Ever tried age regression(hypnosis) to relieve your stutter???

[cyrick]

I heard that age regression has helped a lot of people who stutters,it works by taking the person back at the first time he started stuttering or when it became worse.so to me if hypnosis ca do it,it sounds like a great idea.i really want to hear if there is anyone who tried it and it worked.....

[Nemo]

As far as I know regression therapy doesn't work for the vast majority of people who stutter; but there are a few exceptions. Stress contributes to stuttering, so if an individual has suffered a huge trauma in his past and if this trauma continues to generate enormous stress, then regression therapy (if done expertly) could improve speech by reducing or eliminating this underlying source of mental stress.

[jak]

hypnosis has been used for years with stuttering but the effects dont seem to last long,I dont think its worth the money

[Box of Clocks]

I tried hypnosis once many years ago but didn't really get any benefit from it. I don't think I was fully hypnotised though so perhaps I was just unlucky in that it is not possible to hypnotise me properly.

[amey]

Stuttering is neurologically based and genetically driven. Hypnosis will not help a neurological disorder. -- Hypnosis does not cure stuttering. Sorry.

[Thomas]

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[0000]

i've been thinking about this for a very long time... i want to believe it works but theres just something that tells me it wont

[Miko]

I did, but it did not work at all!

[Fredrick]

Stuttering is neurologically based and genetically driven. Hypnosis will not help a neurological disorder. -- Hypnosis does not cure stuttering. Sorry.

amey, sometimes you give good information but you have to stop acting like an authority on stuttering. I know if makes you feel good about yourself but you are not an authority on stuttering, ok?

there is no proof that stuttering is purely a neurological or physical, we are therorizing that it is but there is no firm evidence so far.


I have been successful with age regression but I first had to take the Hollins program to at least know how normal fluent speech is obtained and then work towards to being able to use the technique all the time.

I have found incidents in my life involving interactions with my parents that were not optimum for fluent speech. There were times that my parents told me not to talk about things in the family that I needed to talk about with outsiders. Maybe some people who read this can relate to it.

If you go back into your past you may encounter things that are unpleasant and painful so it is not easy.

I am expecting Amey to tell me I am wrong and I didn't have these experiences, that means that they are true since he and others don't want me to have these experiences and don't want them to be true.

watch the other responses.

I use self hypnotic tapes and did primal therapy for 5 years and then took the hollins program

[Vortex015]

Hi everyone,

I am a hypnotherapist and I am currently working on a stop stuttering program that people can purchase online. I would greatly challenge the people who are saying that it is ineffective. There is a big problem in the "world of hypnotists" because most hypnotherapist are not really trained very well. I would extend an invitation to anyone on this forum who lives nearby murfreesboro, tn, or would be willing to drive to murfreesboro, tn, that I would be willing to offer my services for a very small fraction of my normal rates. I will do it for $10 per session (this would be a two hour session). Search for hypnosis in murfreesboro and you will find my website so you can call me and discuss it with me.

I would also ask that hypnosis not be ruled out as a cure, even by those who have tried it. Even if you have been to a hypnotist yourselves, it is a 60% chance that person did not know how to do a proper regression. I am very experienced and very well trained and would happily put my reputation on the line for any of you who are interested and can make it to my office. You can openly destroy me if it doesn't work and you come to my office, however I am not going to accept you as a client if you're not sincere and open to this.

I don't want to make any cls saying it is a cure, because I have not done an official scientific study. But I only say that in my experience, it is a cure for stuttering. Once again, I am putting myself on the line saying that. But that is exactly what I believe. If any of you were interested in just learning a little about it, you can get a book called "Hypnotherapy" by Dave Elman. In that book is an entire session of how a man is cured from his stuttering. In the experience, the client is regressed all the way back to when he is only one years old, stumbling around, just beginning to walk and talk. When the child is one years old, he was picking up ducks and putting them in a little pond to swim. He kept putting multiple ducks into the little pond. Then for some reason the ducks weren't swimming. Then the child realizes they weren't ducks, they were actually his dads chickens, and he just drowned all of them. When his father came home he beat the child, and told him "Don't you dare say a word" preventing the child from crying and from expressing himself. Unknowingly, for all of this mans life, this was the cause of his stuttering. It was buried in his subconscious as an "amnesiac" memory. Meaning that it is a memory that the subconscious mind has blocked out, because of how traumatic it was. Once the man was regressed back to this event, he and Dave Elman then "neutralized" the event, and his stuttering was gone. When we have a buried subconscious event such as that, the emotions we felt during the time still remain with us, and they are magnified at certain times that have to do with the initial sensitizing event. Or even with the same type of words or emotions that were trying to be expressed at the time. I don't have time to get into more detail about it in this post, but that is a general explanation of how it works. There is also some technique in neutralizing the events, because if the therapist doesn't do that, then they are just opening up a can of worms for the client.

That is a simple example of how it works. EVERYONE'S SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. And don't waste any time trying to remember anything, because if there is a true subconscious reason for your stuttering, you WON'T remember it consciously.

So anyway, I just saw this as I've been doing some research for the program and had to respond. Please don't any of you rule out hypnosis, even the ones who have failed with a certain hypnotherapist. I firmly believe that hypnosis can uncover the true cause in every stutterer, which will have the result of curing their stuttering. I will try to watch this post and answer any questions people have about it.

