http://StutteringForum.com/forums/ stuttering, stammering, stutter, stammer en Fri, 18 May 2012 03:51:33 GMT vBulletin 60 http://stutteringforum.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://StutteringForum.com/forums/ http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8731&goto=newpost Sat, 12 May 2012 10:49:58 GMT i've had started to do stuttering exercises twice, both for about several weeks. i guess those excercises were pretty standard, e.g. repeating syllables and words over and over again, mouth gymnastics, trying to exhale as long as possible and so on.
i don't know why but in both cases doing those excercises caused my speech to get worse. did any one experienced the same? it seems to be the similiar case as with paying attention to my speech. the more i pay attention to my speech, the more i start to stutter over a period of time. this even applies to case when i'm trying to pay attention to speak deliberately slow, it makes me stuttering more. can you share any thougts of yours about such issue? ]]> Stuttering Forum aenoisi http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8731 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8730&goto=newpost Thu, 10 May 2012 19:40:33 GMT Hello All My name is Andrew and I am 23 years old. I have been stuttering since a child and it caused me a lot of anxiety through the years. Most of my earliest memories are dealing with stuttering. I was in 3rd grade and had to give an oral presentation on the planet Jupiter. I remember being... Hello All

My name is Andrew and I am 23 years old. I have been stuttering since a child and it caused me a lot of anxiety through the years. Most of my earliest memories are dealing with stuttering. I was in 3rd grade and had to give an oral presentation on the planet Jupiter. I remember being nervous about not being able to say the word Jupiter. I could sing it though, and whenever I had to say it during the presentation I would sing Ju-Pi-Ter! :)

For most of my life I felt like I was two different people. There was the me who could speak fluently when I was with my friends, caught in the moment, and there was the anxious me who had to speak on the phone, talk in front of the class. I managed to "corner" my stuttering into a few niche areas of my life, and many of my friends who I have known for years would have never known I even stuttered.

I remember in 8th grade having two classes back to back. In one I would be anxious, avoid speaking by going to the bathroom at key times, play stupid saying I didn't know the answer to questions... and in the other I was the most confident kid, raising my hand to answer questions and even volunteering to speak in front of the class. I found this the strangest thing - How could I be two different people? I asked myself.

College was similar to my experiences in Middle School. I seemed to speak fine for every oral presentation I had to do. I even took a class "Intro to Acting" and got an A, never stuttering. However, this all changed my senior year when I had to give a lengthy presentation for my Senior Seminar class. I was so nervous leading up to the presentation, and it was an absolute train wreck. I seemed to block on almost every fourth or fifth word. I remember looking into my class and my fellow students had to turn their heads and few would look at me. It was very embarrassing.

Well, these are just a few of the key moments that stick out in my life. My stuttering has taught me a lot - it's taught me to be introverted and value the "inner world", as well as taught me lessons in compassion and tolerance towards all people. I don't have the energy or desire to be mean to others because I spend it all on myself, lol.

I'm not sure why I decided to register on these forums. I suppose I'm looking to connect with people who have really thrown themselves out there, and what they have learned. I know there is no "quick fix" and I have a lot of pain ahead. Today I tried to call back a lady for a job interview and I hung up the phone two times out of fear to begin talking. I think that is what I hate the most, not being able to even try. Sometimes I feel it would be easier to go into a cage and fight a lion then to face stuttering. I think it is natural to resist pain, but sometimes holding back causes us more pain in the long run. Tomorrow will bring another day and I have my dreams bring me inspiration and courage tonight.

