View Full Version : Stutterers, You're Sitting On A Goldmine. . .
MichaelWilliams
07-08-2010, 02:13 AM
I wrote this article recently about how stuttering can actually make you a great speaker. I thought would share this with you all because there are some famous people on this list who use to stutter or still do.
Believe it or not, people who have stuttered/stammered can become better than average speakers. You ask, "How is this possible?"
People with this type of speech impediment who are highly motivated to stop stuttering are prime candidates for becoming excellent speakers. There are a few key reasons I believe and have proven that this is true. First, here is a small list of contemporary famous people who either stutter or stuttered:
1. Samuel L. Jackson - Actor
2. Bruce Willis - Actor
3. James Earl Jones - Actor
4. Bill Withers - Songwriter and Singer
5. Bo Jackson - Football star
6. Senator, Now Vice President (U.S.A.) Joe Biden
7. Rowan Atkinson - British actor who plays Mr. Bean
Checkout this link for more: http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster/famous/famouspws.html
Obviously, those people, despite their stutter have gone on to do incredible work, which has required them to master the art of speaking.
Second, people who stutter/stammer have a heightened awareness of speech and themselves. They are quick thinkers and capable of manipulating words to their benefit because they've had to, when they needed to communicate. A sharp mind is required to quickly pick and choose words and phrases, and anticipate situations when they were about to stutter. The beauty of this is, this same ability and skill can be transformed from avoiding stuttering to outstanding speech.
Finally, a person who stutters has the capability to learn how to control his or her breathing, rhythm, and tone, voice quality to high degree because they tend to be very conscious of these factors as a stutterer.
They are also capable of creating and delivering great presentations without notes because they often do not like to read in public. Reading requires one to say certain words, in a certain order. If any of those words presents a problem, the reader either has to struggle with the word or phrase, skip it or make up another word to fit.
Friends, I used all of the above to teach myself how to create long or short, broad or very detailed presentations completely in my mind. I could then deliver these presentations as if I had a detailed set of notes in front of me. Sometimes I would have only a few brief notes in outline format to refresh my memory, but I usually did not need them.
If you stutter or stammer you are sitting on a goldmine. You have the potential to become an excellent speaker, even a great speaker. You can be one of the best conversationalists around. Why? Because you have developed certain characteristics, abilities and skills, you have a better than average innate speaking ability.
squint
07-14-2010, 09:40 PM
I doubt I'll ever be a great speaker, but maybe singer. :)
Thanks for the encouraging post.
Thomkatt
07-14-2010, 11:16 PM
The only goldmine you see Micheal is selling your latest cure stuttering cd.:mad:
Lenny
07-15-2010, 04:39 AM
I wrote this article recently about how stuttering can actually make you a great speaker. I thought would share this with you all because there are some famous people on this list who use to stutter or still do.
Believe it or not, people who have stuttered/stammered can become better than average speakers. You ask, "How is this possible?"
People with this type of speech impediment who are highly motivated to stop stuttering are prime candidates for becoming excellent speakers. There are a few key reasons I believe and have proven that this is true. First, here is a small list of contemporary famous people who either stutter or stuttered:
1. Samuel L. Jackson - Actor
2. Bruce Willis - Actor
3. James Earl Jones - Actor
4. Bill Withers - Songwriter and Singer
5. Bo Jackson - Football star
6. Senator, Now Vice President (U.S.A.) Joe Biden
7. Rowan Atkinson - British actor who plays Mr. Bean
Checkout this link for more: http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster/famous/famouspws.html
Obviously, those people, despite their stutter have gone on to do incredible work, which has required them to master the art of speaking.
Second, people who stutter/stammer have a heightened awareness of speech and themselves. They are quick thinkers and capable of manipulating words to their benefit because they've had to, when they needed to communicate. A sharp mind is required to quickly pick and choose words and phrases, and anticipate situations when they were about to stutter. The beauty of this is, this same ability and skill can be transformed from avoiding stuttering to outstanding speech.