[Fredrick]

Hi everyone,

I am a hypnotherapist and I am currently working on a stop stuttering program that people can purchase online. I would greatly challenge the people who are saying that it is ineffective. There is a big problem in the "world of hypnotists" because most hypnotherapist are not really trained very well. I would extend an invitation to anyone on this forum who lives nearby murfreesboro, tn, or would be willing to drive to murfreesboro, tn, that I would be willing to offer my services for a very small fraction of my normal rates. I will do it for $10 per session (this would be a two hour session). Search for hypnosis in murfreesboro and you will find my website so you can call me and discuss it with me.

I would also ask that hypnosis not be ruled out as a cure, even by those who have tried it. Even if you have been to a hypnotist yourselves, it is a 60% chance that person did not know how to do a proper regression. I am very experienced and very well trained and would happily put my reputation on the line for any of you who are interested and can make it to my office. You can openly destroy me if it doesn't work and you come to my office, however I am not going to accept you as a client if you're not sincere and open to this.

I don't want to make any cls saying it is a cure, because I have not done an official scientific study. But I only say that in my experience, it is a cure for stuttering. Once again, I am putting myself on the line saying that. But that is exactly what I believe. If any of you were interested in just learning a little about it, you can get a book called "Hypnotherapy" by Dave Elman. In that book is an entire session of how a man is cured from his stuttering. In the experience, the client is regressed all the way back to when he is only one years old, stumbling around, just beginning to walk and talk. When the child is one years old, he was picking up ducks and putting them in a little pond to swim. He kept putting multiple ducks into the little pond. Then for some reason the ducks weren't swimming. Then the child realizes they weren't ducks, they were actually his dads chickens, and he just drowned all of them. When his father came home he beat the child, and told him "Don't you dare say a word" preventing the child from crying and from expressing himself. Unknowingly, for all of this mans life, this was the cause of his stuttering. It was buried in his subconscious as an "amnesiac" memory. Meaning that it is a memory that the subconscious mind has blocked out, because of how traumatic it was. Once the man was regressed back to this event, he and Dave Elman then "neutralized" the event, and his stuttering was gone. When we have a buried subconscious event such as that, the emotions we felt during the time still remain with us, and they are magnified at certain times that have to do with the initial sensitizing event. Or even with the same type of words or emotions that were trying to be expressed at the time. I don't have time to get into more detail about it in this post, but that is a general explanation of how it works. There is also some technique in neutralizing the events, because if the therapist doesn't do that, then they are just opening up a can of worms for the client.

That is a simple example of how it works. EVERYONE'S SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. And don't waste any time trying to remember anything, because if there is a true subconscious reason for your stuttering, you WON'T remember it consciously.

So anyway, I just saw this as I've been doing some research for the program and had to respond. Please don't any of you rule out hypnosis, even the ones who have failed with a certain hypnotherapist. I firmly believe that hypnosis can uncover the true cause in every stutterer, which will have the result of curing their stuttering. I will try to watch this post and answer any questions people have about it.

i have 25 years with hypnosis and stuttering and just uncovering one event does not really stop the stuttering except momentarily in the office.

Stuttering is very much a situation related event.

Do you know how wierd your example of regressing one person is? I mean yes I do believe that uncovering a traumatic event like the one your client had could affect his speech but you glossed over a very significant part of the recalled event: that he as a small child drowned all the chickens???Why would a child do something like that?? The parents were doing a lot of shit to make a child drown all the chickens!! And if they were not this child is very sick indeed (( still think the parents were very abusive).

What that means is that this person would have to recall A LOT MORE than just that one incident to get a handle on his speech. And you seem to forget all the conditioning that took place that resulted in automated blocks, repetitiois, etc.

And you said " You can openly destroy me if it doesn't work and you come to my office, however I am not going to accept you as a client if you're not sincere and open to this." Why would you even say this???? "You can openly destroy me"?????? This is strange.

WHo would invite anyone to come to your home town and why would you charge only 10 dollars for TWO HOURS?????

I am concerned that you are a con man and huckster. You don't cite any degrees, you don't have any books published, not credentials, nothing.

[amey]

amey, sometimes you give good information but you have to stop acting like an authority on stuttering. I know if makes you feel good about yourself but you are not an authority on stuttering, ok?

there is no proof that stuttering is purely a neurological or physical, we are therorizing that it is but there is no firm evidence so far.


I have been successful with age regression but I first had to take the Hollins program to at least know how normal fluent speech is obtained and then work towards to being able to use the technique all the time.

I have found incidents in my life involving interactions with my parents that were not optimum for fluent speech. There were times that my parents told me not to talk about things in the family that I needed to talk about with outsiders. Maybe some people who read this can relate to it.

If you go back into your past you may encounter things that are unpleasant and painful so it is not easy.

I am expecting Amey to tell me I am wrong and I didn't have these experiences, that means that they are true since he and others don't want me to have these experiences and don't want them to be true.

watch the other responses.