Sorry for the 'wall-o-text'!
- Andrew ]]> Introduce Yourself DooPA http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8730 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8729&goto=newpost Mon, 07 May 2012 22:21:03 GMT Hi, I'm Santiago . I really don't know since when i'm stutter. I just forget In my mind,I don't remember if I stutter last month .I don't know any one have this problem but when I try to talk more then stutter I don't know what I'm saying I just lost on my mind and finally I say nothing I talk a lot saying nothing, I don't know how to explain myself.I move my hands try to describe with my hands what I try to say very extressfull. Also writing sentences is very hard to me for some reason. My language is spanish and the same in my spanish I just lost in what I'm typing. :confused:
I have a dreams when I was a child, Like words and letters come out my feet I was on the floor try to reach my mom and those letters keep coming from my feet sometimes was books and words and I was awake my mom say try to organize the letters and make words and that's what I try to do. Strange!!:o
Anyway I'm a normal guy PC programmer, control ingenering, electrician. I never get depress and things don't bother me!. :D Sorry my english and sorry my sentences . ]]> Introduce Yourself massam http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8729 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8728&goto=newpost Sun, 06 May 2012 23:25:29 GMT my name is christina, just joined. i stutter when i say my name. usually a pause then i finally get it out. when im thinking about it so much i get anxiety about saying it. can someone please help me? i get really upset about it too. my name is christina, just joined. i stutter when i say my name. usually a pause then i finally get it out. when im thinking about it so much i get anxiety about saying it. can someone please help me? i get really upset about it too. ]]> Introduce Yourself clfisc http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8728 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8726&goto=newpost Sun, 06 May 2012 16:51:30 GMT Hey I am new to the forum, my names David I'm 25 from Syracuse - I'm hoping to be an active member on this board and hopefully meet some people. I've been in therapy off and on for a total of 15 years and my journey continues but positive outcomes are coming soon. I had a strong period of time when I was fluent for years during the end of HS and college, when I entered grad school I lost control. I am just beginning to find it a again now a few years later.

Hope to talk to you soon. ]]> Introduce Yourself Davidwmw http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8726 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8725&goto=newpost Sat, 05 May 2012 18:59:30 GMT Hi to all my fellow stutterers worldwide. I feel like our disorder is unique and it is IMPOSSIBLE to understand it unless you do stutter yourself. It is a pleasure to be here

I have recently just turned 20 and will be in my third year of college in fall 2012. I've been stuttering my whole life, which has been accompanied by extreme depression, shame, guilt, hate, anxiety, you name it. I have three failed attempts and I don't like to think about them-it's kind of awkward...
I'm not sure of the purpose of life, but I do believe in the pursuit of happiness because to me that's all that matters. Recently I've been taking steps to enable my happiness but I keep getting down on myself for stuttering. I lack communication skills and my relationships are taking a hit because I'm just not myself. Therapy has told me that I won't be happy until I accept my disability... I'm wondering what keeps your head up everyday in a world that always seems to bring me down. Thanks ]]> Introduce Yourself Tiger http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8725 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8724&goto=newpost Sat, 05 May 2012 10:29:54 GMT I am just looking to see how other people have and can cope(d) with stuttering because I am starting to realize that I am not doing well in that department. A basic summary of my life and how stuttering has affected it goes like this. I am in college I have stuttered my whole life and my goto... I am just looking to see how other people have and can cope(d) with stuttering because I am starting to realize that I am not doing well in that department. A basic summary of my life and how stuttering has affected it goes like this. I am in college I have stuttered my whole life and my goto coping mechanism throughout that time has been to say as little as humanly possible without crossing the line into looking like a retard/wierdo/dumbass. I literally have only talked when it was absolutely required of me (not literally, after periods of doing this for a while I start to believe in myself and try to talk to people but run into the same problems which then causes me to go back to talking only when necessary and so on). For example I have never started and maintained a conversation. On the off chance that I do make an audible comment that someone else responds to a tend to follow that up with a comment that immediately closes the prospect of a conversation. And as soon as someone starts a conversation I am looking for a way out of it. Naturally I have very very few friends just a lot acquaintances or sub-acquaintances(people I always SEE) and naturally I want more but whenever my want for more people in my life builds to the point where I actually try to do something about it(talking/having meaningful and memorable conversations) I perform so badly in every sentence ie opening my mouth and not being able to get the first word out ,or starting smoothly only to get stuck mid sentence that after the terrible conversation ends I come to the conclusion that I would rather live life by myself rather than do that everyday in every conversation with potential future friends. The anger at myself is immense after these conversations I feel like the absolute biggest piece of shit. The thing that makes me the most upset is that I come away looking like a very dumb person and that is the absolute last thing I want anyone to think about me. I would rather have people make fun of me because of my stutter and understand that I am (more...) intelligent(...than they are) than I would want them to perceive me as stupid or simple or literally retarded which I fear and suspect is the case most of the time. Because perception is reality, whats the use of knowing everything if you cannot communicate anything. I have a shit ton of information in my head but I can never express it and whenever I try the above happens.

