McGuire Program?

[youngm]

Well gang, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and pay for the McGuire Program, which costs ~ $2.3k AUD :confused: :eek:

It IS a lot of money, but it *may* be the best investment I've made in a loooong time. It could potentially allow me to obtain a better paying, more senior position :rolleyes:

Anybody on this Forum attended this program and if so, what was your experience like? How fluent did you become at the end of the program and how long have you remained fluent?

Have you been back for any follow-up sessions?

What does this program entail?

Discuss please?

[Explorer]

Oops sorry posted in error

[studentdoc]

Well gang, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and pay for the McGuire Program, which costs ~ $2.3k AUD :confused: :eek:

It IS a lot of money, but it *may* be the best investment I've made in a loooong time. It could potentially allow me to obtain a better paying, more senior position :rolleyes:

Anybody on this Forum attended this program and if so, what was your experience like? How fluent did you become at the end of the program and how long have you remained fluent?

Have you been back for any follow-up sessions?

What does this program entail?

Discuss please?
I might go this summer and have done a lot of research into this program. It seems good but you will most likely be doing follow up sessions. I haven't met a person yet who didn't do a follow up.

[Jeff99]

i took the course in march 2005 it's not a quick fix but if u put in the effort the u will get result but it's hard work i say it was worth the money once u pay the first time you can go back as many times as u like just have to pay for the room and flight. we have support groups all over the world if u join the Mcguire program u get a phone list of fellow recovering stutters we phone each other u make life long friends.it is worth the price if u put everything in to it.

[Jeff99]

Well gang, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and pay for the McGuire Program, which costs ~ $2.3k AUD :confused: :eek:

It IS a lot of money, but it *may* be the best investment I've made in a loooong time. It could potentially allow me to obtain a better paying, more senior position :rolleyes:

Anybody on this Forum attended this program and if so, what was your experience like? How fluent did you become at the end of the program and how long have you remained fluent?

Have you been back for any follow-up sessions?

What does this program entail?

Discuss please?


Let everyone how it goes. i'll be going back to the next course in sydney to help the new student i'll be going back as a coach.and thr great thing is it cost me nothing but the air fair and the room don't really want to sleep on the street

[Vermillion]

I think the programme looks helpful as it treats stuttering as a holistic issue, but I don't like how the technique manifests itself. I've seen some of the followup videos, and their speaking looks very unnatural.
It looks like a very strenuous technique to do, because they make you breathe very convulsively to make it impossible to stutter. Maybe if I were doing a presentation, it would be a good technique. But talking one on one to someone, it would be very hard.

It's like:

*GASP* Hi, my name is *GASP* John *GASP* I just finished the *GASP* Mcguire programe.

[Jeff99]

I think the programme looks helpful as it treats stuttering as a holistic issue, but I don't like how the technique manifests itself. I've seen some of the followup videos, and their speaking looks very unnatural.
It looks like a very strenuous technique to do, because they make you breathe very convulsively to make it impossible to stutter. Maybe if I were doing a presentation, it would be a good technique. But talking one on one to someone, it would be very hard.

It's like:

*GASP* Hi, my name is *GASP* John *GASP* I just finished the *GASP* Mcguire programe.

Ok Good Point put somthing you need to know is that we don't take like that all the time just in our Comfort zone. it's god practise to build a soild techinque. we don't talk like that all they time just to fellow Mcguire students and maybe friends and family if you want thus helps build the techinque fast so we can use it in the real world overtime and practise you make it sound normal buy keeping the noise of the breath in the chest and talking about 8 words per breath. It really sounds normal after practise. We Exaggerate the techinque in our comfort zones to help us build it fast so when we fee; the fear we know that the techinque will control the stutter because we have practise it over the top.

[studentdoc]

Ok Good Point put somthing you need to know is that we don't take like that all the time just in our Comfort zone. it's god practise to build a soild techinque. we don't talk like that all they time just to fellow Mcguire students and maybe friends and family if you want thus helps build the techinque fast so we can use it in the real world overtime and practise you make it sound normal buy keeping the noise of the breath in the chest and talking about 8 words per breath. It really sounds normal after practise. We Exaggerate the techinque in our comfort zones to help us build it fast so when we fee; the fear we know that the techinque will control the stutter because we have practise it over the top.

I've talked to a McGuire instructor who a.) stuttered b.) very loud breathing. Maybe he was having a bad day or used to be a sever stutterer so it's better than severe stuttering if that's the case.