Finally, a person who stutters has the capability to learn how to control his or her breathing, rhythm, and tone, voice quality to high degree because they tend to be very conscious of these factors as a stutterer.
They are also capable of creating and delivering great presentations without notes because they often do not like to read in public. Reading requires one to say certain words, in a certain order. If any of those words presents a problem, the reader either has to struggle with the word or phrase, skip it or make up another word to fit.
Friends, I used all of the above to teach myself how to create long or short, broad or very detailed presentations completely in my mind. I could then deliver these presentations as if I had a detailed set of notes in front of me. Sometimes I would have only a few brief notes in outline format to refresh my memory, but I usually did not need them.
If you stutter or stammer you are sitting on a goldmine. You have the potential to become an excellent speaker, even a great speaker. You can be one of the best conversationalists around. Why? Because you have developed certain characteristics, abilities and skills, you have a better than average innate speaking ability.
Hi,
Liked your posting it was uplifting but the people you mentioned were, well, not bad stutterers in the first place or they have the ability, that not every stutterer has, to speak fluently in the professions they have chosen.
Actually you or whoever makes the effort to ask them how they do it could tell all of us about it. That would be worth a goldmine.
Look into it, I would love to hear what you find out! Or tell us how you do it.
Actually when I was in public school if I learned something by heart I could act in a school play. For some reason I lost that. Find out how they kept it.
Thanks
L
MichaelWilliams
07-22-2010, 05:27 AM
Hello L
It's funny because I recently someone from India share with me that they were able to act or do dramatic presentations without stuttering. THIS in fact is a specific technique one can use to transition from stuttering/stammering, believe it or not.
It seems that you stumbled upon something that you may not have realized was a way to reduce or even stop stuttering. I'd be glad to share more if you're interested.
Thanks
howeee
07-23-2010, 07:57 AM
I wrote this article recently about how stuttering can actually make you a great speaker. I thought would share this with you all because there are some famous people on this list who use to stutter or still do.
Believe it or not, people who have stuttered/stammered can become better than average speakers. You ask, "How is this possible?"
People with this type of speech impediment who are highly motivated to stop stuttering are prime candidates for becoming excellent speakers. There are a few key reasons I believe and have proven that this is true. First, here is a small list of contemporary famous people who either stutter or stuttered:
1. Samuel L. Jackson - Actor
2. Bruce Willis - Actor
3. James Earl Jones - Actor
4. Bill Withers - Songwriter and Singer
5. Bo Jackson - Football star
6. Senator, Now Vice President (U.S.A.) Joe Biden
7. Rowan Atkinson - British actor who plays Mr. Bean
Checkout this link for more: http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster/famous/famouspws.html
Obviously, those people, despite their stutter have gone on to do incredible work, which has required them to master the art of speaking.
Second, people who stutter/stammer have a heightened awareness of speech and themselves. They are quick thinkers and capable of manipulating words to their benefit because they've had to, when they needed to communicate. A sharp mind is required to quickly pick and choose words and phrases, and anticipate situations when they were about to stutter. The beauty of this is, this same ability and skill can be transformed from avoiding stuttering to outstanding speech.
Finally, a person who stutters has the capability to learn how to control his or her breathing, rhythm, and tone, voice quality to high degree because they tend to be very conscious of these factors as a stutterer.
They are also capable of creating and delivering great presentations without notes because they often do not like to read in public. Reading requires one to say certain words, in a certain order. If any of those words presents a problem, the reader either has to struggle with the word or phrase, skip it or make up another word to fit.
Friends, I used all of the above to teach myself how to create long or short, broad or very detailed presentations completely in my mind. I could then deliver these presentations as if I had a detailed set of notes in front of me. Sometimes I would have only a few brief notes in outline format to refresh my memory, but I usually did not need them.
