No money to afford a stutter aid---

[happy7117]

No money to afford a stutter aid--
I have been steadily been so waiting
to save up to buy a stutter aid, but they cost so dam much--and my stutter is so nasty-- I
don't what to do---

I HAVE NO PATIENCE with my own stuttering...

Does anybody when they are stuttering
give impatient at the fact the listener is waiting
for you to stutter something out??

I have thought some very ugly thoughts
for other people, but i think my anger is
caused by the frusteration of hardly being understood,
and trying every single FRICKING method to help lessen it....

THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HELP ME IS A STUTTER AID--- AND THIS IS TOTALLY HURTFULL CAUSE IT
IS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AWAY- AND I DONT HAVE THAT KIND OF MANY...I'VE HEARD COUNTLESS TIMES THAT THESE THING DON'T CURE THE STUTTER-
BUT LESSEN IT...

AND THAT'S WHAT IV'E WANTED FOR YEARS....

I'M GOING STIR CRAZY--

HOW CAN ONE FEEL CONFIDENT INSIDE IF THE VERY THING THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO HIS INTERFERING
WITH THE CONFIDENCE----AND THAT THING IS
TALK RIGHT..??

Yes the caps lock were intentional to emphasize
my anger and impatience at my stutter thing..

[happy7117]

I applaud those who have found solace
in dealing with their stuttering.. and thus lead incredible fun productive lives....!!

But as for me my stuttering has held me back so much--, i forgot how much life I've missed out
due to the pain stuttering has caused me...

Yeah - i try to feel great in spite of the stutter thing- but it always seems to be there staring at me in the mirror weather i want to be with it or not...

It's a wall of glass that blocks the
passage outside of the box....

I have tried for years to be tough with it,
and wait it out....and tried many different
aids- which worked great but malfunctioned
after a short time..

I just cannot take this anymore---

The fact that a device would help me
is what i need, but the fact it's 4,000 bucks away
is also part of the hatred..

Companies who sell these devices have no clue how bad I need one depsite me having little money----

It's a combination of hatred to the stuttering, and outrage towards companies that sell these devices for thousands...

Who can I write for funding....
towards these companies

[dave]

Have you ever tried working with your speech on your own. Like reading aloud, carrying on a conversation with yourself. Stuff like that.

All devices will only work for a short period of time.

2-3 months tops including the speecheasy (despite its advertising campaign).

Just practice your speech.

I'm not saying you need to try harder and speak slower because that advice is completely bullshit.

You are 27 you have at least 50 more years to live.
You can turn your life around. Maybe become a motivational speaker.

I can not advise you to use a DAF/FAF device. Because it will quit working overnight and I do believe they make speech worse when the effect wears off.

[studentdoc]

I can not advise you to use a DAF/FAF device. Because it will quit working overnight and I do believe they make speech worse when the effect wears off.

I have heard the same

[Perad]

I HAVE NO PATIENCE with my own stuttering...

This may sound odd, but play poker, join party poker and play on the free tables, you will soon learn that to win you need patience, you need to observe the other players and play only the hands you feel you can win.

I was playing a bit today, from about 30 hands i played about 8, the cards were really against me, from that 8 i won 6-7 and i went from 10 play money
to 50. I tried to translate this to real money and got whupped lol, but thats another story. Learn patience.


Does anybody when they are stuttering
give impatient at the fact the listener is waiting
for you to stutter something out??

I find that at times, especially when i am trying to say bye, they stop, turn around, then go, "oh ok seeya"

But by being impatient yourself you will just make your stutter 100% worse. To get better you need patience, you need to calm down, speak a little slower, breath easier and just do your best. If you get stressed, you will try to speak faster, which doesn't help. Next you will get even tenser because you are stressed.

When you are relaxed you speak a lot better, you probably speak better with the cloest person you know, this is because you are relaxed. Getting pissed off will not help you.

THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HELP ME IS A STUTTER AID--- AND THIS IS TOTALLY HURTFULL CAUSE IT
IS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AWAY- AND I DONT HAVE THAT KIND OF MANY...I'VE HEARD COUNTLESS TIMES THAT THESE THING DON'T CURE THE STUTTER-
BUT LESSEN IT...

These aren't fullproof, what if it has no effect on you? On their site they have testimonials but how many of these do they sell? What percentage are positive? For $4000 you could go on some super intensive speech therapy course twice. They would then provide support if things go to pot after that.

HOW CAN ONE FEEL CONFIDENT INSIDE IF THE VERY THING THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO HIS INTERFERING
WITH THE CONFIDENCE----AND THAT THING IS
TALK RIGHT..??

Confidence is just a choice, I am a weak swimmer, i have no confidence in the water because i get cramps, yet i still force myself to go swimming, even though a look like a twat when i swim backwards while attempting the breast stroke. confidence, if you want a cheese burger and you know you will stutter so bad that ask if you want a pen, still go for it, who cares!? At least you have a cheese burger.

The more you do something the more confidence you build up. You say people wait for you to speak. Why does this annoy you so much!? They want to hear what you have to say, they could just as easily stop you half way through and make you feel foolish and bad.

Seriously evaluate your situation and work out just how bad they are. I get the feeling that you want to a be a fluent person so bad that you are missing all the good things that happen when you stammer.

[Standingtall]

Happy my friend, Don't take this wrong, but I really enjoy reading your posts. I think you are an very exciting writer, have you though of doing something creative with it.

My advice to you it is, you are going to have to change, for things to change. Only you can make those changes. I don't know anything about stuttering help devices or drugs to help with stutter, so I don't have anything to say about them. I took drugs, illegal ones, it didn't do anything for me. I tried drinking myself better, almost when into rehab as the result. I even beat up a few people who made fun of me, but I got other people upset with me, because I couldn't take a little joking. Funny how that worked.

From one stutter to another, I change my attitude and I stopped feeding or give energy to that other side of me. Anger, envy, jealous, self-pity, inferiority, etc.. My stutter improved, not over night, but the world, well my, seem to change. I couldn't even say my name, I had to use my second name a few times, now I could get up in a crowd and say my name. I still have very, very few days where I still can't say my name. Those days I can count on one hand now.

Well, thats my advice, hope you can use something from it, and if not, I'll live. hehehe!

[happy7117]

Happy my friend, Don't take this wrong, but I really enjoy reading your posts. I think you are an very exciting writer, have you though of doing something creative with it.

My advice to you it is, you are going to have to change, for things to change. Only you can make those changes. I don't know anything about stuttering help devices or drugs to help with stutter, so I don't have anything to say about them. I took drugs, illegal ones, it didn't do anything for me. I tried drinking myself better, almost when into rehab as the result. I even beat up a few people who made fun of me, but I got other people upset with me, because I couldn't take a little joking. Funny how that worked.

From one stutter to another, I change my attitude and I stopped feeding or give energy to that other side of me. Anger, envy, jealous, self-pity, inferiority, etc.. My stutter improved, not over night, but the world, well my, seem to change. I couldn't even say my name, I had to use my second name a few times, now I could get up in a crowd and say my name. I still have very, very few days where I still can't say my name. Those days I can count on one hand now.

Well, thats my advice, hope you can use something from it, and if not, I'll live. hehehe!

I'm glad you enjoy reading my posts!!!

Actually the reason my posts are so thoughtfull
is cause all the angering dysfluency bottles up
my creative thoughts and the ability to express
these great thoughts clearly...this board is the only outlet I have to let loose my anger and thoughts clearly and the dysfluensy makes me unable to
let these brilliant thoughts out to others...It
royaly pisses me off!! I still struggle like a b**ch
with it..my

I noticed something as I read your reply about changing the attitude--I wonder if my attitude is based on the level of fluency or dysfluency i have???

If I'm very dysfluent- I am very pissed,
and the only thng that will pump me up is some increased fluency....

