A great way to try DAF!!!

[happy7117]

Fiddeling around today on the sound
recorder application on my computer,
I wanted to hear myself sound how I sound
stuttering..

So I clicked on the little Red Circle to record,
I said something into the microphone...I clicked
on the red square that means stop... and then
I clicked the arrow button in the middle to play it back to me so I could hear what I just said...

Unbelievable but true, it sounded exactly
like delayed auditory feedback when I
played it back, but the only difference was, I was able to control when I wanted to hear my own voice...

And I felt very confident in hearing that second voice which was mine in the headphones being played back to me...I reccomend anyone to try this experiment...

You must have Sound Recorder on your computer, and a set of headphones, the only thing the sound recorder did not have is a FAF switch...but
I highly reccomend one to try this experiment...

Go to Start on the Task Bar, click on Programs,
click on Accesories, click on Entertainment,
then click on Sound Recorder...

If anyone has used sound recorder before, they know how to use it.....all this experiement is is recording
your own voice, and playing it back a few seconds
later so you can hear it......and talk along with it!!

That's the kind of aid I need!!! Something where
I can record my voice, and then play it back to me a few second later....

[Perad]

Can i ask the benefit of this though? Apart from becoming comfortable with your voice and getting used to what you sound like?

[dave]

There would be no benefit. If anything it would make your speech worse in those situations. I know most of us have 90-99% fluency by ourselves. If you never had fluent speech before it probably would condition the muscles in your throat for fluent speech.

I don't really like the sound of my voice, my last girlfriend and a few of her friends said I have a beautiful voice. I guess I sound alright.

Most Creative Labs mp3 players have voice recorders with built in microphones. The apple iPods don't have this feature. I've done that before with presentations at school. Even if you play music in one ear it would block your voice out and you can hear other people singing (starting words) making it bit easier.

[happy7117]

I like hearing anyone's opinions weather good or bad!!
It's strange how you said we have 90-99%
by ourselves!! I wish that were true with me!!!!

I'm not sure if this is completely right, but
when I speak anytime, I am unable to HEAR what I am saying when I am saying it...

I think hearing one's voice as one's speaks
is very important in knowing how we want to
sound to others...

And as far as playing in music in one ear
so one cannot hear his-her own voice, I would
think of that as a masking efect--if a stutterer
cannot hear his own voice as he -she speaks,
they might be more fluent....

The sound recorder lets me hear myself
and my own voice.. and when I am out and about,
I am unable to hear what I am saying when I speak to others!!!

Sorry - if im confusing anyone--but I have no easy way of explaining this!!

[Vermillion]

I'm not sure if this is completely right, but
when I speak anytime, I am unable to HEAR what I am saying when I am saying it...


That's strange. You can't hear your own voice when you talk outoud? Even when you speak outloud to youself?

I can hear my own voice.

[happy7117]

Honestly I am unable to concentrate on what I am saying as I am saying it....I think I would stutter a little less, if I was better able to hear my voice echoed which i cannot--

[dave]

I know what you mean by not being able to hear your voice. But hearing is a contributing factor to stuttering. You should get your hearing checked out. Like when I get an ear infection i don't stutter as much and then I adjust and revert back. And when the infection goes away I don't stutter as much and I revert back.

Happy- Take a few hours out of the day to practice your speech and you should see a dramatic increase in your fluency especially alone. It won't happen immediately though. I'm 100% sure stuttering is basically an anxiety problem created by a chemical imbalance.

[happy7117]

I know what you mean by not being able to hear your voice. But hearing is a contributing factor to stuttering. You should get your hearing checked out. Like when I get an ear infection i don't stutter as much and then I adjust and revert back. And when the infection goes away I don't stutter as much and I revert back.

Happy- Take a few hours out of the day to practice your speech and you should see a dramatic increase in your fluency especially alone. It won't happen immediately though. I'm 100% sure stuttering is basically an anxiety problem created by a chemical imbalance.

I always thought how stutterers hear themselves
contributes to the amount of stuttering!!! That's
where DAF comes into play!! If we can hear our own voice delayed we stutter less...but what if we canot
hear our own voice at all!!! That's the problem!!

As for chemical imbalance--- I wonder
if medicine like Effexor and Inderal (which I'm on
both now for anxiety-depression) makes
the stuttering worse than it should be it!!

[Perad]

You would think that anti-anxiety medicine would actually help your speech, but if it is still getting worse you might want to come off it.

I can hear my voice and because my gf has infected me with some devil virus i sound like shit. Everyone can, what you hear sounds different to what other people hear because your ear picks up on vibrations coming from your voice box.

When you are by yourself just speak and you will hear it, if you can't then you might be deaf. :rolleyes:

[tdk]

Artefactsoft's DAF/FAF Assistant (http://www.artefactsoft.com/) can be downloaded for a free 7-day trial.

[ferramis]

Did anyone of you tried any of the available DAF softwares for pocket pcs? Would be nice to get some review on it.

[edsandri]

Artefactsoft's DAF/FAF Assistant (http://www.artefactsoft.com/) can be downloaded for a free 7-day trial.

This works for me on phone calls. It's inexpensive (I think $19) and a great way to try DAF.

[edsandri]

I purchased an Ipod Touch and earpods with a mic. This gives a good DAF (delayed altered feedback) much like the SpeechEasy and other much more expensive equipment. Can be used for practice and making phone calls with the earplug in one year and using the phone with the other ear. I downloaded the software for $9.99 from iTunes.

[amey]

There seems to be a problem with the auditory feedback loop in a stutterers hearing. That stutterers are not hearing themselves correctly. This has been a theory too, you are correct!

[Rich]

As for chemical imbalance--- I wonder
if medicine like Effexor and Inderal (which I'm on
both now for anxiety-depression) makes
the stuttering worse than it should be it!!

Not sure what those drugs do but I know that things like Prozac and St. John’s wort tend to make stuttering worse.

[Lbricke1]

sounds pretty cool, nice work!

[happy7117]

There seems to be a problem with the auditory feedback loop in a stutterers hearing. That stutterers are not hearing themselves correctly. This has been a theory too, you are correct!

What is a auditory feedback loop.....???

I always felt that my own profound stuttering is caused by the inabilty to hear myself correctly. That is my own thoughts on why my stuttering is what it is. Others may have their own theories.

I always felt that if I heard some kind of reverb or echo with every sound and word I spoke WITHOUT a device like in real time, the stuttering would deminish for me.

Or if every word I spoke was amplified and send to my ear so I could better hear it as I spoke in real time-that maybe would reduce the problem.

But alas, every time I speak I hear no echo..I hear no reverb and the stutter is profound as a result. I hear no sound of my own voice amplied in my left ear as I speak.

But do explain more about the auditory feedback loop- that sounds interesting.

I strongly believe that DAF or delayed auditory feedback will not work for stutterers who already can't hear their own voice in their left ear as they speak.

I honestly wonder if we are deaf to the sound of our own voice. We can hear everything around us, but we cannot hear our voice as we speak. That's just my speculation.

What I need is a microphone to pick up every sound and word uttered by me, and have everything said by me amplified and played in my left ear simultaneously as I speak it.

I didn't say hear my voice delayed as I speak..I mean have a microphone to pick up the sound of my own voice while at the same time have my voice amplified in my left ear and also blocking out external background noise.