If you stutter or stammer you are sitting on a goldmine. You have the potential to become an excellent speaker, even a great speaker. You can be one of the best conversationalists around. Why? Because you have developed certain characteristics, abilities and skills, you have a better than average innate speaking ability.
This guy is some phoney posting over and over again on this list, it is advertising for some CD or some treatment.
your website says "I stuttered for over 20 years. And after many years of struggle, embarrassment and pain, I finally figured out how to stop."
you were obviously NEVER a stutterer, because you would know after "stuttering for 20 years" that you 'figure out' how to stop. its a REAL issue in the brain not just something you can cure. it's almost like an allergy, if you have it...you have it.
and if you were ever a stutterer you would never EVER charge people for your so called cure because you would understand the pain and frustration we go through every single day.
Bruce
07-29-2010, 05:30 PM
your website says "I stuttered for over 20 years. And after many years of struggle, embarrassment and pain, I finally figured out how to stop."
you were obviously NEVER a stutterer, because you would know after "stuttering for 20 years" that you 'figure out' how to stop. its a REAL issue in the brain not just something you can cure. it's almost like an allergy, if you have it...you have it.
and if you were ever a stutterer you would never EVER charge people for your so called cure because you would understand the pain and frustration we go through every single day.
i would agree with this, if he said that after 20 years he stopped this is not possible unless he had been working on it from a speech therapy viewpoint, psychological and emotional viewpoint and from a neurological/brain viewpoint.
what is possible is that he thinks that he has stopped in that he is satisfied with his speech enough to think that his stuttering has stopped, which is quite possible, the question becomes "is he as fluent as as non-stutterer?".
if so,you would think that he would be offering his services to numerous organizations and not trying to sell a cd.
maybe he will answer these comments...
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Hello L
It's funny because I recently someone from India share with me that they were able to act or do dramatic presentations without stuttering. THIS in fact is a specific technique one can use to transition from stuttering/stammering, believe it or not.
It seems that you stumbled upon something that you may not have realized was a way to reduce or even stop stuttering. I'd be glad to share more if you're interested.
Thanks
This "acting" is not a technique. It is simply HIDING the stuttering. Taking a different persona, changing ones mental approach, or even changining ones voice is certainly not new AND we as stutterers are all aware that it works for a short period of time. NOthing revolutionary, or ground beaking.-- The problem is that is just that, a TRICK. A way to hide the stuttering and deceive the listener. --- Hiding and deception come at a great, great cost. People who use this "technique" you talk about are called COVERT STUTTERERS.---- They are hiding their stuttering.-- So these actors you talked about earlier, who cl to be stutterers, can hide it during performances, big deal. I can hide it for awhile too....Not new, not interesting, and certainly not a "goldmine".
MichaelWilliams
08-09-2010, 04:21 PM
your website says "I stuttered for over 20 years. And after many years of struggle, embarrassment and pain, I finally figured out how to stop."
you were obviously NEVER a stutterer, because you would know after "stuttering for 20 years" that you 'figure out' how to stop. its a REAL issue in the brain not just something you can cure. it's almost like an allergy, if you have it...you have it.
and if you were ever a stutterer you would never EVER charge people for your so called cure because you would understand the pain and frustration we go through every single day.
I can see that from your replies that you are upset or even angry. You make comments, like I obviously never stuttered without actually knowing me. While I do not HAVE to defend myself, I will briefly say that I did stutter and stammer and still do sometimes in my second language Spanish. I also occasionally get stuck just like any other person who does not identify themselves as a stutterer-stammerer.
That being said, I now speak professionally in public, private and in regular conversations quite fluently without stuttering-stammering. This is something I could not say 15 years ago. Is it possible to reduce, minimize, and even eliminate stuttering? I say yes to all three. Some people learn to minimize others virtually eliminate it.
I'm simply offering an option. By the way, would you tell a therapist not to charge for his or her services? Would you tell an author sharing his or life experience and perhaps some solutions not to charge for their book, cd, video etc? Why is it a crime to offer resources for a nominal charge? Had you investigated a bit more closely, you might also have found that I also offer scholarships for those unable to pay.
