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aKoChiC86
10-13-2006, 12:15 AM
I was taking this spanish oral class,
and the long-awaited oral exposicion was at hand.

I have stuttered on almost every exercise we had before, so they knew about my stuttering.
At one point, I just froze time for 10seconds while reading a bit, I felt all eyes on me.

So, time for the oral speech/presentation.
I came prepared, knew my subject well, had excellent vocabulary and well structure on the prepared paper.
My hopes were quite good, I felt, "yes, I'm gonna make ammend for the bad stuttering in the past classes"

I stuttered, and at times, froze...:( , during the talking, and---- I even switched my correct grammar, to other similar words (in the wrong tempus now!) to not stutter, sunk my grade for sure I think...

Anyway, at the end of the speech, the second after I said "well, that pretty much sums up my vacation", I received massive applauds :)
While other speakers got some less instant applauding.

Well, I felt releived, like a burdain had been tossed away.

Later, I started to feel depressed again, as I thought I was going to handle the speech better, by remembering "techniques" and so...

So where am I going with this, well...

- have any of you had your grades affected because of stuttering during oral exams?

- any of you really paused, sighing openly when talking to class, like totally reveiling your struggle? it was quite liberating I'd say..

Requiem
10-13-2006, 12:42 AM
I speak Moroccan (arabic) as a second language and I find that speaking a different language triggers my stutter a lot more than usual. I remember when I was in school I was in my last year and we had to do arabic as a language subject. It was a reading, writing, listening and speaking exam. Everybody knew about my stutter and my teacher prefered that I skipped the speaking exam so that it would be a lot easier for me. I wasn't happy with that because it wasn't my intension that I skip a subject because in the first place it would deduct points which I was not prepared to let happen. And I thought it would be good for to take the speaking exam, despite me stuttering all the live long day, it would be good that I could actually achieve something. in the end I wasn't allowed to do the peaking exam and when I had my results I ended up with a grade D, to which I failed. If I had taken the speaking exam, I would've had atleast a few more marks to add to my other results. I was more hurt that they didn't let me take the exam and they said to me that they just didn't have the time to deal with me. Even when I complained there was nothing done about it.

At least you took the plunge and did the exam, it takes guts to do that. Really brave.

aKoChiC86
10-13-2006, 01:07 AM
Man, I am quite schocked; THEY didnt let you do the exam?, even though you wanted to - and yes to ACHIEVE sometihng, that was the idea that carried me through).

I would have been hurt as well, if they didnt let me.
I skipped a presentation earlier in my college-years, and ended up failing the course...
I wasn't helping myself my avoiding the stutter-occasion, it just felt ncie at the time. But I missed a oppurtunity to gain something, gain self-satisfaction.

I believe my stuttering in the recent years have opened me up, I am now more open about it (if not telling about it, I at least let people know by not keeping quiet!).

In that way, stuttering ¨could be positive..
but I sure as sh*t would prefer not ahving it :):)

happy7117
10-13-2006, 03:00 AM
I'm not sure if this counts or not, but when I took Spanish back in High School, the teacher knew of my stutter, and she accomodated me for it...

She asked me if I would like to do the oral speaking tests for any Spanish vocabulary we would have to know...I had the same Spanish teacher for study hall later in the day, and I did the Speaking tests during study hall..although I still stutterered..it was much easier doing it without a class of students to hear me, but in front of her only...the study hall was only of a few kids..so I felt much more at ease...

Always if I had to do any oral presentation at school as part of a class assignment, I would get asked before or after class if I would like to do the presentation...

If I felt comfortable enough to do an oral presentation, I would say "OK!" But if not it, I would be allowed to do a little extra credit in place of the actual presentation...

So my teachers were pretty understanding and lenient, and it just made me have greater appreciation for them...

My 8th grade science teacher was the best teacher I ever had, and I have never meant that so much..we got along famously, and she was a best friend to each and every student, she had a way to make us students feel special.. and her husband who taught 7th grade Math in the same school was a big teddy bear who used jokes and gags as his way of teaching..I took a shine to these 2 teachers the very first day...

And my English teacher made us do skits as to make us as students feel apart of what we were learning, and she viewed my stuttering as not a problem, and acting as another person in these little class skits made me feel like "another person" where I took on another persona, and did not make me feel like the stutterer which I was...

I was deeply sad at leaving a great time and school behind where I was free to enjoy myself and learn where no one cared or judged how I sounded...

Standingtall
10-13-2006, 04:49 PM
I was taking this spanish oral class,
and the long-awaited oral exposicion was at hand.

