View Full Version : Are there any people here who have overcome stuttering?
bar08
06-13-2010, 11:05 PM
Hi,
I'd like to make a thread where people can easily find and get in contact with others who once stuttered but managed to overcome it.
I know that most of us here are still dealing with the hardships of having to live with a stutter, but there's got to be at least a handful of people who have once stuttered but managed to make it history for them.
If you're an ex-stutterer please leave a comment in this thread. It would be awesome to get some information on how you overcame your stutter or found a cure. If you've made a thread somewhere else on how you overcame your stutter leave a link.
We would all love to know how to overcome our stuttering. The reason why there is no thread on a cure is because there is no cure.-- We can learn to manage it the best that we can, but this is a genetic, neurological disorder. It is not going to go away, unfortunatley.-- Like I said, it CAN be managed. Good luck!
marktb68
06-23-2010, 05:43 PM
No one has overcome stuttering? Not one person? wow, that's a bold statement.
No wonder why you still have problems. :)) I say that with love. Your beliefs are standing in your way of "managing' stuttering. You certainly can overcome stuttering b/c stuttering is a behavior and all behaviors can be overcome. Do you stutter alone? If stuttering were a neuro condition, you would do it all the time. I can hit a perfect 5 iron on the practice range, but if someone watches me I screw it up. Should I tell myself I will never be able to hit a 5-iron. Its a nervous system problem.
God gave us a choice. We can succumb to stuttering or we can choose to slay it. Its your choice.
Mark
No one has overcome stuttering? Not one person? wow, that's a bold statement.
No wonder why you still have problems. :)) I say that with love. Your beliefs are standing in your way of "managing' stuttering. You certainly can overcome stuttering b/c stuttering is a behavior and all behaviors can be overcome. Do you stutter alone? If stuttering were a neuro condition, you would do it all the time. I can hit a perfect 5 iron on the practice range, but if someone watches me I screw it up. Should I tell myself I will never be able to hit a 5-iron. Its a nervous system problem.
God gave us a choice. We can succumb to stuttering or we can choose to slay it. Its your choice.
Mark
Take a deep breath, angry one. Your words are chocolate covered scorpions. Its all about intention...
I have always been steadfast on my knowlege of stuttering and what is working for me. --You on the other hand, have bounced from using a Speech easy, to using and selling Schwartz's program, to ridiculing other for not REALLY trying, saying it is not psychological because physical reactions are involved, Cling to be 99% fluent, finally succumbing to Pagoclone when its released, to saying its a CHOICE, which negates everything you said prior. Each "theory" disqualifies the next!----( Sounds a bit Schizophrenic. Schizophrenia is another example of a NEUROLOGICAL disorder that doesnt manifest itself at all times, as is Epilepsy, Tourettes Syndrome, etc.) Me, problems???
You can do a basic GOOGLE search and get the SCIENTIFIC facts. If stuttering WERE a behavior, Behavior Modification strategies WOULD work, but they DONT.--
marktb68
06-25-2010, 04:23 PM
A smiley face and saying "with love" abolishes the anger supposedly I feel.
Tourettes, etc. CAN be cured. Why not? Why cant they? We just haven't found a way. That's like saying AIDS will "never" be cured. Sure it will, just give it time.
I certainly did use the Speecheasy(4 years ago) but realized it was a coverup and did nothing to address the real problems.
If you gave me 99% fluency, I am taking it!!! Sure, I still stutter sometimes but I am beginningn to know why and in what situations and am learning to deal with those situations and my feelings towards them.
Stuttering is a learned behavior, not just a behavior. BMS do work, but not totally. Youre right. We all have our theories as to why we do what we do. I may be wrong. Hell, I probably am but I am not laying down and giving up and complaining. I remain optimistic or I can be "angry" and pessimistic. My choice.
howeee
06-26-2010, 02:25 PM
No one has overcome stuttering? Not one person? wow, that's a bold statement.
No wonder why you still have problems. :)) I say that with love. Your beliefs are standing in your way of "managing' stuttering. You certainly can overcome stuttering b/c stuttering is a behavior and all behaviors can be overcome. Do you stutter alone? If stuttering were a neuro condition, you would do it all the time. I can hit a perfect 5 iron on the practice range, but if someone watches me I screw it up. Should I tell myself I will never be able to hit a 5-iron. Its a nervous system problem.
God gave us a choice. We can succumb to stuttering or we can choose to slay it. Its your choice.
Mark
Mar its old news that stuttering has its roots in a physical problem. Use google somtime. That some people dont stutter when they are alone is meaningless.
ahmed
06-27-2010, 01:36 AM
no one never and ever
it is irreversible condition
The problem is that words such as "managing / curing stuttering" are vague. When talking about managing or curing stuttering, we should be more specific. For instance, I have definitely cured myself in certain SPECIFIC SITUATIONS, such as saying my name. I have also cured myself in other situations, such as ordering food in restaurants, talking in shops etc.
