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sirphira
06-15-2010, 11:18 PM
hi all, i joined an institute of speech therapy for my stuttering.

everyday i do exercises of my speech organs(tongue, lips and cheeks) and nothing else, there is also some breathing exercises.

is this speech therapy for stuttering/stammering?

JR123
06-16-2010, 09:46 AM
mate, after trying different kinds of speech therapy, i've came into a conclusion, Speech therapy only offer a short term effect on your speech, so unless you are willing to take speech therapy for the rest of your life, try finding other ways to control your speech.

howeee
06-17-2010, 04:47 AM
yea that is it,,,it doesnt work

you will be much better off, accepting yourself as a person who stutters, get along with your life and dont concentrate so much about your speech.

Dinasaur
06-17-2010, 06:19 PM
not the kind i know of.
although releasing tension might sound like a good idea, and for some people in helps,
you have to realize that you wont be able to do these excerises if you're in a stressful situation and about to talk.
the kind of speech therapy im doing right now is basically becoming comfortable with my stuttering (not be embarassed every time i order food and things like that)
also, my goal as a result of speech therapy is not to stop stuttering, because all the breathing excerises are bs, trust me.
my goal is to stutter COMFORTABLY, hence relieving the tension, making it less fearful and easier to talk.
hope that helped =)

jamesm
06-18-2010, 03:26 PM
try speaking out loud, to yourself for at least like 15 or so minutes in the morning or evening. I've found this incredibly helpful. Some may argue that speaking aloud when alone, and actually communicating with people are completely different activities (neurologically and physically speaking), and I would agree. However, just hearing your fluent self, basically "practicing" fluency, feeling and listening to your voice without worrying about stuttering can be very advantageous.
Knowing that you HAVE the "ability" to talk fluently (even though you may not be able to hold this fluency 100% of the time, especially in conversation with others) is a very powerful thing. Inside all of us is a fluent voice, a fluent mind, a fluent person. Take care.

sirphira
06-24-2010, 12:11 AM
i am new in this forum you guys are looking very aware about stuttering. i dont know much about stuttering but i am sure basic problem is in my brain and tension or excitement make it worst. i am from underdevelped country here are few organizations that are working for stuttering.

You guys could not understand me. right now my problem is not speech, my problems are my therapists. mostly they are targeting my articulator and breathing and they are sure i will be fine and this treatment will help me. i can produce any sound i can sing like a normal person i know there is nothing wrong with my speech organs.

the problem is, i have not much knowledge of stuttering i cant prove stuttering is more neurological/psychlogical, exercises of my speech organs is not helpful for me i know this point very well but i cant prove it to my therapists they have thousands justifications. i need a solid prove so i can talk to them you are doing wrong. i have already paid them lot of money atleast i want to tell them i am not a foolish person.

sorry for my english and also if you think i am a stupid person.

sirphira
06-24-2010, 12:12 AM
i am new in this forum you guys are looking very aware about stuttering. i dont know much about stuttering but i am sure basic problem is in my brain and tension or excitement make it worst. i am from underdevelped country here are few organizations that are working for stuttering.

You guys could not understand me. right now my problem is not speech, my problems are my therapists. mostly they are targeting my articulator and breathing and they are sure i will be fine and this treatment will help me. i can produce any sound i can sing like a normal person i know there is nothing wrong with my speech organs.

the problem is, i have not much knowledge of stuttering i cant prove stuttering is more neurological/psychlogical, exercises of my speech organs is not helpful for me i know this point very well but i cant prove it to my therapists they have thousands justifications. i need a solid prove so i can talk to them you are doing wrong. i have already paid them lot of money atleast i want to tell them i am not a foolish person.

sorry for my english and also if you think i am a stupid person.

amey
06-24-2010, 09:13 PM
i am new in this forum you guys are looking very aware about stuttering. i dont know much about stuttering but i am sure basic problem is in my brain and tension or excitement make it worst. i am from underdevelped country here are few organizations that are working for stuttering.

You guys could not understand me. right now my problem is not speech, my problems are my therapists. mostly they are targeting my articulator and breathing and they are sure i will be fine and this treatment will help me. i can produce any sound i can sing like a normal person i know there is nothing wrong with my speech organs.

the problem is, i have not much knowledge of stuttering i cant prove stuttering is more neurological/psychlogical, exercises of my speech organs is not helpful for me i know this point very well but i cant prove it to my therapists they have thousands justifications. i need a solid prove so i can talk to them you are doing wrong. i have already paid them lot of money atleast i want to tell them i am not a foolish person.

sorry for my english and also if you think i am a stupid person.

No one thinks you are stupid and your English is great! Welcome to this forum.-- You are correct, there is nothing wrong with your speech mechanism. We stutterers have a neurological condition that causes the stuttering.