I use self hypnotic tapes and did primal therapy for 5 years and then took the hollins program

Sorry I rub you so wrong, it was not my intention. I never cled to be an authority on anything. I just keep up on the most recent research and do stuttering advocacy work , thats all. It just shocks me soemtimes that people are still looking for cures in methods that even the "experts" reject, so I guess my irritation has come across as me being condescending.. I feel your anger permeating my screen and for that I am sorry.--- I dont know your experience and not here to tell you that it is "wrong", it may have helped you emotionally and that is great. -- IMO, the Hollins Program probably helped you the most, in terms of actual fluency, or maybe I am just trying to feel good about myself again! ;) -- Peace to you and good luck with your stuttering journey, amey

[Thomkatt]

Amey, I find you very informative and not condescending at all. I have learned a lot from your posts. I think stutterers want to hear that if I do XYZ my stuttering will go away and that just isn't how it works. And your right stuttering research is comming along albiet slower than we might like.
There are some really great stutterers out there who are working hard for us. Now I know that you are one of them.:)

[Vortex015]

i have 25 years with hypnosis and stuttering and just uncovering one event does not really stop the stuttering except momentarily in the office.

Stuttering is very much a situation related event.

Do you know how wierd your example of regressing one person is? I mean yes I do believe that uncovering a traumatic event like the one your client had could affect his speech but you glossed over a very significant part of the recalled event: that he as a small child drowned all the chickens???Why would a child do something like that?? The parents were doing a lot of shit to make a child drown all the chickens!! And if they were not this child is very sick indeed (( still think the parents were very abusive).

What that means is that this person would have to recall A LOT MORE than just that one incident to get a handle on his speech. And you seem to forget all the conditioning that took place that resulted in automated blocks, repetitiois, etc.

And you said " You can openly destroy me if it doesn't work and you come to my office, however I am not going to accept you as a client if you're not sincere and open to this." Why would you even say this???? "You can openly destroy me"?????? This is strange.

WHo would invite anyone to come to your home town and why would you charge only 10 dollars for TWO HOURS?????

I am concerned that you are a con man and huckster. You don't cite any degrees, you don't have any books published, not credentials, nothing.


Hey,

First off, I want to address something you just said: "i have 25 years with hypnosis and stuttering and just uncovering one event does not really stop the stuttering except momentarily in the office. "

Just because you got to a certain experience, does not mean you "neutralized" it. Your hypnotist, or therapist, or whoever did the regression with you probably doesn't know how to remove your imprints. It would be very easy for a speech language pathologist to only be trained in progressive relaxations, and very basic regression techniques.

Or, you have not gotten all the way back to what we call in the hypnosis world the "initial sensitizing event". That means the very first event or experience where the feeling or reactions were created. You could be going back to what we call the "Subsequent Sensitizing Event". This is an event that reinforces the initial sensitizing event and makes it stronger. Even if you do neutralize the subsequent sensitizing event your stutter will still be there. IT WILL NOT HELP YOU AT ALL. In fact it would be very painful to go there repeatly if the therapist doesn't know how to help you properly. It would be like opening up a can of worms with no results. So obviously, it is completely acceptable for anger to immediately come into your mind about regression hypnosis if that is what's happening. So if you send me a message and tell me what keeps on coming up in your sessions for over 25 years, then I may be able to help. Because if it keeps coming up, then it hasn't been taken care of yet. I would gladly help anyone.

I said "you can openly destroy me on this forum if it doesn't work" because I want to represent myself as someone very real, and if someone were to actually come and see me they could let people know on this forum what happened (if they decided to on their own, I would never breach confidentialtiy). So I was hoping that by putting myself out there, people would truly understand that I am real, and that I do believe in what I am saying.

The reason why I would see someone for only $10 for two hours is first off because I need to discover more experiences with different stutterers in order to make a more effective program. Everyone's experiences are COMPLETELY different. It is very hard to make an audio program that effectively regresses EVERY potential client or customer. It is very unlikely that anyone will have anything remotely the same as the chicken example I gave. It was just a good example to illustrate how our subconscious works, and how hypnosis helps remove the blocks. So the more experience I get with stuttering, obviously the better program I can make.

I know that sutterers are taken advantage of financially because of how motivated they are to cure themselves. I know I would spend thousands to try and cure myself if I stuttered, so I thought it best to offer a significant discount in order to NOT look like some kind of con artist. But then again, I said "you have to be open to it" etc because I am not going to let myself be disrespected by anyone. I think everyone can understand that.

So please, contact me through PM or through email, or whatever other ways, I would like to discuss whatever situations came up in your sessions. Let me know or contact me privately. Also anyone else can ask questions and I'll be glad to answer.

[Bruce]

sorry i rub you so wrong, it was not my intention. I never cled to be an authority on anything. I just keep up on the most recent research and do stuttering advocacy work , thats all. It just shocks me soemtimes that people are still looking for cures in methods that even the "experts" reject, so i guess my irritation has come across as me being condescending.. I feel your anger permeating my screen and for that i am sorry.--- i dont know your experience and not here to tell you that it is "wrong", it may have helped you emotionally and that is great. -- imo, the hollins program probably helped you the most, in terms of actual fluency, or maybe i am just trying to feel good about myself again! ;) -- peace to you and good luck with your stuttering journey, amey

yes yes the hollins program gave me the speech targets that produce fluency but i had to work on my past as i used these targets as best i could until i could talk fast enough and fluent enough to participate in the world. In summary when i got done with hollins i was talking too slowly to really keep up with everyone so i had to work on my past and see what was contributing to not being able to go faster which was anxiety and fear...