I could very easily keep rambling semi coherently but I will just ask my questions.

1. How can I deal with stuttering immediately after it happens other than limiting my speaking?

2. How do I iterate to people that I am not stupid(my biggest fear) after a display of shear stupidity?

3.How can I make a connections to people (mainly girls because I have lived and can live without friends but I can't remain without a girl to f*** that doesn't involve me paying) wihtout talking?

4. How do some of you guys fight through the stuttering? I must be a weak person because I can not do that. I try to tell myself not to care about what others thinks but then I think that the way we are perceived is who we are. How do you just not give an f of what people think? seriously

The way I see my life going is me graduating from college getting some job that will put up with my stuttering living alone spending my disposable income on s.

any advice to alter this course would be appreciated ]]> Stuttering Forum nameuser http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8724 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8723&goto=newpost Sat, 05 May 2012 05:20:30 GMT Hi Everyone,

Just wondering if anyone chats regularly over for speech practice. I'm interested in trying this so if anyone would to please let me know.

Cheers,
Jacob ]]> Stuttering Forum jrfry http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8723 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8722&goto=newpost Fri, 04 May 2012 03:18:29 GMT Hey Everyone,

My name is Jacob and I've been stuttering since primary school. I get big blocks and the funky facial contortions which come with them.

In 2006 I was taught the Smooth Speech technique at the University of Sydney. This was a turning point for me and my speech was much much better after this.

Lately however I have started to stutter again so I'm trying to find ways to maintain my fluency. I have been practising reading out loud however I would like to find some other people to practice with. I am very interested in practicing speech over so please let me know if you would like to. Currently I am travelling so the time differences might be wack but I'm sure we can work something out!

In addition to the Smooth Speech technique I am interested in meditation practice. This is not for everyone, and I can't say for sure whether it has made a difference, but I think it helps me stay calm in speaking situations and deal with the social anxiety aspects of being a stutterer.