The bottom line is that I use to stutter-stammer and now, for all practical purposes I do not. I can read, speak in public or private just as someone who has never stuttered-stammered. CAN YOU? If so, great. If not, then what are you doing to help people who cannot? Why are you spending your time criticizing people like me who are offering advice instead of figuring out how to speak more fluently yourself or helping others to do the same?
MichaelWilliams
08-09-2010, 04:25 PM
This "acting" is not a technique. It is simply HIDING the stuttering. Taking a different persona, changing ones mental approach, or even changining ones voice is certainly not new AND we as stutterers are all aware that it works for a short period of time. NOthing revolutionary, or ground beaking.-- The problem is that is just that, a TRICK. A way to hide the stuttering and deceive the listener. --- Hiding and deception come at a great, great cost. People who use this "technique" you talk about are called COVERT STUTTERERS.---- They are hiding their stuttering.-- So these actors you talked about earlier, who cl to be stutterers, can hide it during performances, big deal. I can hide it for awhile too....Not new, not interesting, and certainly not a "goldmine".
Call it whatever you like, the fact is, IT WORKS! You don't have to like it or try it. . .but it can and does work. People have tried to "cure" stuttering for ages. Therapists, doctors and many others have used a wide variety of techniques to help people who stutter-stammer. If something works, and does not harm the person, try it. One thing may work for you and not for someone else and vice-versa. Don't criticize the trick, or technique if you don't like it or it does not work for you because it may be just the technique or trick that helps someone else.
Again, it worked for me and MAY work for someone else. Where are you solutions?
MichaelWilliams
08-09-2010, 04:31 PM
This "acting" is not a technique. It is simply HIDING the stuttering. Taking a different persona, changing ones mental approach, or even changining ones voice is certainly not new AND we as stutterers are all aware that it works for a short period of time. NOthing revolutionary, or ground beaking.-- The problem is that is just that, a TRICK. A way to hide the stuttering and deceive the listener. --- Hiding and deception come at a great, great cost. People who use this "technique" you talk about are called COVERT STUTTERERS.---- They are hiding their stuttering.-- So these actors you talked about earlier, who cl to be stutterers, can hide it during performances, big deal. I can hide it for awhile too....Not new, not interesting, and certainly not a "goldmine".
No one said this is groundbreaking. No one said it is new. But for someone it may be new or groundbreaking. Perhaps they've never thought of it before. The goal here is to give people as many options and different ways to overcome stuttering-stammering. Call it whatever you like, COVERT STUTTERERS, TRICKS or anything else. . .if it helps a person develop a new and better way of speaking more fluently. . .USE IT.
This is a short-term approach not a long-term approach. On my site, which you criticize so much, I stress this and refer to the long-term approach as the recommended strategy to transition from stuttering to fluent speech. But I don't think you mentioned that because it seems you were too busy tearing down my comments rather than providing encouraging comments for other readers.
Fredrick
08-09-2010, 05:27 PM
I wrote this article recently about how stuttering can actually make you a great speaker. I thought would share this with you all because there are some famous people on this list who use to stutter or still do.
Believe it or not, people who have stuttered/stammered can become better than average speakers. You ask, "How is this possible?"
People with this type of speech impediment who are highly motivated to stop stuttering are prime candidates for becoming excellent speakers. There are a few key reasons I believe and have proven that this is true. First, here is a small list of contemporary famous people who either stutter or stuttered:
1. Samuel L. Jackson - Actor
2. Bruce Willis - Actor
3. James Earl Jones - Actor
4. Bill Withers - Songwriter and Singer
5. Bo Jackson - Football star
6. Senator, Now Vice President (U.S.A.) Joe Biden
7. Rowan Atkinson - British actor who plays Mr. Bean
Checkout this link for more: http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster/famous/famouspws.html
Obviously, those people, despite their stutter have gone on to do incredible work, which has required them to master the art of speaking.