I have done this through a step-by-step process, using fluency techniques at low-stress levels, then working upward toward more difficult levels. Eg. saying a single, short fluent sentence via fluency techniques in a shop, then progressing to longer sentences. Hard work!
Learning to say your name is possible through "mass practice" reconditioning - saying your name at least 3000 times in three days (1000 per day) with the aid of a fluency technique, that's what I did.
My speech has also generally improved, but I still get tripped up when being confronted with an unexpected stressful situation. I have also not extinguished ALL speaking fears, and I have to watch my stress levels carefully (this is where "stuttering management" is still necessary); but on the whole I am much better off than 30 years ago.
Stuttering should IMHO be seen as a holistic problem that should be tackled holistically. It is partly tension-related, partly learned behavior, partly physical (malfunctioning stress-sensitive vocal cords?) and partly psychological (eg. lack of confidence resulting in more stress).
It follows that stuttering can, at least in theory, be managed and gradually reduced in severity via tension control; unlearning and reconditioning (this is where the HARD WORK comes in!); vocal cord management (slower speech, airflow, etc.); and psychological self-help such as visualisation techniques, self-assertiveness training etc.
A smiley face and saying "with love" abolishes the anger supposedly I feel.
Tourettes, etc. CAN be cured. Why not? Why cant they? We just haven't found a way. That's like saying AIDS will "never" be cured. Sure it will, just give it time.
I certainly did use the Speecheasy(4 years ago) but realized it was a coverup and did nothing to address the real problems.
If you gave me 99% fluency, I am taking it!!! Sure, I still stutter sometimes but I am beginningn to know why and in what situations and am learning to deal with those situations and my feelings towards them.
Stuttering is a learned behavior, not just a behavior. BMS do work, but not totally. Youre right. We all have our theories as to why we do what we do. I may be wrong. Hell, I probably am but I am not laying down and giving up and complaining. I remain optimistic or I can be "angry" and pessimistic. My choice.
You may not be giving up and lying down, but you certainly are passively aggressive with your posts. That is what I meant by INTENTION. Randomly telling someone "thats the reason you have problems", when you have never uttered a word to them, well, its just socially weird.
You know ABSOLUTELY nothing about me. Ridiculous. Inappropriate.
your arguement as to whether stuttering is a CHOICE or not is just over played. IT is aggressive also. You are saying it is peoples fault that they arent cured. Stutterers have a choice as to whether or not to seek treatment, and that is where the choice ends. Practice does not make the stuttering leave for ever. This thinking is OLD.
You know this Pagoclone that you are interested in is a NEUROLOGICAL altering drug. It changes the chemistry of the BRAIN by blocking dopamine. It is believed that stutterers have too much Dopamine. Yes, stuttering IS a neurological disorder.
Your insistance on comparing the complex working of the brain to GOLF is humorous. Yes, we can practice our techniques, like golf, I guess, but it will not CURE/ELIMINATE the stuttering. It can certainly help, but not in all cases. People who work REALLY hard, someitmes have minimal results. EVERy case is different. -- Telling someone that they have the choice to change it or be WEAK is terrible.---I am not being mean, but you seriously dont know what you are talking about.
Maybe both Mark and Amey are to some extent correct? Maybe they are looking at different sides of the same coin? Mark looks at stuttering from the 'learned behavior' viewpoint and Amey from the organical viewpoint. I am sure that stuttering contains both a 'learned behavior' component and an 'organic' component. We can work on unlearning and deconditioning to some extent, but most of us will probably always have a TENDENCY to stutter, for instance when 'caught' unawares in situations where we haven't (or couldn't have) practised.
That has certainly been my experience - I have unlearned stuttering in many situations, but sometimes I still get tripped; some speaking situations are really difficult or impossible to prepare for. So to some extent we may have to accept the potential to stutter, if not the stuttering itself. At the same time I feel that many of us (not everybody) would benefit from working on the 'learned behavior' part of our speech. I certainly have had times of sheer laziness regarding speech work.
Then again, hard work is not the only factor. For some of us, therapy or self-therapy just doesn't work - eg. the stress / tension levels of some PWS's are so high and / or their learned behaviors are so deeply established, or the subconscious stutterer's psychological mindset is so firmly ingrained that improvement becomes very difficult indeed. Again, some PWS's have really fully recovered. It's so difficult to generalise about stuttering.
I did!, A few weeks ago i became almost fluent, Thanks to an amazing book called 'Comprehensive Stuttering Therapy ', A few minutes ago i posted a thread with a download link to the book, The thread it still waiting for a confirmation from the moderator I hope the moderator will allow it to be posted.
Anyway overcoming stuttering isn't impossible all you need are the right techniques and patience.
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