Cheers,
Jacob ]]> Introduce Yourself jrfry http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8722 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8721&goto=newpost Thu, 03 May 2012 20:42:08 GMT Preamble -It’s not the situation itself that generates stress but the perception we have of it. Also, before a stressful situation, there is an automatic interior answer that is not managed by our will. For fluent people, the answer is proportional to the level of stress. If the stress lasts for... Preamble
-It’s not the situation itself that generates stress but the perception we have of it. Also, before a stressful situation, there is an automatic interior answer that is not managed by our will. For fluent people, the answer is proportional to the level of stress. If the stress lasts for a certain period of time, that answer will be recorded and served by the organism each time there is some stress and it will not be anymore proportional to the present level of stress but to the past one that occurred so often that the mind decided to record it as in the Pavlov experience. The principle of this answer is to offer more energy to the vital functions to help them face stress and its main consequence is the lack of energy for non vital ones like speaking. Therefore, stuttering is the result of a wider deployment of energy for vital functions at the expense of non vital ones. All that will help mitigate that automatic answer will set free more energy that will go to non vital one and will ease speech. That’s the of techniques that try to control stuttering. To cure it, it will be necessary to uninstall that automatic answer that demands more energy for vital functions when it’s not necessary.
Definition
Someone is stuttering when he/she is having hard time to talk about simple things while there is no pressure coming from the environment.
Type I and Type II
One of the reasons why there is so much confusion about stuttering is that no difference has been clearly made between people who stutter even when they are alone (type I) and those who don't do it when they are alone (type II). My attempt of theory concern more type II and my hypothesis is that those who are dealing with type I should scarcely have stuttering as their unique problem as it should be caused by a deficit in the maturation of their brain and its manifestations should be quite the same than the one kids are facing when they start to talk. Their stuttering should be scarcely fluctuant even if it’s still caused by a shortage in the quantity of energy necessary to produce speech but the difference will come from the reason of that shortage. For type II, it is because of an answer recorded by the brain to face stress (psychological) and for type I by an insufficiency in the maturation of the brain (neurological) and one of the reasons why stuttering is still a riddle is that what is valid for type I is not necessarily valid for type II.
Why stuttering?
Nowadays, speaking fluently and clearly is one the best qualities required to thrive in society. But speaking isn’t the only function existing in human being. We have to defend our body from the interior and exterior attacks, preserve our interior equilibrium, finance our muscle tension, the circulation, the operation of the heart, think, see, hear, make the metabolism works well, preserve our temperature… These different functions can be vital (in case of a failure life becomes in a serious danger) or non vital (without them, we still can survive) and are using the same energy for their operation. This is a distinction made by Mother Nature and that energy is managed by a dictator in us, not by our own will. Its strategy is to offer first the needed energy to vital functions and if there is something left, it goes to non vital ones like speaking, thinking (functions that have real value in society). In situation of stress, more energy is required for vital functions to face that threat and there will be less left for non vital one, mainly for an energy-guzzling like speaking. An examination of how the brain works during stuttering shows that there is more activity in the right hemisphere than in the left one. Unlike those who think that stutterers try to talk with their right hemisphere, my hypothesis through that observation is that right hemisphere is the seat of vital functions and people whose Broca and Wernicke’s areas are in the right side of the brain will never face type II stuttering.
As long as life is not in danger, the priority goes to the mental equilibrium that is to say that, if necessary, the mental will receive a preferential treatment at the expense of the body: psychosomatic conversion is an illustration. But when the existence of the person itself is thoroughly threatened, the energy that was used to protect the equilibrium of the mental from the backflows is even recuperated to intensify the struggle for the defense of life: reason why delusions appear when the disease has peaked.
The mechanism
In everyday life, fluent persons can happen to face ephemeral stuttering, surely in situation of stress. How come stress may affect speech?
To my small mind's eyes, this is what happens with type II.
Any stressful situation requires an answer which is modeled on the level of the stress generated. The answer will be to provide the needed energy to secure the correct operation of the interior equilibrium; vital functions take more energy to face stress. As they use more of a constant quantity, there will be less left for the non vital ones like speaking that requires a minimum of energy to be produced fluently. That mechanism of direct debit is valid for fluent people and is even more for stutterers. But for fluent people, when the stress is away or they are used to the situation, their speech becomes fluid like in normal situations and their answer in situation of stress will still be modeled on the level of the present stress.
So how come stutterers keep on having block when there is almost no stress around them (talking on the phone, introducing themselves, discussing in a friendly environment…) ? If the direct debit mechanism operates on anybody, it should exist another mechanism that is the difference of principle between type II stutterers and fluent people.
