Herbal alternatives to xanax and other medications

[Old Gill]

Ive been told by some people that drinking camomile tea helps them relax and stammer less. In the past week Ive been trying st johns worts which although doesnt really stop me stammering it does make me care less/feel better about it which i suppose is a result in itself.

Ive also just ordered some GABA tablets to see how these go with adressing anxiety. anyone else try herbal remedies? (ive also tried kalms which seem to help a bit)

[Box of Clocks]

Never tried the camomile tea so I'm not sure how effective that would be.

I have been using Oatstraw/Avena Sativa and Passionflower liquid extract on advice from a stuttering poster on another forum. So far I haven't noticed all that much of a difference but it is early days.

[Thecoherentman]

Cha De Burge, Rhodiola Rosa, Avena Sativa, and Epimedium each individually has positive immediate result as they improve confidence and capacity for active pleasure (motivating.)
Anything that improves confidence and does not reduce alertness will have short and long term positive results. Stuttering is a lack of empowerment to either go ahead and talk or to stay silent. Anything that increases your courage to talk or increases your courage to keep silent will reduce your stuttering. Anything that reduces your ability to focus and be vigilant and make it easier for you to distract yourself may first appear helping short term, but you pay the price long term. Sedative herbs are not good unless you are taking them for other problems.

[Old Gill]

Cha De Burge, Rhodiola Rosa, Avena Sativa, and Epimedium each individually has positive immediate result as they improve confidence and capacity for active pleasure (motivating.)
Anything that improves confidence and does not reduce alertness will have short and long term positive results. Stuttering is a lack of empowerment to either go ahead and talk or to stay silent. Anything that increases your courage to talk or increases your courage to keep silent will reduce your stuttering. Anything that reduces your ability to focus and be vigilant and make it easier for you to distract yourself may first appear helping short term, but you pay the price long term. Sedative herbs are not good unless you are taking them for other problems.

thanks..thats very good advice

[shansra11]

Thecoherentman, are the herbs you listed good? Meaning do they also have a long term benefit, as you said good remedies should have?

[Millerboy]

I wouldn't take GABA. I heard it increases HGH (human growth hormone) in your body. I took Kava kava, Calms Forte, Similasan Anxiety Relief, Bach's Rescue Remedy (Stress Formula), St. John's Wort, 5-HTP, and others, but they don't seem to help me stop stuttering.

St. John's Wort and 5-HTP only calmed my body down, so I was physically calm, but I still stuttered. The others like Calms Forte made me sleepy, but still stuttered. I don't know if I had a reaction with Kava kava, GABA, or Bach's Rescue Remedy because I also take prescription drugs too, so I can't tell if it's working or not.

Bach's Rescue Remedy made me very sleepy.

[Stevelaz]

Cha De Burge, Rhodiola Rosa, Avena Sativa, and Epimedium each individually has positive immediate result as they improve confidence and capacity for active pleasure (motivating.)
Anything that improves confidence and does not reduce alertness will have short and long term positive results. Stuttering is a lack of empowerment to either go ahead and talk or to stay silent. Anything that increases your courage to talk or increases your courage to keep silent will reduce your stuttering. Anything that reduces your ability to focus and be vigilant and make it easier for you to distract yourself may first appear helping short term, but you pay the price long term. Sedative herbs are not good unless you are taking them for other problems.

Hi,

Do You use any of these products?.......have they worked on you or others that you know or is it theoretical that they 'should' work?

What methods are you using to control your stutter?

What type of stutter do you have?

Just curious where you are coming from with the advice that you give.

Thanks

[Thecoherentman]

Thecoherentman, are the herbs you listed good? Meaning do they also have a long term benefit, as you said good remedies should have?

These herbs tend to increase your sensitivity, vigilance, and perceived power and boldness. If you use this power and courage to better monitor what you are doing when you are speaking, then these herbs have big positive long term effect. If you use the courage to go ahead and speak then big positive effect. If you use the courage to experiment with various easy way of stuttering, then big positive effect. If you use the courage to be silent and use body language of power, then big positive effect.
If you use the courage to be coward, then there will be some bad learning. If you use the extra power to control your speaking movements then you learn more bad things. If you use the extra power to speak faster and distract yourself faster, then bad long term effect. If you use the courage to force through blocks and never surrender then long term negative effect.
In any case you must use the minimum amount of these herbs on daily basis and only when you think you need a boost. And better that you experiment with them, understand the effect, and reproduce the effect in your mind without using them. They are potent drugs and must be treated as such.

Sedative herbs and drugs have bad long term effect unless if they are used in emergency. Valerian, passion flower, like Xanax but in much less effectiveness reduce your sensitivity to pain, even pain of guilt, shyness and shame. You may get immediate fluency as your inhibitions are reduced. Like arthritis sufferer who get better movements from taking aspirin. But also they may have negative immediate effect because they can drain your will to speak. Long term sedatives have bad effect because brain is aggressively adaptive against anything that degrades sensitivity to pain. After adaptation for example to Xanax, many sort of pains that did not bother you earlier will start to appear and you will need more Xanax to deal with them. However if some one uses Xanax for days that he must talk in situations that without avoidance and blocking and distraction speaking will not be possible. In this case xanax will reduce the learning of bad things and in this way it is positive. Amnesia that xanax gives is good if you have to use your bad habits.

Stutterers must understand that the reason they use stuttering is because otherwise it is harder to talk. Always correct way of speaking for future fluency needs compromise of your liberty to use your stuttering tricks. If you have a job interview that may improve your life for years to come, then this is not the time to improve speech. You may take the herbs I mentioned and still go ahead and talk the stuttering way you are familiar with, but with more energy.

[Thecoherentman]

Hi,

Do You use any of these products?.......have they worked on you or others that you know or is it theoretical that they 'should' work?

What methods are you using to control your stutter?

What type of stutter do you have?

Just curious where you are coming from with the advice that you give.

Thanks

I use them off and on. They have worked on me and also on others.
There are other readily available supplements that work even better, but using them needs accurate timing, otherwise they may cause harm.

I do not try to control my stutter. I always observe my own observing, feel my own feeling, think my own thinking. By seeing carefully myself in act of stuttering the stuttering turns into a small poppy under my command. I have a quite spacey mind and never mind perfect anything much less perfect fluency.
My stuttering in my youth until 25 was the worst kind I have ever seen and I have seen many stutterers speaking. As student I worked in a university clinic as research assistance with a psychologist who treated stuttering.

My stutter is not a problem for me any more. However, I stutter and use the messages I hear from my stuttering to guide me in professional and personal daily life. For me the stuttering is a way to probe my subconscious mind. Also, I use it as an excuse to avoid ceremonial and official talking duties that I see waste of time and deceiving to myself. I have education in mathematics, physics and engineering. I manage a small high tech company with about 50 engineers. One of our projects called "The Coherent Machine" is about applying fundamental AI for image understanding. So, I come from where that there is no value for such words that must end with words. If there is no practical results, then words are useless and even evil.