[Jeff99]

Some people keep the breathing really loud all the time because they don't want to go back to there old ways which is there choice. But most of us Recovering stutterers learn to keep the breathing in the chest. at first it going to sound unnatural but onces u learn to control it after time you go from 3 words per breath to 8 or 9 words and overtime you are able to make it sound normal i guess sure sometims u will need to go really breathly. We have a saying the greater the fear the deeper the tone which means more air as you speak and deeper in the chest

[studentdoc]

Some people keep the breathing really loud all the time because they don't want to go back to there old ways which is there choice. But most of us Recovering stutterers learn to keep the breathing in the chest. at first it going to sound unnatural but onces u learn to control it after time you go from 3 words per breath to 8 or 9 words and overtime you are able to make it sound normal i guess sure sometims u will need to go really breathly. We have a saying the greater the fear the deeper the tone which means more air as you speak and deeper in the chest
How do you rate your "recovery" so far? (i.e. 30% fluent to 60% ... or what?) Thanks.

[Jeff99]

ok this is hard to explain we don't go for a fluent speech thats comes as a result to getting the breathing tec down pack. no one in the world is fluent they alway say ums and things like that i don't i say the word twice once in my head the once out loud in my head i plan everthing like how it will sound etc. i'm happy with my speech i would say before the course i was about 10% fluent at best now i'm about 90+ i guess. but thats a result of hard work and not trying to be fluent just trying to use good tec

[doogle2k]

Anyone have anymore updates on the mcguire program??Im thinking bot going!!!any payment plans?

[Adrian]

Anyone have anymore updates on the mcguire program??Im thinking bot going!!!any payment plans?

I have done McGuire and would recommend it. Just have realistic expectations. You will not be fluent after the course, but you will learn some fantastic tools to help with fluency and you will be part of a great support group.

I believe McGuire has payment plans in the US, I don't know about Ireland though.

[happy7117]

You will not be fluent after the course

What's the point in going if one will not be fluent after the course.

What I mean is, no doubt tools will be gained from the course in order to acheive fluency, but isn't the point of the course to be able to speak fluently when you leave???

And when a person relapses, isn't that what the tools learned at the course are used for??

[doogle2k]

What's the point in going if one will not be fluent after the course.

What I mean is, no doubt tools will be gained from the course in order to acheive fluency, but isn't the point of the course to be able to speak fluently when you leave???

And when a person relapses, isn't that what the tools learned at the course are used for??

If you are guaranteed to be fluent wouldnt we all be going in our droves!!its NOT a cure but a tool to help you deal with the everyday burden that is our stammer both mentally and physically!!It may also be good to connect to people who have led simular lives!!I know this forum allows us to connect but surely nothing can substitute for meeting people in the same boat!Having seen gareth gates interview on johnathon ross show really makes you see the progress you can make!!He definitly highlights the progress we all should be aspiring towards :)

Thanks Adrian!!ill contact them about the payment plan!

[happy7117]

gareth gates

Gates is fantastic!

[Adrian]

What's the point in going if one will not be fluent after the course.

What I mean is, no doubt tools will be gained from the course in order to acheive fluency, but isn't the point of the course to be able to speak fluently when you leave???

And when a person relapses, isn't that what the tools learned at the course are used for??

I don't know the official answer, but the point of the course is not total fluency. Any course that does promise total fluency is a scam in my opinion. McGuire teaches you to become a better communicator and an "in control stutterer." It teaches you skills to not only improve fluency, but accept some level of stuttering, and never ever avoid any speaking situations. If your goal is leave the course totally fluent and never stutter again, you will be disappointed.

[Jeff99]

what's the point?
whats the point of not trying everything you can to improve your stutter.

i took the course you leave the course in a much better place than when you left it. it's not easy work it isn't a cure it's a method to gain the power to speak with alot of hard work.

when you leave your first course you will be able to speak using techquie the course it a guide but unless you use it in the real world you will fail an relapses but with the tools you learn the course you can achive your goals.

the whole point of the course is to open your eyes show that we can speak an to have pride respect an courage within ourselves that we can do anything if your work hard an don't give up.

i'm the first to say that i gave up i was fluent for a year then got lazy an stopped pushing myself stop talking to strangers stoppped my breathing execise in the morning an i relapsed.

now i have i'm working harder than ever to achive my fluently again with alot of hard work alot on thing normal people wouldn't do. it's to show yourself that speaking can be fun an it's not to be feared.

as for payment plans i'm sure if you email the head person in your country they will try there best to work something our for you.

i could recommend the course i could say all great things but the point is you have decided an got the courage to take that step yourself, because after the 4 days it's just you having said that you have a world wide phone list an support groups an a personal coach there is no one holding your hand it's up to you to take the steps help will be there if you do but it's all about you

[Sarah]

I went on this last year and had initial success and confidence. But ultimately, I made the decision that it wasn't for me. Either I live my life emeshed with my stammer and trying to control it, giving it so much conscious thought that it nearly kills me, or I try to marginalise it. That's not to knock the course, its philosophy and definitely not those who I met on it who showed me a lot of support and faith, but it wasn't for me.....I think that you have to work out what your stammer thrives on. If it's attention, like mine, then it may not be a good bet. Those moments when I'm fluent are those moments when I truly exist without a thought to my diaphragm or the person standing in front of me......natural communication, basically. But go on it if you feel it's right for you and I do wish you the best of luck with it.