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claragazza
05-19-2006, 10:55 AM
One thing that drives me mad to the point I would cry is when I try to enter discussions between a group.

Because it is hard for me to start a sentence in stressful situations, I have to wait for a proper opportunity to “dive in”, for instance, a silence a bit longer than usual between the interventions of the non-stutterers.

But even then, by the time I can get understandable words out of my mouth, there would always be someone that would have resumed the discussion, not noticing me. So I have to stop speaking, which is heart breaking.

Or, probably even worse, someone else has noticed my struggle and makes a gesture or a sign to let the one that has resumed speaking know that I am trying to speak. Then I find myself surrounded with people listening to me by politeness if not pity, but actually only waiting for the end to resume their “normal” conversation. This stresses me enormously and my speech is even worse. An anyway because I had to wait to find the proper time to speak, what I say is always a bit ridiculously outside of the subject, so no-one is interested, ... if they understand what I say. Generally, when I am over people would say kind of “oh, yes, certainly” … and continue the “real” discussion.

Although I make my best to try over and over again, this is always an awfully bitter experience.
Do you also experience the same feelings? Or did you find ways to overcome this problem?

In the past, I had tried a few things. For instance, in the beginning of my 20s, where I had more faith into myself, at least in small groups, when I wanted to speak, I grabbed the arm of the person speaking to “force” him or her to stop and listen. But my friends later let me know that this was too aggressive.
I also had a period when I tried not to stop speaking even when someone else had started at the same time as myself. But this is a game I of course never won, and, I ended up tiring more or less everyone. I had to stop because I felt people started to consider me as a nuisance.
Life is really hard…

bignick
05-19-2006, 11:09 AM
Claire,

I get the impression that you dont have a good opinion of yourself. I have been in the same situation as you regarding the entering into conversations and yes it was a struggle but if you feel you have something worthwhile to say, you should perservere and give your opinion. In my experience people are interested in what I tried to say and if they didnt agree they told me that.
I think it will help if you have some self belief in yourself and just remember you are as equal to everyone else in the group discussion and never feel like you are inferior to anyone. You have never said sorry for having a stutter, so use this same attitude and give your opinion and if you stutter, you stutter but at least you have said what you wanted to say.

I hope you begin to feel better about yourself and to be honest with you I wouldnt really care what people think except those that are really close.

I wish you every success in whatever you set out to do and dont forget this forum is here for people like us to get advice and a comforting arm around our shoulders when we feel down.

Nick

Standingtall
05-19-2006, 02:50 PM
One thing that drives me mad to the point I would cry is when I try to enter discussions between a group.

Because it is hard for me to start a sentence in stressful situations, I have to wait for a proper opportunity to “dive in”, for instance, a silence a bit longer than usual between the interventions of the non-stutterers.

But even then, by the time I can get understandable words out of my mouth, there would always be someone that would have resumed the discussion, not noticing me. So I have to stop speaking, which is heart breaking.

Or, probably even worse, someone else has noticed my struggle and makes a gesture or a sign to let the one that has resumed speaking know that I am trying to speak. Then I find myself surrounded with people listening to me by politeness if not pity, but actually only waiting for the end to resume their “normal” conversation. This stresses me enormously and my speech is even worse. An anyway because I had to wait to find the proper time to speak, what I say is always a bit ridiculously outside of the subject, so no-one is interested, ... if they understand what I say. Generally, when I am over people would say kind of “oh, yes, certainly” … and continue the “real” discussion.

Although I make my best to try over and over again, this is always an awfully bitter experience.
Do you also experience the same feelings? Or did you find ways to overcome this problem?

In the past, I had tried a few things. For instance, in the beginning of my 20s, where I had more faith into myself, at least in small groups, when I wanted to speak, I grabbed the arm of the person speaking to “force” him or her to stop and listen. But my friends later let me know that this was too aggressive.
I also had a period when I tried not to stop speaking even when someone else had started at the same time as myself. But this is a game I of course never won, and, I ended up tiring more or less everyone. I had to stop because I felt people started to consider me as a nuisance.
Life is really hard…

I do know how you feel. It would drive me crazy wanting to join in on a conversation. I have experience that, somebody talks at the same time you do and out of politness you stop. Some people just like to dominate the conversation, and at the slightest opportunity, that person will quickly cut you off.

I don't know if I overcame my problem, but our big boss of the building, when in a meeting. He will turn to me and say. "Well Eugene, you have been pretty quite, you have anything to add". Then I would go through some of the topics in the meeting. I don't see a problem with being somewhat aggressive if you really want to say something, even if other people don't want to hear it. Of course I stay away from heated discussions if it doesn't concern me.

I say, if the people you are with, know you and you stutter, they will let you speak. I know with my family and friends and some co-workers, when I start, it seems like somebody turned off the volume and the spot light is on me. I am getting use to that feeling.

sruti
05-19-2006, 10:32 PM
hi,
i can understand how you feel when you are part of a group.I had experienced such situations many a times, sometimes i used to cry when i go home after meeting people.but they really didnt know that i stammer,they always say that i am very silent .These things really irritate me sometimes.
But today i dont feel the same,because i realized what u think about yourself is more important.
keep on trying ,dont give up.try to be cool .
sruti

Anthony
05-20-2006, 01:28 AM
what you be suprised to know that most people really don't care if we stutter or not,especially our friends.

WE might care but i really doubt they care.they wouldn't be your friend if i did that.it took me a long time to realize that stuttering isn't some strange thing that people have never heard of.its not real common but most of the time people won't even react differently.

we seem to get a few bad experiences stuck in our heads and we tend to think EVERYBODY thinks like that,but they don't

Standingtall
05-23-2006, 02:49 PM
I agree with you guys. A little aggression doesn't hurt, if they know you are being respectful. Many of us make it a big deal about our speech, but for other people it is the message. Unless of course you are at a AA meeting and your telling eveybody about your party over the weekend and what a great time you had.