I have stuttered on almost every exercise we had before, so they knew about my stuttering.
At one point, I just froze time for 10seconds while reading a bit, I felt all eyes on me.

So, time for the oral speech/presentation.
I came prepared, knew my subject well, had excellent vocabulary and well structure on the prepared paper.
My hopes were quite good, I felt, "yes, I'm gonna make ammend for the bad stuttering in the past classes"

I stuttered, and at times, froze...:( , during the talking, and---- I even switched my correct grammar, to other similar words (in the wrong tempus now!) to not stutter, sunk my grade for sure I think...

Anyway, at the end of the speech, the second after I said "well, that pretty much sums up my vacation", I received massive applauds :)
While other speakers got some less instant applauding.

Well, I felt releived, like a burdain had been tossed away.

Later, I started to feel depressed again, as I thought I was going to handle the speech better, by remembering "techniques" and so...

So where am I going with this, well...

- have any of you had your grades affected because of stuttering during oral exams?

- any of you really paused, sighing openly when talking to class, like totally reveiling your struggle? it was quite liberating I'd say..
That is great news, now you got respect and support from you class mates. Well done.

aKoChiC86
10-13-2006, 04:53 PM
Thank you,.. yes I really opened up, willingly or not.. :)

But I still feel a bit embarassed when I meet them today, like Iäm the great stutterer, let's avoid talking to him, he may freak out. Well thats not true, but I feel a bit awkward..

Standingtall
10-13-2006, 04:56 PM
I speak Moroccan (arabic) as a second language and I find that speaking a different language triggers my stutter a lot more than usual. I remember when I was in school I was in my last year and we had to do arabic as a language subject. It was a reading, writing, listening and speaking exam. Everybody knew about my stutter and my teacher prefered that I skipped the speaking exam so that it would be a lot easier for me. I wasn't happy with that because it wasn't my intension that I skip a subject because in the first place it would deduct points which I was not prepared to let happen. And I thought it would be good for to take the speaking exam, despite me stuttering all the live long day, it would be good that I could actually achieve something. in the end I wasn't allowed to do the peaking exam and when I had my results I ended up with a grade D, to which I failed. If I had taken the speaking exam, I would've had atleast a few more marks to add to my other results. I was more hurt that they didn't let me take the exam and they said to me that they just didn't have the time to deal with me. Even when I complained there was nothing done about it.

At least you took the plunge and did the exam, it takes guts to do that. Really brave.
I am also shocked. You should have wrote the school. I skipped class once, to avoid speaking out to the class. I was seen by my teacher roaming the hall ways. She recommend me to an speach therapist in the elementary school, after an quick test, she told me she couldn't help me, because I was in high school. My self-esteem was pretty low at the time, so I didn't do nothing about it. Today, it would be a different story.

Requiem
10-13-2006, 11:49 PM
I did make a complaint about it but there was nothing done about it because the teachers all agreed with each other thinking they all did the right thing by not allowing me to speak for myself. You see, most of the reason why I developed a stutter is because I had a bad experience in school for 11 years. I was bullied by both students and the teachers because I different from everyone in terms of where I am from and my vulnerability. I'm half Irish and half Moroccan and about 95% of the school were all either Pakistani or Indian or Bengali and I was treated really badly because I wasn't the same as everyone or as wealthy as everyone else so I was picked on for it. I wasn't even a very high achiever so I wasn't given any help for apart from those whom they favoured and the high achievers were helped even more. When it came to parents evenings they complain about how my grades never boosted up and when my parents asked them why they can't tutor me they all reply "we haven't got the time for her" so eventually I had to struggle on my own. Sending me to another school wasn't what my mum wanted me to do because she didn't think I would survive in another school because I was always shy and quiet and the schools in my area were quite rough. Anyway I also discovered I have Dyslexia which is why I failed in most subjects, the teachers all knew about it and never bothered to do anything about it let alone tell me. I found out when I got into college but thank god I get support for everything now and studying couldn't be any better.

What the worst thing about being in school was that the teachers would purposly pick me to read out in front of the class and read out when they knew how uncomfortable I was about reading and stuttering. But they made me read out and they all enjoyed it as if was entertainment, listening to my stuttering and everybody laughing at me, students and teachers included.

aKoChiC86
10-14-2006, 11:02 AM
I feel you...
Those years in school must've been hard, as you said; I don't understand how the TEACHERS, can act like that, and also the rest of the class bullying, laughing while struggling with speech.
They were immature, at least.