On that point, the experience of Pavlov will be our support. If stress happens scarcely, it will never lead to type II stuttering. But if it’s recurrent because of family move, family conflict, intimidation on the street, at school, birth of a sibling…, the brain will record a physiological answer modeled on the recurrent stress and will serve it by anticipation each time it detects a small level of stress. That conditional mechanism that arose from the repetition of the stressful situation will entertain itself each time the person stutters or in other words, each time the recorded answer is released after the detection of a small level of stress and that’s why the fear of stuttering will lead to stuttering because it will bring the needed stress that will trigger the recorded answer. To make the verification, a type II should stutter alone when inoculated the hormone of stress.
Regarding type I stuttering, the shortage is due to a deficit in the maturation of the brain. As it’s the origin of the energy we use, it should be completely similar to developmental stuttering. If their brain keeps on maturing, their stuttering should disappear with no intervention as there is no physiological answer recorded and much less entertained.
Type I and developmental stuttering should be fluctuating scarcely while type II should fluctuate from fluidity to muteness because it is possible to prevent the release of the answer by avoiding the deployment of the needed stress or once released, it’s possible to mitigate it with some techniques, products… or worsen it if there is an added stress.
All that help to fight stress will reduce the intensity of type II stuttering because the answer will be mitigated and the direct debit will take less energy leaving more to non vitals.
Consequences
What can be the consequences of such a theory?
-As non vitals and vital functions are using the same energy, the more a kid grow fast the less the maturation of the speech should be quick. Also, as boys grow faster than girls between 2 and 3, girls should be maturing speech earlier than boys because they should be using that precious resource to prepare themselves for a more physical life.
-Type II stutterers should have an average size higher than the rest of the population
- Type II stuttering should disappear after a certain time without stuttering
- Type I should not have stuttering as their unique problem. They should be frequently facing co morbidity.
-There is no genetically influence in type II and nothing is defective in the speech mechanism.
- In situation of stress, even for non stutterers, there should be more activity within the right hemisphere.
- The difference between boys and girls in the proportion of stutterer should be greater within type II than in type I.
- The reason why people don’t stutter when they sing is because the production of sound is vital from the point of view of the nature so well that it’s managed by the right hemisphere.
- Once the recorded answer is deactivated, type II will speak as if he never stuttered
-The difference between men and women in the number of stuttering people should come from the fact that, for the same weight and height, men use more energy to secure the operation of their vital functions even without stress: they have more incompressible expenses. So they have less idle energy left for non vital functions. Then a relatively low level of stress will make a man energy less while a woman of same weight and height who has more idle energy can, under that same level of stress, use part of it to secure the operation of her36 vital ones while having enough for speech and other social functions. One of the corollaries of this is that the more a person is small, the easier for him/her to talk even in stressful situations and the relative number of type II stutterers among small people should be much less than in general (maybe nature is made for men and society for women).
- Regarding type II, a therapy can try to deactivate the recorded answer, prevent its release or mitigate it once released.
How to diagnose stuttering?
When a kid is having tough times to talk, that can be considered as part of the normal process of speech maturation. But if there is tension in his surroundings (divorce, family problems, intimidation, new sibling, move…), the most alarming element should be fluctuations in the speech, mainly when his fluidity depends on the interlocutor. The more the growth is faster, the less one should worry about the speech mainly if the kid is a boy.
People can wonder how come stuttering is due to lack of energy to produce speech while stutterers are able to repeat indefinitely the syllable without interruption. If it’s just a matter of energy why don’t they just use the energy for repetition to further their speech?
That would be a great remark to invalidate my attempt of theory except if you consider that syllable repetition doesn’t only exist with stutterers. Almost in all cultures, the first words taught to kids are one syllable or reiterated syllables. Also, in some cultures like in France, there is a tradition of reiterating the same syllable as nickname. This is because when uttering a syllable, one produces a mechanism that will be still available for the next if it is the same syllable. Then the energy spent to produce the second syllable is much less than what was spent to produce the first one in case of repeated syllable. From that moment, no type II should face difficulties to utter the second syllable of a word having two identical syllables once the first is done.
It’s also noticed that stuttering gets milder when one becomes old. It will be interesting to know the changes that happen at that time. My hypothesis is that at that age, despite the recorded answer which still operates, there is more idle energy coming from the decrease in muscle tension and no doubt different other energy savings or budget cuts. Maybe old age is ENERGY austerity plan in the purpose to promote brain at the expense of muscle.