[Lenny]

Hey,

First off, I want to address something you just said: "i have 25 years with hypnosis and stuttering and just uncovering one event does not really stop the stuttering except momentarily in the office. "

Just because you got to a certain experience, does not mean you "neutralized" it. Your hypnotist, or therapist, or whoever did the regression with you probably doesn't know how to remove your imprints. It would be very easy for a speech language pathologist to only be trained in progressive relaxations, and very basic regression techniques.

Or, you have not gotten all the way back to what we call in the hypnosis world the "initial sensitizing event". That means the very first event or experience where the feeling or reactions were created. You could be going back to what we call the "Subsequent Sensitizing Event". This is an event that reinforces the initial sensitizing event and makes it stronger. Even if you do neutralize the subsequent sensitizing event your stutter will still be there. IT WILL NOT HELP YOU AT ALL. In fact it would be very painful to go there repeatly if the therapist doesn't know how to help you properly. It would be like opening up a can of worms with no results. So obviously, it is completely acceptable for anger to immediately come into your mind about regression hypnosis if that is what's happening. So if you send me a message and tell me what keeps on coming up in your sessions for over 25 years, then I may be able to help. Because if it keeps coming up, then it hasn't been taken care of yet. I would gladly help anyone.

I said "you can openly destroy me on this forum if it doesn't work" because I want to represent myself as someone very real, and if someone were to actually come and see me they could let people know on this forum what happened (if they decided to on their own, I would never breach confidentialtiy). So I was hoping that by putting myself out there, people would truly understand that I am real, and that I do believe in what I am saying.

The reason why I would see someone for only $10 for two hours is first off because I need to discover more experiences with different stutterers in order to make a more effective program. Everyone's experiences are COMPLETELY different. It is very hard to make an audio program that effectively regresses EVERY potential client or customer. It is very unlikely that anyone will have anything remotely the same as the chicken example I gave. It was just a good example to illustrate how our subconscious works, and how hypnosis helps remove the blocks. So the more experience I get with stuttering, obviously the better program I can make.

I know that sutterers are taken advantage of financially because of how motivated they are to cure themselves. I know I would spend thousands to try and cure myself if I stuttered, so I thought it best to offer a significant discount in order to NOT look like some kind of con artist. But then again, I said "you have to be open to it" etc because I am not going to let myself be disrespected by anyone. I think everyone can understand that.

So please, contact me through PM or through email, or whatever other ways, I would like to discuss whatever situations came up in your sessions. Let me know or contact me privately. Also anyone else can ask questions and I'll be glad to answer.

so are you using potentials unlimited tapes and or a variation of dianetics?

[amey]

yes yes the hollins program gave me the speech targets that produce fluency but i had to work on my past as i used these targets as best i could until i could talk fast enough and fluent enough to participate in the world. In summary when i got done with hollins i was talking too slowly to really keep up with everyone so i had to work on my past and see what was contributing to not being able to go faster which was anxiety and fear...

AGREED!!! :) I too believe that until the fear/anxiety is tapped into and dealt with, applying a technique is fruitless. Kind of hard to apply a technnique when having a panic attack!! For real! YOWZER!! --

[Steven]

i've been thinking about this for a very long time... i want to believe it works but theres just something that tells me it wont

you are right, you may be able to find someone who can regress you but then you need to work thru the material you get which requires talents above and beyond a hypnotherapist....

you then have to work thru the negative feelings you have about your parents or who ever abused you which this hynptherapist does not know how to do...:eek:

[MisterR]

Hey everyone, I wanted to chime in on the hypnotherapy aspect of this. I personally have had great success with self hypnosis. Not sure about the whole age regression, it seems like there would be more than a single past event that would need to be adressed.

The self hypnosis that helped me was a positive reinforcement tape that I would listen to every night when I went to bed. For those that said “yeah, I went once and it didn’t work”, I would say that it didn’t work because you simply didn’t give it enough time to work. The process takes a while. I started seing progress after a few weeks. It takes a lot to reprogram the mind and build confidence. It will not work overnight and does take time and willpower. It’s like working out – you’re not going to see progress right away, but if you keep at it, the progress will come. The self hypnosis helped me go from severe to mild. Took a while, but it helped.

I made the hypnosis tape myself. I modeled it after a hypnosis session that I had with a certified hynotist. He recorded the session and gave me the tape to listen to over and over. His tape was good, but I wanted mine to cover more topics and be more specific. It was free and easy. It’s essentially filled with lots of positive messages and reinforcements, it lasts about 20 minutes. It’s like trying to trick your mind into thinking that you speak fluently. Makes sense to me, becaue the mind doesn’t know the difference between real and fantasy. It is our minds that make us nervous in certain situations anyway right?

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not “the answer”, but it did help me, there’s absolutely no doubt about it. I think tackling this problem takes multiple strategies. Kind of like a bodybuilder, you can’t get into contest shape by just lifting weights, you also need to diet and have willpower. It’s going to take more than one method to beat the stutter monster. Any type of therapy that we’ve learned along the way, along with medicines that might help you (Xanax helps me immensely), along with building confidence by working out or whatever. Apply all of your learned strategies at the same time, and it will help!! Confidence breeds confidence!

I have the dialoge from my self hynosis, if anyone is interested in making their own tape or cd I can email you the text and coach you through it….and it’s free. Of course your voice would need to be fluent when you speak into the mic to do the actual recording. I would even be willing to make you a cd and send it to you if need be.

