Stuttering not a speech Problem

[Jeff99]

Suttering i think is not a speech problem and here is why. When you are by yourself we talk perfect when talking to our pets to babies even young children.If it was a speech problem we wouldn't be able to talk like we do. i think stuttering is a social problem kinda the time i have the most problem is talking to people higher up that me like the police, teachers etc. he is way i think as children when the stutter first start we are young child can be mean because they don't understand so we are put do on a daily basic everytime we go to speak so over time in becames a huge problem for you when in public we feel all the feelings from our childhood so we feel small and not worthly i guess. that my reason i think it's not a speech problem

please give your view on the subject if you agree disagree even have your on view on what it is.

[studentdoc]

Suttering i think is not a speech problem and here is why. When you are by yourself we talk perfect when talking to our pets to babies even young children.If it was a speech problem we wouldn't be able to talk like we do. i think stuttering is a social problem kinda the time i have the most problem is talking to people higher up that me like the police, teachers etc. he is way i think as children when the stutter first start we are young child can be mean because they don't understand so we are put do on a daily basic everytime we go to speak so over time in becames a huge problem for you when in public we feel all the feelings from our childhood so we feel small and not worthly i guess. that my reason i think it's not a speech problem

please give your view on the subject if you agree disagree even have your on view on what it is.

I agree 100%. I think it is a symptom of another problem.

[Vermillion]

If it was a speech problem we wouldn't be able to talk like we do. i think stuttering is a social problem kinda the time i have the most problem is talking to people higher up that me like the police, teachers etc.

Then can you explain why 99% people with social anxiety disorder don't stutter?
Why do people with BIGGER fears of speaking than us don't stutter?

[bignick]

I agree with Vermillion.

[Supercell]

I think Jeff has hit it on the head. Funnily enough most other stutterers I know had school teachers for fathers. They would constantly criticise their son/daughter on the tinniest errors of their speech, which obviously made them a lot more aware of what they said. When they face other figures of power in society such as policemen etc etc they fear making the same tiny mistake as if it's something very important. And here is born a stutter.

[Standingtall]

I see your point, I can speak fine when alone, but as soon as someone walks into the room. Nobody is higher than me, but with people who have authority. When I got stopped for speeding, my hand was shaking when I gave the officer what he wanted to see. I watch my girls play and they stutter when speaking each other, but it almost seems normal to them. They don't break stride and yet they don't know the word Stutter or that is what they are doing it. I really don't know what other problems they may have. They are in pre-school for the past 2 years, so they are not that sheltered. I often wondered about that. When I read my girls stories, I don't stutter when I put emotion into it, to keep the girls involved in the story.

[claragazza]

What do you mean when you say that you can speak fine when you are alone? Does it mean that you speak as if you were fluent?
When I try to speak alone (I must say there are little opportunities -but I just had a try after reading your post to check it), I stutter all the same. Only, since I do not really want to communicate, I stop rather than trying to force words through my lips as usual.

[Standingtall]

What do you mean when you say that you can speak fine when you are alone? Does it mean that you speak as if you were fluent?
When I try to speak alone (I must say there are little opportunities -but I just had a try after reading your post to check it), I stutter all the same. Only, since I do not really want to communicate, I stop rather than trying to force words through my lips as usual.

Claire,
Yes, fluent. When you are alone, have an conversation with yourself. "Well, Claire, what is on the agenda today. Take the kids to school, pick up some grocies, (name each item) and what are we going to have for dinner". You can try read a book out loud, and see what happens. I sometimes stutter when reading out loud, but many times I have to reread because I didn't get the meaning. The brain reads faster than my mouth can move.

[Riverman]

Sorry, but I do not agree that stuttering is purely physcological.

I do not know much about dyslexia, so I apologise if I am talking complete rubbish and I do not want to offend anyone with the condition, but I often wonder if stuttering is similar to dyslexia.