Second, people who stutter/stammer have a heightened awareness of speech and themselves. They are quick thinkers and capable of manipulating words to their benefit because they've had to, when they needed to communicate. A sharp mind is required to quickly pick and choose words and phrases, and anticipate situations when they were about to stutter. The beauty of this is, this same ability and skill can be transformed from avoiding stuttering to outstanding speech.
Finally, a person who stutters has the capability to learn how to control his or her breathing, rhythm, and tone, voice quality to high degree because they tend to be very conscious of these factors as a stutterer.
They are also capable of creating and delivering great presentations without notes because they often do not like to read in public. Reading requires one to say certain words, in a certain order. If any of those words presents a problem, the reader either has to struggle with the word or phrase, skip it or make up another word to fit.
Friends, I used all of the above to teach myself how to create long or short, broad or very detailed presentations completely in my mind. I could then deliver these presentations as if I had a detailed set of notes in front of me. Sometimes I would have only a few brief notes in outline format to refresh my memory, but I usually did not need them.
If you stutter or stammer you are sitting on a goldmine. You have the potential to become an excellent speaker, even a great speaker. You can be one of the best conversationalists around. Why? Because you have developed certain characteristics, abilities and skills, you have a better than average innate speaking ability.
Hi,
Your link doesn't work.
You had already made the same post before so I think you are using this website for advertising. Apparently you have a CD of some sought to sell. Is this true?
Look, we are glad you are doing well with your speech but most of the time something that helps one stutterer does not help another stutterer.
You say we are sitting on a gold mine. Perhaps you think YOU are sitting on a potential gold mine by selling your ideas or CDs?
The only problem with your scheme is that whatever you are selling might only work for you, people who stutter have different life experiences and stutter in different ways and have different needs and techniques to help their stuttering.
Maybe you should remove that picture of yours with your arms folded as if you are a super confident authority and put up one that shows a more compastionate person who is less interested in selling something and more interested in helping people for free.
Maybe you post this message all the time because it really only helps one person-you!
Fredrick
angeldust
08-10-2010, 01:39 AM
As there is no cure for stuttering I think having strategies to become more fluent is the only way to go and if one of the strategies is to "act" and this works for you, I say "great work, good on you". I don't think it's "hiding" your stutter, it's all about coping mechanisms.
I like Michael's approach, it makes a lot of sense. I am a mild stutterer (some days are worse than others though) and I completed the Smooth Speech stuttering course 20 years ago. I learnt a whole new way of speaking, focusing on breathing, pauses, phrasing, hard contacts, soft contacts etc etc, and when I used these skills I could be 100% fluent. Once I put all this into practice people would not stop commenting on how fantastic, relaxed and smooth my speech was. I actually began to love speaking, it was fantastic. I wasn't hiding my stutter I had been taught how to COPE with it and how TO BE FLUENT, so at the end of the day, I say "do whatever works for you".
MichaelWilliams
08-15-2010, 05:29 PM
YES!!! You've got it. Do what works for you while you also use a strategy that will help you speak more fluently long-term. Eventually you begin to think and see yourself as an excellent speaker instead of a stutterer.
Isn't this primary goal?
Thanks again for your comment and I'm glad you experienced and hope you are continuing to experience success.
Thomkatt
08-15-2010, 09:44 PM
I don't think Amey is trying to tear you down Micheal. She is trying to educate you and correct misinformation. She is also trying to protect those who stutter. Stutterers are very vulnerable to scams. Maybe if you would stay away from terms like cure and fluency people on here would not be so weary of you. Amey is one of the most reasonable, logical, and respectable stutterers I have ever read on this sight.