Unfortunatley, there is no cure for our stuttering, but it can me managed through some of techniques that you talked about in this post, like breathing and different ways of articulating letters. These are all valid techniques and do work for many people.

Follow what your therapist tells you and see it it works for you. Just keep in mind that these are TOOLS, they will NOT make your stuttering go away. They are like a wheel chair for a person who cannot walk. They are there to HELP, not solve the stuttering.

There are all different opinions on the best way to help stuttering. Some people declare that NOTHING works, while other have found GREAT relief and satisfaction with the techniques they use.-- People on this forum only can draw from their own experiences-- No one agrees completely! There is no ONE right way in dealing with stuttering.

Good luck wiht your therapist and I hope it goes well. We all support you and you certainly are not alone.

sirphira
06-25-2010, 07:48 PM
amey i really appriciate ur reply. first of all those are not techniques they are just exercises and also not helping in my stuttering. i agree the role of breathing please give me answers of my following questions:

1. do u believe exercises of lips and moving toungue around lips or inside mouth can help in stuttering?
2. whispering words with full breath pressure can reduce stuttering?
3. prolong of vowels or other sounds like "ta pa ka la ma" with full open mouth and upto 20 to 30 seconds can fluent a stutter?

please tell me have you ever heared this kind of therapy?

amey
06-26-2010, 03:41 PM
OOOOHHHH, I just saw that you are being told to do exercises with your lips, tongue, etc....... That concerns me.

sirphira
06-30-2010, 09:22 PM
OOOOHHHH, I just saw that you are being told to do exercises with your lips, tongue, etc....... That concerns me.

amey, please give me a answer. do you know about this kind of therapy?

amey
07-01-2010, 03:50 AM
amey i really appriciate ur reply. first of all those are not techniques they are just exercises and also not helping in my stuttering. i agree the role of breathing please give me answers of my following questions:

1. do u believe exercises of lips and moving toungue around lips or inside mouth can help in stuttering?
2. whispering words with full breath pressure can reduce stuttering?
3. prolong of vowels or other sounds like "ta pa ka la ma" with full open mouth and upto 20 to 30 seconds can fluent a stutter?

please tell me have you ever heared this kind of therapy?

Ok, lets see if I can help. I dont know everything though!

1. exercises may help release tesion in your lips and tongue, but usually isnt used to help stuttering itself. So, no it wont help your stuttering.

2. whispering words is not used as a speech technique. Although it can produce fluency for a time, the "trick" will eventually wear off.

3.Prolongation of sound is a viable technique that many use. I use it myself. I am not sure if the application of the prolongation is being used correctly in your case.

For example : If I know I am going to stutter on the word TOMORROW, I prolong the FIRST letter. So it goes T......morrow. I prolong the FIRST letter,

But there are other ways also. Prolonging the FIRST SYLLABLE, the vowels in the first syllable : TO (holding out the "O")....Morrow. It would sound like, TOOOOOOO...Morrow. TOOOOO...Day. MOOOR ...ning (morning) I wish I could talk to you in person and show you. I am fearful I am not explaining it properly.

Is your therapist incorparating these prolongations of vowel into words??? or is he/she just having you prolong different combinations of letter and vowel??
Basically, are you leearning to say words with the prolongations or just sounds??
Let me know and we can work from there. talk to you soon!

sirphira
07-10-2010, 08:58 PM
Ok, lets see if I can help. I dont know everything though!

1. exercises may help release tesion in your lips and tongue, but usually isnt used to help stuttering itself. So, no it wont help your stuttering.

2. whispering words is not used as a speech technique. Although it can produce fluency for a time, the "trick" will eventually wear off.

3.Prolongation of sound is a viable technique that many use. I use it myself. I am not sure if the application of the prolongation is being used correctly in your case.

For example : If I know I am going to stutter on the word TOMORROW, I prolong the FIRST letter. So it goes T......morrow. I prolong the FIRST letter,

But there are other ways also. Prolonging the FIRST SYLLABLE, the vowels in the first syllable : TO (holding out the "O")....Morrow. It would sound like, TOOOOOOO...Morrow. TOOOOO...Day. MOOOR ...ning (morning) I wish I could talk to you in person and show you. I am fearful I am not explaining it properly.

Is your therapist incorparating these prolongations of vowel into words??? or is he/she just having you prolong different combinations of letter and vowel??
Basically, are you leearning to say words with the prolongations or just sounds??
Let me know and we can work from there. talk to you soon!


Thanks amey, i can understand you and as you told me prolonging technique will be helpful in my case i will try to use it.

My therapist has a list of sounds like "a" "e" "i" "o" "u" "ta" "pa" "ka" "la" "ma". I prolong only these sounds and i dont prolong any word.