Dyslexia has been established as congenital, it can occur at any level of intellectual ability and results in varying degrees of difficulty in learning when using words and sometimes symbols. So people of a high intellect can still have problems with processing language based information. There is no question as to whether people with dyslexia can read but the way the brain processes information affects the efficiency of reading, writing and spelling.

Riverman

[Standingtall]

So, you think there is a link there with stuttering and dyslexia. I don't know that much about it either, but I do know an couple of people with dyslexia. I don't have a problem with reading. Can you explain it more, this sounds interesting.

[Supercell]

You may all be aware that the brain is divided into 2 spheres (the left and the right). Put very simply, one sphere is used for emotive purposes and the other for cognitive (thinking). Believe it or not, we rely heavily on our brain when we speak. Most of the time we use the side of the brain concerned with thinking so that we make sense. However, we can also use the other side, for instance when singing, impersonating and as standing tall said just speaking emotionally when reading.

Those of you who know the famous singer Gareth Gates (maybe not if you are not in the UK) will remember him winning pop idol and not being able to string a sentence together because of a very bad stutter. Yet when he sings he is faultless.

One way I found worked was if I felt I was about to stutter I would put on a little accent. It worked quite well.

[Standingtall]

My girls will agree, as they have so much fun playing and stuttering to each other, they think it is normal.

[Jeff99]

You may all be aware that the brain is divided into 2 spheres (the left and the right). Put very simply, one sphere is used for emotive purposes and the other for cognitive (thinking). Believe it or not, we rely heavily on our brain when we speak. Most of the time we use the side of the brain concerned with thinking so that we make sense. However, we can also use the other side, for instance when singing, impersonating and as standing tall said just speaking emotionally when reading.

Those of you who know the famous singer Gareth Gates (maybe not if you are not in the UK) will remember him winning pop idol and not being able to string a sentence together because of a very bad stutter. Yet when he sings he is faultless.

One way I found worked was if I felt I was about to stutter I would put on a little accent. It worked quite well.


Have you heard Gareth Gates lately doing interveiw and that i have he now speaks really well.He is also now a course instructor on the McGuire programme in england.

[Jeff99]

Then can you explain why 99% people with social anxiety disorder don't stutter?
Why do people with BIGGER fears of speaking than us don't stutter?

First of all we don't have all the answers if we did then we would know how to fix it. but more on what you are saying interesting fact i didn't know that. inot saying it's all social problem but i'm saying is that what people see on the surface is only about 10% of the problem.Why do yu think speech therpy doesn't work for muost of us. they try to fix the speech rather than fix the under lining problem. everytime we go to speech we are put back into a child like state we think to much on what the person will think of us.we feel shame and alot of other negative thought before we even go to speak we have already given up. what do you think we your are about to speak something like don't stuff up or don't stutter something along that line. i know it's not totally social problem it's also got along to do with our diaphragm there are two part to our diaphragm the costal and the Crural we speak throught our Crural which is the one nears our gut so our gut moves the other the costal is high up in our chest the problem with the crural is that when we feel the cycle of blocking that diaphragm freezes stopping the air to pass through our Articulators and vocal cord. a Stutter or block is caused when there is no air passing through these things.

this has happened over time an 99% of people speak through this part of the diaphragm fine. the costal diaphragm nearly never get used apart from the times you play sport and are trying to catch your breath. so it doesn't freeze up if used correctly. the Mcguire programme and other porgrammes out there teaches u a new breathing habit along with all the other stuff.

So i guess stuttering is alot of things social, mental emotional and physical but i still don't think is a speech problem more of a social/mental porblem

i hope that helped sound good in my head don't know if it makes any sense or not. if you don't understand it tell me i will try to explain it better.

[Vermillion]

Well stuttering is a combination of things.
Physical, psychological, genetic. It involves the whole person.
If you work on the physical only, you will revert back to stuttering because you still have the fears and anxiety of public speaking.
If you work on the psychological only, you will be a positive thinking person who still stutters.

Speech therapists need to treat stuttering as a holistic issue.

[bignick]

I think stuttering is not a problem . . . It's those darn non-stutteres who make it seem like one!!! :mad:

WELL SAID.