Lenny
01-10-2011, 06:53 PM
I don't think Amey is trying to tear you down Micheal. She is trying to educate you and correct misinformation. She is also trying to protect those who stutter. Stutterers are very vulnerable to scams. Maybe if you would stay away from terms like cure and fluency people on here would not be so weary of you. Amey is one of the most reasonable, logical, and respectable stutterers I have ever read on this sight.
now i think i know what michael's program is all about although he has been saying it all along.
his program is based upon the fact that you are sitting on a goldmine because there have been very well know people who have been successful because they overcame their stuttering.
except this is not true. we don't know if they overcame their stuttering outside of the medium we see them in. and they probably are successful in what they do not because of their stuttering but because they had talent in this area whether they stuttered or not.
maybe they are just successful because they are still switching words, avoiding words and using all kinds of mind games like yourself Michael.
your program is very unscientific and really all based upon inspiring yourself to think of stuttering as a goldmine and work it from a positive angle.
nothing wrong with this except that is what all stutterers do when they are fluent automatically, they already came up with your solution years ago and they know it does not work in the long run.
besides we still need to see a tape of you stuttering to see how bad your speech was until we do at least I plan to ignore your program.
be a man and tell us and or show us how bad your speech was.
hey tomkatt, why do you refer to amey as she when he is a man?
Thomkatt
01-27-2011, 06:56 PM
I think he is pregnant then.
Steven
01-28-2011, 05:41 PM
I think he is pregnant then.
i agree with you on this one.....
Bruce
01-29-2011, 01:03 AM
call it whatever you like, the fact is, it works! You don't have to like it or try it. . .but it can and does work. People have tried to "cure" stuttering for ages. Therapists, doctors and many others have used a wide variety of techniques to help people who stutter-stammer. If something works, and does not harm the person, try it. One thing may work for you and not for someone else and vice-versa. Don't criticize the trick, or technique if you don't like it or it does not work for you because it may be just the technique or trick that helps someone else.
Again, it worked for me and may work for someone else. Where are you solutions?
michael, the only way we can know how good your cure is, is, for you to provide us with a video of how badly you stuttered, we have already seen a video of you speaking now but we have no idea of how bad your speech was.
If you do this then we will know how well your cure works because it will work even under the tension of showing a video of when you stuttered.
But we all know that you will never do this because:
1. Your speech was not that bad in the first place, and
2. If you did do it your cure would fall apart
i will bet you that michael does not answer this and he will ignore it, the mark of a real business man!!!
Thank you for posting this! I can relate as personally, as a mild stutterer in high school, I love doing impromptu as ideas and words just flow into my head. Last time I got the topic of Bolivia and somehow managed to pull off a 4 minute talk despite knowing nothing about it. What you said about reading is how I feel, reading aloud is hell as there are practically no ways to get over difficult words. Also formal speeches are bad as you prepare in advance and even though you try to avoid difficult words the nerves make it worse and it is just too hard to replace words on the day if you happen to stumble.
Overall I totally understand and agree with your points.
Lenny
01-30-2011, 06:10 PM
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
were you referring to yourself and your pregnancy with the man's picure in the foreground and the women in the background?
Steven
02-01-2011, 05:42 PM
Michael,
You said " People have tried to "cure" stuttering for ages. Therapists, doctors and many others have used a wide variety of techniques to help people who stutter-stammer. If something works, and does not harm the person, try it. One thing may work for you and not for someone else and vice-versa. Don't criticize the trick, or technique if you don't like it or it does not work for you because it may be just the technique or trick that helps someone else. "
The Better Business Bureau says that if someone is promising a cure don't believe it
I think I know why people are not into your website and what you are offering,
1. It does not really work and you are just trying to make some money and fame and self esteem for yourself so that YOUUR speech will improve because youi are in a position helping others, so you are "superior", being someone important and directing others and your speech improves as the result of helping others and being in charge and "calling the shots".
2 The techniques that you provide are really just a re-ordering and a new presentation of the SAME techniques that they have already tried and been thru and has not worked
3. You have indicated you were some kind of a preacher, preachers can be bullshit artists who know how to sell things and convince others to the truth about life and things even if it is not true--they preach a "belief" in something.