I'm glad to hear that nowadays you get support from every corner, you truly deserve it.

Best of luck,

Standingtall
10-17-2006, 04:02 PM
I did make a complaint about it but there was nothing done about it because the teachers all agreed with each other thinking they all did the right thing by not allowing me to speak for myself. You see, most of the reason why I developed a stutter is because I had a bad experience in school for 11 years. I was bullied by both students and the teachers because I different from everyone in terms of where I am from and my vulnerability. I'm half Irish and half Moroccan and about 95% of the school were all either Pakistani or Indian or Bengali and I was treated really badly because I wasn't the same as everyone or as wealthy as everyone else so I was picked on for it. I wasn't even a very high achiever so I wasn't given any help for apart from those whom they favoured and the high achievers were helped even more. When it came to parents evenings they complain about how my grades never boosted up and when my parents asked them why they can't tutor me they all reply "we haven't got the time for her" so eventually I had to struggle on my own. Sending me to another school wasn't what my mum wanted me to do because she didn't think I would survive in another school because I was always shy and quiet and the schools in my area were quite rough. Anyway I also discovered I have Dyslexia which is why I failed in most subjects, the teachers all knew about it and never bothered to do anything about it let alone tell me. I found out when I got into college but thank god I get support for everything now and studying couldn't be any better.

What the worst thing about being in school was that the teachers would purposly pick me to read out in front of the class and read out when they knew how uncomfortable I was about reading and stuttering. But they made me read out and they all enjoyed it as if was entertainment, listening to my stuttering and everybody laughing at me, students and teachers included.
I hear you, i learned about my stutter in school. Trying to impress this one teachers that everyone seems to like. In hight school I was in the minority also, less than 1 percent of the school's populations. Take comfort, I understand your feelings.

Requiem
10-17-2006, 11:36 PM
I guess we have all gone thru the "getting to know myself" stage. That stage can be a double edge sword . . . It can really work well if you accept your stutter as a permanent fixture . . . Or, it can go bottoms up very quickly if you let the stutter take control of your self-appreciation.

Peace,

Elliott

Oh I do accept my stammer, about 2 years ago I learned to just accept it because it's going to stick with me whether I like it or not, so the best thing I could do for myself was to get the help and support I need and face my fears. Even though I still do get self-contious about it, I'm still hanging in there.:) It's just the humiliation I had to put up with in school was just terrible that I ended up with a breakdown at the age of 15 along with other problems. I'm just so thankful that I'm out of that school and I won't have to worry about those tossers anymore and concentrate on the future.

Standingtall
10-18-2006, 03:33 PM
Lucky you :D

I am 40 years old and I am still not out of school. But then again, I am quite persistent and am convinced that the more education I get the better prepared I am to face those who look down at us stutterers and have them change the way they think about us. Some fluent people think that becasue a person has a stutter or an accent (I have both) it means that we are ignorant (or stupid). I have made it my goal to prove them wrong and through continued education I am doing so.

Peace,

Elliott
Move over, i'm jumping on the wagon with you. I too i'm a big believer in continue education. I too want to prove that I am not stupid, just sharing this knowledge verbally is where the breakdown occurs.

Printz
10-31-2006, 02:03 PM
I was taking this spanish oral class,
and the long-awaited oral exposicion was at hand.

I have stuttered on almost every exercise we had before, so they knew about my stuttering.
At one point, I just froze time for 10seconds while reading a bit, I felt all eyes on me.

So, time for the oral speech/presentation.
I came prepared, knew my subject well, had excellent vocabulary and well structure on the prepared paper.
My hopes were quite good, I felt, "yes, I'm gonna make ammend for the bad stuttering in the past classes"

I stuttered, and at times, froze...:( , during the talking, and---- I even switched my correct grammar, to other similar words (in the wrong tempus now!) to not stutter, sunk my grade for sure I think...

Anyway, at the end of the speech, the second after I said "well, that pretty much sums up my vacation", I received massive applauds :)
While other speakers got some less instant applauding.

Well, I felt releived, like a burdain had been tossed away.

Later, I started to feel depressed again, as I thought I was going to handle the speech better, by remembering "techniques" and so...

So where am I going with this, well...

- have any of you had your grades affected because of stuttering during oral exams?

- any of you really paused, sighing openly when talking to class, like totally reveiling your struggle? it was quite liberating I'd say..

That's great. I think you were brave to do that and you earned a lot of respect. You shouldn't beat yourself up for what you did, you should be proud that you did it. Next time you stand up in front of people like that you will do even better.