I have tried to make myself happy and confident in spite of the stutter thing, but the only thing
that seems to generate a feeling of happiness
and confidence is increased fluency...

It's like the only way I can be joyfull is being
able to freely express myself-- and when I can't
it feels like I can't do what I really want to do...

Stuttering puts sort of this imaginary barrier
between me and the rest of the world in
terms of speaking..

It's hard to explain but I love people,
but the very fact talking is a pain in the you know
what increases the desperation wanting to
get to know others...

I used to think I could do anything in spite of
a stutter thing, but since it's gotten so much worse,
I've done so much less because of the trouble
talking it's caused me!!

Oh yeah- I did submit a great poem to an
online poetry club--I would have won money-
I entered as a way for it to be an outlet for all the
supressed communication stuttering has caused me--
I did not win!!!! I was so mad--- I must have spent 3 hours thinking and writing it---I wrote the poem and sent it in for 2 reasons-- to somehow express what the stuttering was not letting me express in words, and to win some money to buy myself happiness,
since the stuttering was making me feel empty-- money would get my happiness up...and when I did not win.... both the hopefull thought of winning seemed dashed- and not winning seemd to make me
think the poem did not mean that much...this was not just a poem to be entered, this was a poem to express
the thoughts that the stuttering had prevented me
from expressing...

If I could make money off writing on this board-
I would quit the job I have now-- where I have not gotten a promotion in 6 yeras since Ive had it
due to my stuttering...and I'm not allowed to talk alot
because of the stutter issue...

While everyone jokes and laughs while working I just
sit behind a cubicle thing listening desperate
to join on, but not doing so because I will stutter and not be understood..

[Perad]

I was just curious, if you got a girlfriend do you think you would become happy?

I find what makes me happy is being the best at something. This obviously makes me feel bad about my stutter, how can compete with people who can talk without even thinking about it. So i focus more on technical skills.

Right now i am doing a web design course, over christmas i created a website.

www.jasonstanley.co.uk

I'm happy at the moment because when my course starts up on the 30th of January i know i will be the best by far in my class. I'm actually looking forwards to group speaking!

Write down what makes you happy and post it here. Fluency can make your life easier but there are many unhappy fluent people.

Back to the money issue. You have a job! Jobs make money, if you live by yourself then you are spending most of your cash on living. If this is the case get some roommates or move in with your parents and start saving. How much are you on? I'm sure if you did this in a few months you could get your aid or go on some course.

[tdk]

All devices will only work for a short period of time.

2-3 months tops including the speecheasy (despite its advertising campaign).

I can not advise you to use a DAF/FAF device. Because it will quit working overnight and I do believe they make speech worse when the effect wears off.

A three-month study (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Speech-Language_Pathology/Stuttering/Casa_Futura_Technologies) of the Casa Futura Technologies (http://www.casafuturatech.com/index.shtml) School DAF (http://www.casafuturatech.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CFT&Product_Code=DAF&Category_Code=ASD) found that the device produced 55% carryover, that is, the subjects stuttered 55% less when not wearing the device, after three months use. No statistically significant "wearing off" was found.

A twelve-month study (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Speech-Language_Pathology/Stuttering/SpeechEasy) of the SpeechEasy DAF/FAF device found no carryover and no statistically significant "wearing off."

I'm unaware of any published scientific study supporting Dave's opinion that anti-stuttering devices "only work for a short period of time."

[tdk]

A variety of programs (http://www.casafuturatech.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CFT&Category_Code=DISC) provide anti-stuttering devices to American stutterers for whom ability to pay is an issue.

[BenLZ]

I've tried explaining that it isn't the fault of the company, anyways, I suggest you take up writing. It's a great hobby and your voice is heard just as much as everyone elses'. Infact, stuttering often comes as an advantage because when people immediately see you can't express yourself clearly verbally, they'll assume you've got lots of material to write about. Your stutter doesn't matter when you write, period.