Sorry for the long post.

[Bruce]

what happened to vortex 105????

[Steven]

AGREED!!! :) I too believe that until the fear/anxiety is tapped into and dealt with, applying a technique is fruitless. Kind of hard to apply a technnique when having a panic attack!! For real! YOWZER!! --

unless you are having a panic attack over having to speak and really embarrasS yourself, that is still possible you know, it might only be anxiety over that and I think that is still a good part of the problem when you consider all the years you stuttered and went thru school, social situations, every day events that you became aware of as being embarrassing because of your speech and now as an adult you are really embarrassed and panicking because YOU DID NOT OVERCOME THE SPEECH PROBLEM AND YOU ARE NOW REALLY EMBARRASSED

with that summary could you share with us why you panic and suffer from anxiety separate from the stuttering embarrassment issue or is it this?

[Lenny]

hey everyone, i wanted to chime in on the hypnotherapy aspect of this. I personally have had great success with self hypnosis. Not sure about the whole age regression, it seems like there would be more than a single past event that would need to be adressed.

The self hypnosis that helped me was a positive reinforcement tape that i would listen to every night when i went to bed. For those that said “yeah, i went once and it didn’t work”, i would say that it didn’t work because you simply didn’t give it enough time to work. The process takes a while. I started seing progress after a few weeks. It takes a lot to reprogram the mind and build confidence. It will not work overnight and does take time and willpower. It’s like working out – you’re not going to see progress right away, but if you keep at it, the progress will come. The self hypnosis helped me go from severe to mild. Took a while, but it helped.

I made the hypnosis tape myself. I modeled it after a hypnosis session that i had with a certified hynotist. He recorded the session and gave me the tape to listen to over and over. His tape was good, but i wanted mine to cover more topics and be more specific. It was free and easy. It’s essentially filled with lots of positive messages and reinforcements, it lasts about 20 minutes. It’s like trying to trick your mind into thinking that you speak fluently. Makes sense to me, becaue the mind doesn’t know the difference between real and fantasy. It is our minds that make us nervous in certain situations anyway right?

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not “the answer”, but it did help me, there’s absolutely no doubt about it. I think tackling this problem takes multiple strategies. Kind of like a bodybuilder, you can’t get into contest shape by just lifting weights, you also need to diet and have willpower. It’s going to take more than one method to beat the stutter monster. Any type of therapy that we’ve learned along the way, along with medicines that might help you (xanax helps me immensely), along with building confidence by working out or whatever. Apply all of your learned strategies at the same time, and it will help!! Confidence breeds confidence!

I have the dialoge from my self hynosis, if anyone is interested in making their own tape or cd i can email you the text and coach you through it….and it’s free. Of course your voice would need to be fluent when you speak into the mic to do the actual recording. I would even be willing to make you a cd and send it to you if need be.

Sorry for the long post.

so what is your stutering like or are you completely fluent???

[MisterR]

so what is your stutering like or are you completely fluent???

I wish I could say that I was "completely" fluent, but that's not the case. I did go from severe to mild though.

[Lenny]

i wish i could say that i was "completely" fluent, but that's not the case. I did go from severe to mild though.

as long as you keep on insisting like amey that it is only neurological then you will never be fluent...

[MisterR]

as long as you keep on insisting like amey that it is only neurological then you will never be fluent...

I'm not sure what the ultimate reason is for stuttering, but I've never insisted that it's only neurological, like you say I have. :confused:

We may never know, at least in our lifetime, what the true cause is.

[Oliver]

Vortex015, I was trying to send you a PM but it didn't work out. Can you fix this,
or give me your e-mail?

[Steven]

I'm not sure what the ultimate reason is for stuttering, but I've never insisted that it's only neurological, like you say I have. :confused:

We may never know, at least in our lifetime, what the true cause is.

the reason for stuttering is as follows:

apparently some people have a pre disposition towards this but it only appears starts in childhood in reaction to parents who make you:

1. self conscious

2. afraid to ask for things

3. guilty about what you say

4. watch what you are saying about them to them and to other people

you then start to hesitate, avoid and switch words, be afraid to talk to them, to ask for things from them and generally deny who you really are and what you really want. THe more severe the situation in childhood, the worse your speech.

by doing all these things you get approval from your parents for being "good" and obedient and they may then give you some of the things you want or they don't and you are glad that you just are accepted in some way in your house.

However you get the impression that this is what you have to do and how you should be, stutter and all, just to get by.

it then becomes a habit and it stays with you since this is what you learned as a child and this is what you learned you were supposed to be in order to get approval and something from your parents in the distorted form of "love".

you then grow up and are in the world with other people who learned to do the same thing and believe the same things but did not handle it with a speech defect.

you then, in order to be fluent, need to work on all that happened to you while you use the best possible speech therapy you can that gives you a semblance of normal fluent speech as you work on your past and your speech at the same time.

now if you are thinking "how can I possible do this?", which is understandable, then you find yourself at this forum simply complaining and moaning about your speech, which makes sense in this high communicative society, and really do nothing about it because if you did you would find yourself feeling strangely anxious, depressed, etc which you are tying to avoid.

you then use every other approach to try to be fluent and yet still feel positive about life always thinking that "something will work" and if not, well, ok" always hanging onto the solution you came up with in childhood which helped you at least feel ok, and not too bad, as compared with extremely afraid, anxious , confused and afraid for your life at times as the result of the abuse you experienced at the hands of your "parents".