No doubt human being started to talk when they did their best to reduce the level of stress in their everyday life. But speaking is not a gift from the nature. It’s a renewable subsidy as long as Nature doesn’t need the raw material of it. ]]> Stuttering Forum ousmane http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8721 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8720&goto=newpost Thu, 03 May 2012 18:41:19 GMT Hi.
I'm 57 years old, nearly 58.
I'm English, but live in Aberdeen, Scotland.
Aberdonian by marriage.
Work as an engineer in the Oil & Gas industry.

I've stammered as long as I can remember.
Apparently, it started after I caught whooping cough as a kid.
I hate the word stutter, much prefer stammer.

Early memories:
Moderate stammer.
Thought a lot of people looked down on me.
Being caned in junior school because I didn't (couldn't) answer the teacher's question.
Being laughed at by all the adults in a shop because I stammered.
Being bullied at school at times when I tried to speak.
Lots of bullies, not too many friends at school.
Bit of a loner at school, but stuck in.
Lots of friends, not too many bullies where I lived.
Over protective mother.
Started speach therapy.

Later memories:
Mild to moderate stammer.
Thought it held me back from doing a lot of things.
OK face to face with someone I knew.
Moderate stammering face to face with someone I didn't know.
Major phobia about using a phone.
Usually OK if someone phoned me.
Moderate stammering if I phoned someone.
Loads of people hung up before I could speak.
Ran local footbal teams so had to use phone.
Only had girlfriends that I already knew or that I met when I was drunk.
Dumped by girls because I didn't chat enough.
Dumped girls because they laughed at me.
Tried hypnotherapy, but I'm sure it was a 'con'.

More recent memories:
Mild to moderate stammer.
Pushed myself into doing things I didn't want to.
Best Man at a friend's wedding, very nervous but managed not too bad.
Do loads of presentations in / for work.
First ones were very nervous, but managed not too bad.
Later ones were a lot more relaxed, but still stammered.
Introducing myself at a presentation is usually ok.
Loads of meetings in / for work, some chaired by me, some not.
Introducing myself at my meetings is usually ok.
Introducing myself at other meetings is absolute hell.
Still have a phobia about using a phone
Much prefer people to phone me.
Especially someone I don't know (well).
Sometime I e-mail them with a little white lie: 'tried to call but no answer, please call me back'.
Seem to be meeting a lot more people with a stammer recently.
It always embarrasses me, unless I stammer first.
Couldn't watch the King's Speech for the same reason.
I always joke about my stammer.
Last time I was press-ganged into making a presentation, I started 'I'd like to thank such and such for giving me the chance to do my own version of the King's Speech'.

Sorry about the 'War & Peace'.
I've felt so low about myself in the past.
For me, I had to accept that I would always stammer, but so what.
Once I had that outlook, things were fine.

Nice to meet you all,
PaulJ. ]]> Introduce Yourself PaulJ http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8720 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8719&goto=newpost Thu, 03 May 2012 13:10:15 GMT im from seattle im from seattle ]]> Introduce Yourself endlessboy http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8719 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8717&goto=newpost Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:52:42 GMT Hello, My son is 18, and I was wondering if he can get any college scholarship money for next fall. Are there any groups willing to help out these young people? Loving Mom Hello,
My son is 18, and I was wondering if he can get any college scholarship money for next fall. Are there any groups willing to help out these young people?

Loving Mom ]]> Introduce Yourself drummerbud http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8717 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8714&goto=newpost Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:14:01 GMT I am from China,I stuttered when I was teenage ,inflenced by my classmate.I suffered from it for 20 years.now I work as an engineer . I feel better than before. Daily conversation is no more a trouble for me.but in case of public place like conference,still can feel pressure to open my mouth. I... I am from China,I stuttered when I was teenage ,inflenced by my classmate.I suffered from it for 20 years.now I work as an engineer . I feel better than before. Daily conversation is no more a trouble for me.but in case of public place like conference,still can feel pressure to open my mouth.
I hope I can make some friends to share the experience here ]]> Introduce Yourself Carl http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8714 http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8713&goto=newpost Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:33:42 GMT My name is Francis and I've been stuttering since I got to the 4th grade. I'm a senior now in high school and I'm almost graduating. We moved here in Illinois about 4 years ago from the Philippines and it's been hard for me coz I gotta start all over again in making friends. Now I'm getting kinda nervous about goin to college coz I know u will have to be more independent and that means I will have to talk mor and I also heard that u also need to take speech classes in college. so anyways, this stuttering that I do is mostly blocks and I have the hardest time saying words with a letter P or T on it and words that starts with a vowel. Just gotta keep working on it and live through courage and strength. ]]> Introduce Yourself stutteringkid http://StutteringForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8713