4. You have a company, slick e-mail capabilities, CDs made, advertising all in place, you have a company and are not a real healer
5. Your main advertising is "you are sitting on a goldmine", this is a cheap, slick attempt at putting a positive note ("goldmine") or face on a speech handicap that is anything but a goldmine The truth is that a person who stutters needs to get control of their speech and their life and then FIRST SEE if they can be more successful, not immediately have a goldmine!!!
6. You have revealed your subconscious thoughts by admitting that that is what YOU have in mind, YOUR GOLDMINE!!!!!
7. You talk about the subconscious mind like you know what you are talking about, as if you have FOUND IT, which you have not. You have no formal education in psychology or mind sciences which is no guarantee that you understand the subconscious mind but a really good start, your background is really that of a preacher, hey, we all know abouit preachers now don't we!!!!
8. YOU DON'T PROVIDE A VIDEO OF YOU TALKING BEFORE YOU IMPROVED YOUR SPEECH TO SHOW US WHAT YOU WERE LIKE AND HOW FAR YOU HAVE COME WITH YOUR SPEECH WHICH WOULD REALLY DO IT FOR YOU--because your speech was not that bad in the first place OR YOU COULD HAVE NEVER BEEN A PREACHER AT ALL IF YOUR SPEECH WAS THAT BAD, RIGHT EVERYONE??????????
9. AND IF YOUR SPEECH WAS REALLY GOOD WHILE YOU WERE PREACHING AND YOU HAD A SEVERE SPEECH PROBLEM OTHERWISE, THEN YOUR SPEECH WAS BETTER WHEN YOU WERE PREACHING OR PERSUADING PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN FANTASY LIKE STORIES, SOUGHT OF A RELIGIOUS CON MAN WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH YOUR "YOUR ARE SITTING ON A GOLDMINE" OR "THIS COULD HAVE AMAZING RESULTS"!!!!!!!
10. We don't trust you for the reasons above.
11. Hey Michael, what is your full time job what do you do to make a living?????????
Steven
02-04-2011, 04:09 PM
no one said this is groundbreaking. No one said it is new. But for someone it may be new or groundbreaking. Perhaps they've never thought of it before. The goal here is to give people as many options and different ways to overcome stuttering-stammering. Call it whatever you like, covert stutterers, tricks or anything else. . .if it helps a person develop a new and better way of speaking more fluently. . .use it.
This is a short-term approach not a long-term approach. On my site, which you criticize so much, i stress this and refer to the long-term approach as the recommended strategy to transition from stuttering to fluent speech. But i don't think you mentioned that because it seems you were too busy tearing down my comments rather than providing encouraging comments for other readers.
as long as a person mikey is switching words and avoiding words, they are not being themselves...yes they are "fluent" and that is fine but they are not themselves which is the real issue here. Hey mikey i see you have expanded to amazon.com and offering free stuff!!!!! Why should we be proving false positive comments to people that won't help them, you do that to establish your base and the mikey williams admiration society....
juancho
02-15-2011, 07:35 PM
I can see that from your replies that you are upset or even angry. You make comments, like I obviously never stuttered without actually knowing me. While I do not HAVE to defend myself, I will briefly say that I did stutter and stammer and still do sometimes in my second language Spanish. I also occasionally get stuck just like any other person who does not identify themselves as a stutterer-stammerer.
That being said, I now speak professionally in public, private and in regular conversations quite fluently without stuttering-stammering. This is something I could not say 15 years ago. Is it possible to reduce, minimize, and even eliminate stuttering? I say yes to all three. Some people learn to minimize others virtually eliminate it.
I'm simply offering an option. By the way, would you tell a therapist not to charge for his or her services? Would you tell an author sharing his or life experience and perhaps some solutions not to charge for their book, cd, video etc? Why is it a crime to offer resources for a nominal charge? Had you investigated a bit more closely, you might also have found that I also offer scholarships for those unable to pay.