You then deny that any abuse took place, that your parents were wonderful all to not come in contact with anything from your childhood since if you come into contact with what happened your speech would be completely blocked a higher part of the time.

you then become Amey and insist it is strictly neurological to put, as it were, the icing on the denial cake which you have carefully baked over many years.

or you become coherentman whose brilliance tops any inferiority feeling about your stuttering and parades as a genius posting briliant insights and ideas and info on this forum so that he can forget he stutters and feels lousy about himself just to not feel bad about not being able to talk like normal people.

Once again all this to avoid the truth of your childhood like everyone else is doing and wearing nice clothes and having a decent place to live and a reasonable job so that you fit into society and appear normal.

Or you act as if you are a loser or crazy to be "special".

All this to avoid how you really feel about your childhood and incredibly abusive parents how insisted that you not talk about what they did!!

[MisterR]

the reason for stuttering is as follows:

apparently some people have a pre disposition towards this but it only appears starts in childhood in reaction to parents who make you:

1. self conscious

2. afraid to ask for things

3. guilty about what you say

4. watch what you are saying about them to them and to other people

you then start to hesitate, avoid and switch words, be afraid to talk to them, to ask for things from them and generally deny who you really are and what you really want. THe more severe the situation in childhood, the worse your speech.

by doing all these things you get approval from your parents for being "good" and obedient and they may then give you some of the things you want or they don't and you are glad that you just are accepted in some way in your house.

However you get the impression that this is what you have to do and how you should be, stutter and all, just to get by.

it then becomes a habit and it stays with you since this is what you learned as a child and this is what you learned you were supposed to be in order to get approval and something from your parents in the distorted form of "love".

you then grow up and are in the world with other people who learned to do the same thing and believe the same things but did not handle it with a speech defect.

you then, in order to be fluent, need to work on all that happened to you while you use the best possible speech therapy you can that gives you a semblance of normal fluent speech as you work on your past and your speech at the same time.

now if you are thinking "how can I possible do this?", which is understandable, then you find yourself at this forum simply complaining and moaning about your speech, which makes sense in this high communicative society, and really do nothing about it because if you did you would find yourself feeling strangely anxious, depressed, etc which you are tying to avoid.

you then use every other approach to try to be fluent and yet still feel positive about life always thinking that "something will work" and if not, well, ok" always hanging onto the solution you came up with in childhood which helped you at least feel ok, and not too bad, as compared with extremely afraid, anxious , confused and afraid for your life at times as the result of the abuse you experienced at the hands of your "parents".

You then deny that any abuse took place, that your parents were wonderful all to not come in contact with anything from your childhood since if you come into contact with what happened your speech would be completely blocked a higher part of the time.

you then become Amey and insist it is strictly neurological to put, as it were, the icing on the denial cake which you have carefully baked over many years.

or you become coherentman whose brilliance tops any inferiority feeling about your stuttering and parades as a genius posting briliant insights and ideas and info on this forum so that he can forget he stutters and feels lousy about himself just to not feel bad about not being able to talk like normal people.

Once again all this to avoid the truth of your childhood like everyone else is doing and wearing nice clothes and having a decent place to live and a reasonable job so that you fit into society and appear normal.

Or you act as if you are a loser or crazy to be "special".

All this to avoid how you really feel about your childhood and incredibly abusive parents how insisted that you not talk about what they did!!

I'm not so sure I buy into your theory completely. My mother raised two children (my sister and myself).

I'm pretty sure she treated us both the same

I'm pretty sure she wasn't abusive or wasn't loving toward us

I'm positive my sister speaks fluently - if it were poor parenting would my sister stutter too? Maybe her coping mechanism is superior to mine?

1% of the population stutters - I would bet that more than one percent of the overall population have been raised by abusive parents, so why don't more people stutter?

I am a bit self conscious but I would say that's more of a reaction to the stuttering itself and not the "cause" of it.

Here's my theory. My grandmother was schizophrenic. It's been found that people w/ schizophrenia have excessive dopamine levels in their brains. Excessive dopamine levels can wreak havoc on different parts of the brain affecting motor skills, etc. I think I was probably born w/ excesive dopamine levels as well and this resulted in poor motor skills involving the communicative areas of the brain. I therefore had trouble communicating and resulted in stuttering. The stuttering then manifested into very poor speaking habits, low self esteem, etc.

The reason I buy into all of this is because when I take xanax I speak more fluently. Xanax blocks dopamine receptors in the brain. So therefore:

Low dopamine = better speech

I'm really sorry if your parents were abusive to you, nobody should have to endure this. It very well may play a part in the cause of your stuttering, but I'm not so sure that it's the only factor.

[Steven]

I'm not so sure I buy into your theory completely. My mother raised two children (my sister and myself).

I'm pretty sure she treated us both the same

I'm pretty sure she wasn't abusive or wasn't loving toward us

I'm positive my sister speaks fluently - if it were poor parenting would my sister stutter too? Maybe her coping mechanism is superior to mine?

1% of the population stutters - I would bet that more than one percent of the overall population have been raised by abusive parents, so why don't more people stutter?