Everyday I do exercises of my speech organs and breathing, prolonging and whispering words thats all. They are sure if i do these magic exercises i will speak like a normal person.

Amazingly they dont believe stuttering is a neurological or psychological. According to my therapist my articulators and breathing is responsible for my stuttering.

OK, Just prove my following statement is wrong:
Mr Amey, you are not using required pressure of breathing or you are using improper breathing and your lips and tongue movement is abnormal thats the cause of your stuttering.

Lenny
07-10-2010, 11:38 PM
hi all, i joined an institute of speech therapy for my stuttering.

Everyday i do exercises of my speech organs(tongue, lips and cheeks) and nothing else, there is also some breathing exercises.

Is this speech therapy for stuttering/stammering?



what is the exact name of your clinic and its location and does it have a web address?

L

Debora
07-11-2010, 05:49 AM
Hi everybody!

I do group therapy on University, I do prolongations too, exercises to relax the lips and the tongue. The exercise that we more like is intonation, because many stutters speech without this, so we do intonations to different words on the sentence.
Like: I went to the town today morning, IT WAS RAINING, but you weren't there.

I don't touch the lips and the tongue so hard to talk, so I don't force the words.

I started the therapy this year and I'm felling that I'm better than the last year.

Unfortunately, have many speech therapist that don't know anything about stutter and just stole the stutters, moreover they can do things worse.

amey
07-12-2010, 08:57 PM
Thanks amey, i can understand you and as you told me prolonging technique will be helpful in my case i will try to use it.

My therapist has a list of sounds like "a" "e" "i" "o" "u" "ta" "pa" "ka" "la" "ma". I prolong only these sounds and i dont prolong any word.

Everyday I do exercises of my speech organs and breathing, prolonging and whispering words thats all. They are sure if i do these magic exercises i will speak like a normal person.

Amazingly they dont believe stuttering is a neurological or psychological. According to my therapist my articulators and breathing is responsible for my stuttering.

OK, Just prove my following statement is wrong:
Mr Amey, you are not using required pressure of breathing or you are using improper breathing and your lips and tongue movement is abnormal thats the cause of your stuttering.

Hello! I have no real proof that improper breathing and abnormal lips/tongue are not the cause of my stuttering.-- I have worked with many stutterers and some of the best stuttering experts in the U.S., none of which would say that breathing/abnormal lips and tongue, cause stuttering. We as stutters may have abnormal breathing in an attempt to lessen our stuttering, or we may contort out lips/tongue in unnatural ways, but these are NOT the source of our stuttering. --- Breathing techniques are used by some to manage their stuttering, but this is no cure.


If you have some time, go look at the websites for the National Stuttering Association and the National Stuttering Foundation. You can even email them with your questions. They are credible institutions and will tell you that stuttering is not caused by abnormal breathing/lips and tongue.

Current research and study have located a mutated gene in stuttering populations.--- This explains how stuttering is often times a "family" disorder. We inherit it as we would any other gene.

It is also believed that stutterers have too much dopamine in the brain. The anti-stuttering drug, Pagoclone, alters the chemistry of the BRAIN. It blocks dopamine, and hopefully, will help with the severity of stuttering.

I persoanlly worked with a gentleman who had nearly 20 stutterers in his family. The National Institute of Health did a study on this family and the mutated gene, for his family, was located. There was nothing wrong with thieir breathing and/or lips and tongues.

These are just a few examples I have, but go check out those websites and you will find a lot of useful information. Unfortunately, the therapist you are seeing seems to be stuck in "old" thinking. --I hope this helped and I answered what you wanted me to! good luck and you are not alone in this! amey

Bill Hargis
07-13-2010, 04:31 AM
different things work for different people, don't be afraid to try. everyone is different. some severe stuttering has been cured. Rare yes, but it has happened.

Benhoor
07-17-2010, 07:29 PM
Self-therapy is the greatest therapy you can ever get and the only thing that can truly work for you; other type of therapies/books/articles are potentially good and can help you become more aware of the power of self-therapy but never rely solely on speech therapy courses.

sirphira
07-18-2010, 03:34 PM
Debora,
good luck with your speech therapy, yes i am agree with you there are many therapist that dont know any thing about stuttering. unfortunatly this is only in underdeveloped countries.

Bill Hargis,
Thanks for advice.

Amey,
thanks for helping me, guys like you are very great you gave me my required info. i just want to confirm my breathing, lips and tongue are normal. i already had doubts my therapist dont know how much stuttering is complicated, he believes the problem is only in my breathing or my lips and tongue. i will also confirm it from NSA and NSF thanks for a good advice.

unfortunately i am little late i already paid too much only for simple lips/tongue or breathing exercises and i speak like before i feel no difference. now i need to seek other ways for my stuttering.