The bottom line is that I use to stutter-stammer and now, for all practical purposes I do not. I can read, speak in public or private just as someone who has never stuttered-stammered. CAN YOU? If so, great. If not, then what are you doing to help people who cannot? Why are you spending your time criticizing people like me who are offering advice instead of figuring out how to speak more fluently yourself or helping others to do the same?
Woah... man that last paragraph is just plain rude. Braging about your fluency un a stuttering forum is just plain low.
No offence, but you are not a profesional therapist, neurologist or scientist, so donīt expect people to pay you for a couple of emails and video-conferences. Also, your stammering "cure" isnīt certified or aprooved by any organization, so you canīt expect us to have blind faith and pay for your program after all the sh*t that weīve been through.
Most importantly, stuttering has different causes and different symptoms on each PWS, so I find it hard to believe that you can have a generic cure for every sutterer without any scientific backup.
What 0000 says is very true, if I founded a cure for the burden that has f***ed up my life for 20 year, Iīd be more than happy to share it with the guys from the forum and every PWS for free (of course, unless I had spended big money on a pharmaceutical research to find a medical cure... which you havenīt... in that case charging is acceptble).
**Perhaps you should offer your program for free, Iīm sure that if it works, thousands of healed stutterers would donate you money for your awsome job, at least I would.
Oh and also big fail on the Rowan Atkinson example... Mr. Bean doesnīt even talks.:cool:
Peace,
Juan
Bass Cadet
02-15-2011, 07:42 PM
Michael, if you are/were a stutterer you would want other people who have the same affliction to have the knowledge to know how to control it.
If thats the case, tell us all how you overcame you stammer in detail without anyone having to buy your CD. Otherwise, you're just another leech trying to benefit from other peoples misfortune
Bruce
02-21-2011, 09:26 PM
I don't think michael was being rude talking about how well he speaksperhaps he should have said it in some other way.
I rhink if he tells us what he had to go thru to find his cure aand how much he lost out on in his life and how much it cost rhem an why and what he is charging I would be satisfied.
Bruce
02-21-2011, 09:39 PM
Michael, if you are/were a stutterer you would want other people who have the same affliction to have the knowledge to know how to control it.
If thats the case, tell us all how you overcame you stammer in detail without anyone having to buy your CD. Otherwise, you're just another leech trying to benefit from other peoples misfortune
Or tell us what your 20 year trip has cost you and what you missed out on to explain why you want to be reimbursed for your expenses I think that is fair?
were you referring to yourself and your pregnancy with the man's picure in the foreground and the women in the background?
Why the harrassment??? The man in the photo is ANDERSON COOPER, ever watch CNN??? You know, world news???
I think he is pregnant then.
HA!! some of these "men" on this site are so confused by my picture! you are right Tthomkatt, I am a girl! They went from harrassing Miko, to harrassing me.
now i think i know what michael's program is all about although he has been saying it all along.
his program is based upon the fact that you are sitting on a goldmine because there have been very well know people who have been successful because they overcame their stuttering.
except this is not true. we don't know if they overcame their stuttering outside of the medium we see them in. and they probably are successful in what they do not because of their stuttering but because they had talent in this area whether they stuttered or not.
maybe they are just successful because they are still switching words, avoiding words and using all kinds of mind games like yourself Michael.
your program is very unscientific and really all based upon inspiring yourself to think of stuttering as a goldmine and work it from a positive angle.
nothing wrong with this except that is what all stutterers do when they are fluent automatically, they already came up with your solution years ago and they know it does not work in the long run.
besides we still need to see a tape of you stuttering to see how bad your speech was until we do at least I plan to ignore your program.
be a man and tell us and or show us how bad your speech was.
hey tomkatt, why do you refer to amey as she when he is a man?
Lenny, I am starting to believe that you would prefer me as a man. You need to let this go. Thanks!
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