I am a bit self conscious but I would say that's more of a reaction to the stuttering itself and not the "cause" of it.

Here's my theory. My grandmother was schizophrenic. It's been found that people w/ schizophrenia have excessive dopamine levels in their brains. Excessive dopamine levels can wreak havoc on different parts of the brain affecting motor skills, etc. I think I was probably born w/ excesive dopamine levels as well and this resulted in poor motor skills involving the communicative areas of the brain. I therefore had trouble communicating and resulted in stuttering. The stuttering then manifested into very poor speaking habits, low self esteem, etc.

The reason I buy into all of this is because when I take xanax I speak more fluently. Xanax blocks dopamine receptors in the brain. So therefore:

Low dopamine = better speech

I'm really sorry if your parents were abusive to you, nobody should have to endure this. It very well may play a part in the cause of your stuttering, but I'm not so sure that it's the only factor.

HEY NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU MISTER R AND YOUR EXTENSIVE REPLY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WROTE BUT IT IS PROBABLY SOMEWHAT OF AN ESTABLISHED FACT THAT MAKES STUTTER 4 TO 5 TIMES MORE THAN FEMALES SO THAT COULD EXPLAIN WHY YOUR SISTER DOES NOT STUTTER AND YOU DO.

MAYBE THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT PARENTS PROBABLY ARE TOUGHER ON MALES THAN ON FEMALES BECAUSE SOCIETY EXPECTS MORE OF MALES THAN FEMALES AND ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LEADERS.

YES YOUR IDEA THAT MORE THAN 1% OF THE POPUATION WERE RAISED BY ABUSIVE PARENTS, YES THAT IS TRUE BUT I WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN HOW I DESCRIBED THE ABUSE, I DON'T THINK ALL PARENTAL ABUSE IS OF THE TYPE I DESCRIBED ABOVE, RE-READ IT AND YOU WILL SEE THE TYPE OF ABUSE I HAVE DESCRIBED IS VERY SPECIFIC TO HOW IT WILL AFFECT A CHILD AND CONTRIBUTE TO STUTTERING.

I FOUND IT VERY VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER WAS SCHIZOPHRENIC. THAT MEANS THAT ONE OF YOUR PARENTS HAD A PARENT WHO WAS VERY DISTURBED. THAT MEANS THAT AT LEAST ONE POINT IN YOUR PARENT'S LIFE THEY WERE BEING RAISED BY SOMEONE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PARENT AND BY SOMEONE WHO WAS TRYING TO BE A PARENT WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN AND THEY MUST HAVE BEEN ABUSIVE IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERSONALITIES ABOUT SCHIZOPHRENICS. THEY DEFINITELY CAN DO THE THINGS I HAVE LISTED ABOVE, YOUR PARENT IF THEY KNEW THAT THEIR PARENT WAS DISTURBED, HAD TO KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT ABOUT IT!!!!

Ask your parent what it was like to have this schizophrenic parent, that is if they will answer and you can actually ask, and you will have your answer if you can answer it.
Look go one and believe what you believe, it doesn't matter, I know that you will never really look into it because you rather believe what you wrote above.
Do you know why people continue to stutter? Because this is better than to know what caused it (that is the decision you made as a child and actually at that time it probably made sense)..

[amey]

HEY NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU MISTER R AND YOUR EXTENSIVE REPLY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WROTE BUT IT IS PROBABLY SOMEWHAT OF AN ESTABLISHED FACT THAT MAKES STUTTER 4 TO 5 TIMES MORE THAN FEMALES SO THAT COULD EXPLAIN WHY YOUR SISTER DOES NOT STUTTER AND YOU DO.

MAYBE THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT PARENTS PROBABLY ARE TOUGHER ON MALES THAN ON FEMALES BECAUSE SOCIETY EXPECTS MORE OF MALES THAN FEMALES AND ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LEADERS.

YES YOUR IDEA THAT MORE THAN 1% OF THE POPUATION WERE RAISED BY ABUSIVE PARENTS, YES THAT IS TRUE BUT I WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN HOW I DESCRIBED THE ABUSE, I DON'T THINK ALL PARENTAL ABUSE IS OF THE TYPE I DESCRIBED ABOVE, RE-READ IT AND YOU WILL SEE THE TYPE OF ABUSE I HAVE DESCRIBED IS VERY SPECIFIC TO HOW IT WILL AFFECT A CHILD AND CONTRIBUTE TO STUTTERING.

I FOUND IT VERY VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER WAS SCHIZOPHRENIC. THAT MEANS THAT ONE OF YOUR PARENTS HAD A PARENT WHO WAS VERY DISTURBED. THAT MEANS THAT AT LEAST ONE POINT IN YOUR PARENT'S LIFE THEY WERE BEING RAISED BY SOMEONE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PARENT AND BY SOMEONE WHO WAS TRYING TO BE A PARENT WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN AND THEY MUST HAVE BEEN ABUSIVE IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERSONALITIES ABOUT SCHIZOPHRENICS. THEY DEFINITELY CAN DO THE THINGS I HAVE LISTED ABOVE, YOUR PARENT IF THEY KNEW THAT THEIR PARENT WAS DISTURBED, HAD TO KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT ABOUT IT!!!!

