Can't talk!!

[happy7117]

This confuses me..

If anyone know what muteness is, it's where
a person cannot talk at all, or does not talk at all..

But have you ever heard someone say about
a stutterer that they "can't talk"??

Or have you ever heard of someone saying
that a stutterer is someone who cannot talk??

I often get confused with a mute person who
cannot talk, from a stutterer who cannot talk...

When a person says a stutterer cannot talk,
it makes me think the stuttering person is
a mute person which he is not...

Anyone want to help me clarify why people
would say a stutterer cannot talk when it's
not true.. a person who cannot talk is called a mute!!

My dad said this to my conseler who is a friend
of my family and I, and I was confused by it-I
thought he was saying I was mute which I'm not!!

Why could he have said that when it's not true--

My father has sort of stumped me when he said
that!!

A stuttering person is not a mute person!!

[BenLZ]

It would certainly make things a lot simpler if I couldn't talk.

[happy7117]

I would much rather be a fully happy
confident mute person, who would
have to communicate by other
means than to be an incoherent
stutterer!!

This may sound strange, but a mute person
is way more understandable than a stutterer...

A mute person has no trouble conveying his
ideas with hands or sign language, than
a stutterer has not being able to get words
out as he wants..

So although a mute cannot verbaly communicate
--he can communicate in other ways that can be
understood- but for a stutterer who is clearly
not mute, it's a nightmare for him to talk....

[happy7117]

You can always learn ASL. My kids do it and they are not mute. ;)

Hey-- more power to your kids!!
Anything that helps a person is
OK!!

I never really thought about giving sign language
a try to compensate for the stuttering--I thought
sign language is used by deaf or mute people--
it would be easier for the stutterer to use
sign language to talk, but I think if people
saw a stutterer use sign language, they
would think he is a deaf stutterer---plus
I'm still holding out hope that the right
treatment will come along where I will not
want to be a mute to deal with stuttering!

[happy7117]

When referring to a mute who cannot talk, people in general are referring to the "action" of talking or the inability to produce coherent sound that the ear interprets as words. They do, indeed produce some sort of sound, but upon exiting the mouth this sound does not form words.

On the other hand, when referring to a stutterer who cannot talk, people in general refer to a person who is unable to maintain fluency whilst talking. The "action" of talking is present; however, the fluidity of the speech is distorted.

And this, my friend, is my (totally) unprofessional explanation since I am in no way associated by profession to speech therapy or speech pathology.

Sounds like a good explanation
to me..

A person who cannot maintain fluency while
talking is stuttering of course, but saying a
stutter cannot talk seems kind of demaning-it
makes it sound like a stutterer is messed
up--

Like earlier when I was stuttering while talking
to my mom--was I talking incoherantly to her, or
was I not talking to her, but stuttering to her!!

[sruti]

Even i feel sometimes that life would be much better and i would be happy by being dumb rather than having speech problem,but i am not sure how far i am right.

[sruti]

even i sometimes feel that life would be much better and i would be more happy by being dumb rather than having a speech problem.but i am not sure how far i am right.

[Standingtall]

This confuses me..

If anyone know what muteness is, it's where
a person cannot talk at all, or does not talk at all..

I have read the James Earl Jones book and he made comments to being mute and I have used it. I was pretty much mute in my teenage years. For example When people ask me the time, inside of telling them, I pull up my sleeve and show them my watch so they can see it themselves. I got the impression Mute means, stop yourself from talking, keeping silent on purpose or keep my big mouth shut.

I though about learning sign language myself many years back, and it is a good skill to learn. I assume many of them are more frustrated than we are, because they are limited to who they can make hand signals too. I was in this department store and was going to ask this person on the floor, stocking the shelves, where I can find this and that. He turned and pointed at a sticker on his chest, 'I can't speak, please ask someone else'. I didn't know the basics at the time, I just smiled and left.

I have done some looking and found out that my cultural use a form of sign language and I have learned a lot and now I can understand many of the old timers. I remember I was really young, and my uncle, who is a blackfoot, say a few words to me mixed in with a form of sign language. It is pretty cool to see this in action and understand it.

[nbakunda]

i guess u have never met a stutterer that cannot talk. talking is a form of verbal communication. and communication is the action so to speak of conveying a message. when u cannot get the words out, u cannot covey the message and hence u cannot talk. i know exactly what yo dad meant.

[happy7117]

i guess u have never met a stutterer that cannot talk. talking is a form of verbal communication. and communication is the action so to speak of conveying a message. when u cannot get the words out, u cannot covey the message and hence u cannot talk. i know exactly what yo dad meant.

Well is incoherant gibberish which is stuttering
mean the same as talking....

If making sounds to form words are talking,
then wouldnt stuttering be a kind of talking??

You may not be able to get words across
right, but isn't the act of opening your mouth
and trying to form words considered talking too??

Maybe I'm reading to much into this!!---

Does gibberish also mean one can't talk---!!

[llw03c]

um..don't you have to talk so as to actually reveal that you stutter? talking to me is producing sounds that others understand in a language. when we stutter, people understand us or they wouldn't try to finish the words. talking doesn't necessarily mean fluency to me.

[happy7117]

I person who cannot talk is a mute..a person
who can talk but with extreme stuttering is
speech impaired.....that's how I would call it..

A person who stutterers excessively is not
a person who cannot talk--but extremely speech
impaired....

So when some say a stutterer cannot talk,
they could be saying a stutterer is mute!!

I know many may have many opinions on
this- but that's why were here!!

[nbakunda]

[QUOTE=happy7117]I person who cannot talk is a mute..a person
who can talk but with extreme stuttering is
speech impaired.....that's how I would call it..

and i stand corrected. true. :)
nate

[happy7117]

At least now I will not be confused
between extreme stuttering, and one
who cannot talk...thank you for clarifying!