliefs.

[JFan]

[QUOTE=Jaykon;36905]A gift? I think thats pushing it in my opinion... if stuttering is a 'gift' from God, I hope the receipts in the bag.

I like!!!!

[Thomkatt]

Hey Emily, If you want to mention God/Jesus maybe start threads about religion and let others join in that so choose. Just throwing religion in out of left field constantly makes you seem arrogant and a bit annoying. Notice that this thread had nothing to do with religion.

[emily445455]

I don't think stuttering is a gift from God. I never said that :)

[SpeedyRalph]

so has anybody used it or not, I don't think the thread was started to get peoples views on dependencies...

[emily445455]

Hey Emily, If you want to mention God/Jesus maybe start threads about religion and let others join in that so choose. Just throwing religion in out of left field constantly makes you seem arrogant and a bit annoying. Notice that this thread had nothing to do with religion.

No thanks...I don't want to be responsible for that kind of mess.

All I did was mention the reasons why I personally wouldn't take a drug for my stuttering. Others made comments about it. I didn't start anything.

[urbanmermaid]

I certainly agree with you on your first two points.. I've never taken a pill to help my stuttering too, but by saying you believe god gave you a stutter sounds ridiculous to someone who doesn't believe in god.

The reason people get upset when you mention god is because atheists believe in Evolution. Since there's no evidence god actually exists, you may as well say "I don't believe in taking pills for my stuttering because if I do a leprachaun will jump out of the mirror and rip out my heart". In the mind of an atheist, there's no difference between the two because both are equally implausible to them.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with believing in god, just trying to articulate to you how other people interpret your statement... i think it's great you're so devoted, but usually when people ask a question, they want examples or some kind of logical explanation for an answer... By relating an answer to a question with god is like me saying 2+2=5000

What has stuttering to do with God? I'm a firm believer in God but not to the extent of thinking that he/she/it/whatever makes people stutter on purpose because thats a bit far fetched. What should I believe next? That God sits all day behind his desk deciding who should stutter and who shouldnt?
Is autism or schitzophrenia a gift from God? Because "maybe they're there for a reason"?

[Keyo]

Guys.. Emily was just saying her oppinion about something and she's entitled to have it.. whats all the big fuss about??

[emily445455]

Thanks Keyo. I don't get it either.

[TheMan56]

Couldn't agree more. Sometimes its amazing how people try to explain absolutely everything with god...........

Exactly, I personally think this whole argument that " God made me with a stutter for a reason" is utter BS. Shit happens, and unforntunately we ended up with this curse.

[Jaykon]

this thread got real lame real fast...