Ask your parent what it was like to have this schizophrenic parent, that is if they will answer and you can actually ask, and you will have your answer if you can answer it.
Look go one and believe what you believe, it doesn't matter, I know that you will never really look into it because you rather believe what you wrote above.
Do you know why people continue to stutter? Because this is better than to know what caused it (that is the decision you made as a child and actually at that time it probably made sense)..

Stuttering is considered a developmental disorder, with a male to female ratio seen in other developmental disorders. Males are affected by these disorders in stronger numbers than females.---

The schizophrenic issue was brought up in terms of dopamine levels, not the parenting style of the schizophrenic. You seem to be stuck on the idea that parents are causing the stuttering, when current data suggests otherwise. You seem to enjoy telling people that they dont want to know the real reason they stutter, essentailly, blaming the person.-----Children are raped, tortured, go through wars, etc, and DO NOT AQUIRE a stutter. Considering the size of the world population, only a small amount of people stutter. PSYCHOGENIC stuttering is very, very, very rare. i am not being condescending, these are just the FACTS. Now, if you hold true to YOUR own beliefs, in spite of facts, that is a different issue.--

There is a National Stuttering Association Convention being held in Texas this year with all the top experts in stuttering. I promise you there will NOT be a seminar on the psychological CAUSES of stuttering, including parenting style.

[Steven]

Stuttering is considered a developmental disorder, with a male to female ratio seen in other developmental disorders. Males are affected by these disorders in stronger numbers than females.---

The schizophrenic issue was brought up in terms of dopamine levels, not the parenting style of the schizophrenic. You seem to be stuck on the idea that parents are causing the stuttering, when current data suggests otherwise. You seem to enjoy telling people that they dont want to know the real reason they stutter, essentailly, blaming the person.-----Children are raped, tortured, go through wars, etc, and DO NOT AQUIRE a stutter. Considering the size of the world population, only a small amount of people stutter. PSYCHOGENIC stuttering is very, very, very rare. i am not being condescending, these are just the FACTS. Now, if you hold true to YOUR own beliefs, in spite of facts, that is a different issue.--

There is a National Stuttering Association Convention being held in Texas this year with all the top experts in stuttering. I promise you there will NOT be a seminar on the psychological CAUSES of stuttering, including parenting style.

you said that there will be a National Stuttering Association convention with all the "top experts" in stuttering. WHAT MAKES THEM AN EXPERT?? WOULD NOT AN EXPERT BE SOMEONE WHO COULD ACTUALLLY CURE SOMEBODY OR COME CLOSE TO IT OF STUTTERING, IF NOT, WHY ARE THEY AN EXPERT?

ARE YOU AN EXPERT?

[Steven]

Stuttering is considered a developmental disorder, with a male to female ratio seen in other developmental disorders. Males are affected by these disorders in stronger numbers than females.---

The schizophrenic issue was brought up in terms of dopamine levels, not the parenting style of the schizophrenic. You seem to be stuck on the idea that parents are causing the stuttering, when current data suggests otherwise. You seem to enjoy telling people that they dont want to know the real reason they stutter, essentailly, blaming the person.-----Children are raped, tortured, go through wars, etc, and DO NOT AQUIRE a stutter. Considering the size of the world population, only a small amount of people stutter. PSYCHOGENIC stuttering is very, very, very rare. i am not being condescending, these are just the FACTS. Now, if you hold true to YOUR own beliefs, in spite of facts, that is a different issue.--

There is a National Stuttering Association Convention being held in Texas this year with all the top experts in stuttering. I promise you there will NOT be a seminar on the psychological CAUSES of stuttering, including parenting style.

I think the Forum should hire you for your professional opinions, we really need the truth about everything and you have it.

Why not go the the experts at NSA and ask them about pregnancy and stuttering, they MUST know!!

[amey]

I think the Forum should hire you for your professional opinions, we really need the truth about everything and you have it.

Why not go the the experts at NSA and ask them about pregnancy and stuttering, they MUST know!!

None of the above are my Opinions, they are facts. Your personal attacks are just shining a bright light on your lack of knowledge, debate is never carried out in this manner.

[Fredrick]

None of the above are my Opinions, they are facts. Your personal attacks are just shining a bright light on your lack of knowledge, debate is never carried out in this manner.

What makes them facts,what are your references,what are your degrees?

Your answers is a shining light on the fact that your ideas are opinions that you need to be true.

Why does this have to be a debate??

Why do you make everything a debate yet don't provide any sources, references?

[Steven]

None of the above are my Opinions, they are facts. Your personal attacks are just shining a bright light on your lack of knowledge, debate is never carried out in this manner.

You never answer any of my questions about your background or the people at NSA you just make statements and say they are facts.

Why should we assume they are facts when you don't answer any questions pertaining to what is being discussed?

Now, if you hold true to YOUR own beliefs, in spite of facts, that is a different issue.--

[Steven]

None of the above are my Opinions, they are facts. Your personal attacks are just shining a bright light on your lack of knowledge, debate is never carried out in this manner.

Let me ask you a question, just straight up, has your knowledge of the "facts" helped you with your stuttering?

I am asking in the hope that you will say "it has" and then tell us which things you use so that we can try it out.

Will you do that?

My impression of NSA is that they have been around a long time and they don't really help all that much people who stutter.

Perhaps you can change my perception of them and then I can attend NSA events and courses and learn what you have learned.

You have the ability to write well so I would appreciate this information.

Thank you.